Uniden r7 getting auto lockout soon?

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So trying to convince the wife to get an r7 vs the redline ex due to having better range. While looking at amazon both the description in the header and body claim god auto lockouts. Could this be a typo or maybe the feature is on the way!
 

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Don't hold your breath. No one seems to know. Uniden isn't saying.
Plenty of talk about that on here. Do a search for it.
You'll have to try another angle to slip it by the Wife ! ;)
 

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So trying to convince the wife to get an r7 vs the redline ex due to having better range. While looking at amazon both the description in the header and body claim god auto lockouts. Could this be a typo or maybe the feature is on the way!

I believe coming to a Uniden R7 in 2022 or 2023 depending on when the Escort Patent expires! But the R7 is a great detector and Auto Lockouts should not hold one back, besides the only AutoLocks so far that are truly safe are on a V1 using JBV1! There are multiple examples of people using it on Escort that ended up getting K band speeding tickets due to how it is implemented IE both frequency and location are not tight enough plus to broad to safely avoid police radar.

Hopefully when Uniden can finally add this feature they do a better job then Escort did!
 

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the only AutoLocks so far that are truly safe are on a V1 using JBV1!
For a good while before JBV1 even existed, V1Driver has been using sophisticated algorithms to intelligently narrow automatic lockouts to the narrowest practicable range. Why are they not truly safe?
 

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For a good while before JBV1 even existed, V1Driver has been using sophisticated algorithms to intelligently narrow automatic lockouts to the narrowest practicable range. Why are they not truly safe?

Because from my understanding they are not as tight as JBV1 in all three dimensions: frequency, source location, signal strength IE V1Driver good solution JBV1 better safer solution (with my personal opinion being that which ever AutoLock system is currently the safest gets rated as truly safe). If something comes out safer then JBV1 currently is then that will be the new truly safe and JBV1 would become a good solution.

In other words, my current opinion is that JBV1 is currently the standard to which Auto Lockouts are measured by.
 

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For a good while before JBV1 even existed, V1Driver has been using sophisticated algorithms to intelligently narrow automatic lockouts to the narrowest practicable range. Why are they not truly safe?
Because from my understanding they are not as tight as JBV1 in all three dimensions: frequency, source location, signal strength
I'd like to hear more about this! (maybe in another thread)
 

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I'd like to hear more about this! (maybe in another thread)
V1Driver actually sets the frequency width separately for each lockout automatically making it as narrow as possible and refining the setting as more experience is obtained. This requires accumulating a lot of data points and performing statistical calculations on them, both requiring memory and processor resources not practical in a stand alone RD at this time.
 

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I don't comment on other apps anymore, but I'll explain how JBV1 does lockouts:

1) They're really tight to begin with (+/- 8 MHz by default *)
2) Auto frequency drift compensation
3) Auto punch through when signal is suddenly stronger than "normal" **
4) Auto punch through on analysis of signal orientation, strength, and ramp relative to lockout location **
5) Only one signal at a time may use any one lockout, with user-selectable algorithms for conflict resolution **

* Adjustable
** Can be disabled
 

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Because from my understanding they are not as tight as JBV1 in all three dimensions: frequency, source location, signal strength
I think you need to revisit your understanding. @mswlogo has set up V1Driver so you can define the tolerances as wide or narrow as you like. But generally it’s best to leave it alone, as it starts wider (still narrower than Escort, et al) and automatically narrows all tolerances over time with some really nice algorithms for every point along the map that you receive that signal. The more times you drive past it, the more dialed in it gets. It works very well and is very refined, giving you the best of both worlds: safe lockouts that are smart enough to tighten as much as possible without the subjecting you go alerts because it’s too manual or over aggressive.
 

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Both app methods are clearly better than the current R7 manual lockout widths of +/-35 MHz and 600 feet as reported.
I'd hope for improvements in that vein from Uniden; but with only 1,750 available lockout spots, that might not be feasible.

Without the processing power that the apps have available as well as the number of options the apps have, I think any stand-alone detector might be at a disadvantage.
 
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To be clear, there’s no knock against JBV1. But to say that it is the safest, much less the only safe option, isn’t quite right. And JBV1 is only available on Android, while V1Driver is available on both android and iOS. Scaring off iOS users by claiming the safest or only safe option is limited to Android isn’t necessary, either.
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Both app methods are clearly better than the current R7 manual lockout widths of +/-35 MHz and 600 feet as reported.
100%
 

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I sincerely hope Uniden can get the R7 down to at least +/- 10mhz in a future update, the 8mhz that JBV1 uses is PLENTY wide. After finally getting a reading on the K Band Raptor, all my lockouts in the town I live in and work are now rendered useless because their frequencies fall within that range of the R7 default. So before auto-lockout is even feasable for me (or damn near everyone facing K band enforcement) the range MUST be narrowed!!!!
 

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I read the thread title and was thinking 'here it goes...' and wow nice input guys and gals.
 

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No one has ever said Auto Lockouts would come to the R3. The only unit capable is the R7.
 

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I sincerely hope Uniden can get the R7 down to at least +/- 10mhz in a future update, the 8mhz that JBV1 uses is PLENTY wide. After finally getting a reading on the K Band Raptor, all my lockouts in the town I live in and work are now rendered useless because their frequencies fall within that range of the R7 default. So before auto-lockout is even feasable for me (or damn near everyone facing K band enforcement) the range MUST be narrowed!!!!
I've been asking for it to be user defineable since the R3 via the advanced settings in 5MHz increments (really 10, i.e. +/-5MHz, +/10MHz, +-15MHz, etc). I think that would strike the balance between advance user adjustability and mass market appeal
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So trying to convince the wife to get an r7 vs the redline ex due to having better range. While looking at amazon both the description in the header and body claim god auto lockouts. Could this be a typo or maybe the feature is on the way!
Uniden said it would get them, but they didn't say when. Presumably when the Escort patent expires (there's differing opinions on when that is), it should be an easy add.
 
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I've been asking for it to be user defineable since the R3 via the advanced settings in 5MHz increments (really 10, i.e. +/-5MHz, +/10MHz, +-15MHz, etc). I think that would strike the balance between advance user adjustability and mass market appeal
That would be PERFECT, hopefully the R7 hardware supports it!!!!
 

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If it's the patent holding it back, why can't Uniden just say, the feature will be available once the patent issue is resolved? They could give a patent exp date, if they wanted, or not.. At least everyone would have a general idea...

What I don't get is that Uniden seems to enjoy the leak, but not deliver. Really, why tell their reporting sources it's going to get the feature, if they can't deliver? If they thought they could, then later found they couldn't for whatever reason.. they should do another leak and say because XZY, we can't add the feature currently..

When they're leaking stuff like.. the feature is already baked into the FW, it just needs to be turned on, it sounds like it's going to happen any day.

For me, better BSM filtering is way more important than auto lockouts.

K Block has been excellent till today for BSM.. I don't know what happened but dang Chrysler/Fiat got me good with 24.16x with a few Mazda's in the lower range thrown in. It was like when K block wasn't around... I can't imagine what it would have been like if I had to deal with the BSM in the K block range too.
 

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