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You can't just add proper MRCD detection with firmware. Anyway, that's presently a non-issue where most people live and drive.
The V1 can already detect MRCD but the filters must be disabled (which makes it useless due to falsing). Given that it has the ability to do so already, I would assume it could be possible. Yea presently a non-issue for some people but when that changes wouldn't it be nice to be able to remote update? Sending a unit in for a simple firmware update that doesn't require new hardware is an outdated way of doing something. Not to mention an added expense on the end user.
 
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I share the sentiment.
We've talked about the filtering processes of the Radenso and Escort units. We've talked about the benefits of app use with V1s.

Uniden announced the R7 and in 2019 I was hoping for something more advanced and "smart" for $600.
What I see instead is what I feel is a consumer level appliance that might be designed to be replaced in 2-3 years. I see a device that was hurriedly designed and that clearly has QC issues still.
I see a device that isn't as good as advertised. Over-hyped, but does that one trick of great range really well.

As mentioned by the Radenso guys, we are settling for junk these days.

For $600 I'd like to see it do everything a V1 or Escort can do and add in some of the Radenso style filtering we've heard about or experienced.
I'd like to see great build quality and fewer failures after a mere 3 months. (3 cases of loose screws and at least one bad power supply so far out of possibly 60-100 units from regular members here)
It's not like Uniden is a start-up company!


Have you tried Xanax or something like that? You don't even own an R7, but it seems to bother you to no end that some of us are very happy with it. Why is it so threatening to V1 users in particular? You have the V1 and any app you want to use. Be happy with that option. Lots of options are great for all of us. Please allow us to be happy with our decisions. I don't feel like mine is "junk", and don't feel like it has been "over-hyped". How does that affect you as a V1 user? Why were you hoping for something "more advanced" and "smart" when you already have the best RD setup in your opinion? This all seems kind of silly. As I've stated before, I hope MV comes out with the most advanced RD ever. At least then, I think this silliness and what I perceive as insecurity would end.
 

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Have you tried Xanax or something like that? You don't even own an R7, but it seems to bother you to no end that some of us are very happy with it. Why is it so threatening to V1 users in particular? You have the V1 and any app you want to use. Be happy with that option. Lots of options are great for all of us. Please allow us to be happy with our decisions. I don't feel like mine is "junk", and don't feel like it has been "over-hyped". How does that affect you as a V1 user? Why were you hoping for something "more advanced" and "smart" when you already have the best RD setup in your opinion? This all seems kind of silly. As I've stated before, I hope MV comes out with the most advanced RD ever. At least then, I think this silliness and what I perceive as insecurity would end.
We are in a Valentine 1 forum where the OP brought up the comparison of the R7 and the V1... We are having a discussion of the two.

I had been interested in trying out the R7 when it was first announced in January. (I thought I had explained this to you previously)
I've outlined why I feel the way I do about the Unidens and if anyone wants to actually discuss the actual points instead of trying to generalize and categorize me, I'm all ears and we can have a beneficial talk about it all and both come away from it with more info.
I have seen issues with some of Uniden's decisions which I have elaborated on. I'm not making random one-liner negative comments.

One of the Radenso guys said ALL of the detectors we have available are "junk". (in a particular context) That includes most likely the detector I currently use as well. The point was that we are settling for less than we possibly should. I didn't take that personally.

Two of my reasons for feeling that it's over-hyped are:
RDD immunity printed on the box but not yet true
2,000 lockouts that turns out to be 1,750

I'd like to see true progress in all brands for our benefit.

What is wrong with people bringing up critically thought out points about the devices we are all here to talk about? The Xanax comment seems rather childish. We are having a polite discussion here. No-one is angry, or bothered.

If you like your choice of detectors, Enjoy it. One of these days we might both be touting the newest thing to come along and what we own and use now should not be making enemies of us all.
 
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No app-less RD can show 4 frequencies at once.
Stinger?

I mean, I think the proper answer is no windshield mount detector currently does show 4 frequencies at once. There’s no reason, say, an R7 or a Max360 couldn’t do so. They just choose not to because they think it’s a better design to have larger characters in the readout. Though for some reason I seem to recall having seen promotional Escort materials showing one of their detectors providing multiple frequencies. I don’t own one so can’t but sure, and I know my WB Magnum STi doesn’t.
 

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We are in a Valentine 1 forum where the OP brought up the comparison of the R7 and the V1... We are having a discussion of the two.
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Indeed you are right! I was thinking I was still and the Uniden forum this Tapatalk app is lacking in showing many details unless you dig for it, I should have used better etiquette sorry about that!
 

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Have you tried Xanax or something like that? You don't even own an R7, but it seems to bother you to no end that some of us are very happy with it. Why is it so threatening to V1 users in particular? You have the V1 and any app you want to use. Be happy with that option. Lots of options are great for all of us. Please allow us to be happy with our decisions. I don't feel like mine is "junk", and don't feel like it has been "over-hyped". How does that affect you as a V1 user? Why were you hoping for something "more advanced" and "smart" when you already have the best RD setup in your opinion? This all seems kind of silly. As I've stated before, I hope MV comes out with the most advanced RD ever. At least then, I think this silliness and what I perceive as insecurity would end.
No chap, judging by the infestation of trolls on this forum, the V1 is very threatening to Uniden users in particular.
You do realise you are on a V1 forum don't you.
How many V1 zombies do you see on your forum bagging your plastic toy?
We bag it in here.
 

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No chap, judging by the infestation of trolls on this forum, the V1 is very threatening to Uniden users in particular.
You do realise you are on a V1 forum don't you.
How many V1 zombies do you see on your forum bagging your plastic toy?
We bag it in here.

There are actually plenty, chap. I think some of them spend more time in the Uniden forum than they do here. The person I addressed is one of them.
 

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Seriously @JmsWms, All,
There's no need for this. It's possible that you found a topic that you were interested in reading and had something you wanted to say just like any of us. As long as we can keep it civil and pleasant towards each other, there's no big need for segregation. Predjudice causes segregation.

When I've ended up in a Uniden forum topic and said whatever I've said, I've not criticized those that use the detectors. I've said something about the detectors themselves unless answering someone else's comments. Prove me wrong on this and I'll apologize. :)

We can't have thin skin in a discussion of opposing viewpoints. If there are those that don't want to hear at all when others disagree with them, this is probably not the place to be. Opposing viewpoints can be a learning experience all around, but we have to be accurate.

I've used this kind of analogy before: (because it's relatively safe given the mounting hardware involved)
If I made comments to a Cobra owner that Cobra's are meant to point to the sky because I've seen so many that way; It would be appropriate for that person to try and correct that misconception before we can move on with a discussion. That's step one and clarifying that can bridge the gap in understanding.

Does that make that Cobra owner "defensive", a "Cobra apologist", or "one of those people"?
No, it's just not fair to anyone to build your case on incorrect info and then criticize and not listen to that person's info. Let's get our facts straight first before we start arguing the facts we think we have.

It's really hard to take anyone seriously that continues to spout incorrect "facts" and then argues their point, get's angry, starts name calling, etc. and it's even harder to take them seriously when they spout the same stuff the next day, and they day after that, and so on. An unwillingness to listen to others is no-one else's problem.


A month from now we all might be talking about the newest Radenso product and some will be pointing out how this thing or that thing doesn't work the same as their R7 and others will be explaining their thoughts and life will continue at RDF.
You might even find yourself considering this new product (that's all the rage) and asking questions and stating your thoughts. If the Radenso people started giving you a hard time about it all and called you names; imagine how silly you would think it all is.

People can get mad at each other and make jokes and be all around jerks or we can be respectful to each other and realize that all of us encounter our own set of situations and countermeasure needs.
 

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Seriously @JmsWms, All,
There's no need for this. It's possible that you found a topic that you were interested in reading and had something you wanted to say just like any of us. As long as we can keep it civil and pleasant towards each other, there's no big need for segregation. Predjudice causes segregation.

When I've ended up in a Uniden forum topic and said whatever I've said, I've not criticized those that use the detectors. I've said something about the detectors themselves unless answering someone else's comments. Prove me wrong on this and I'll apologize. :)

We can't have thin skin in a discussion of opposing viewpoints. If there are those that don't want to hear at all when others disagree with them, this is probably not the place to be. Opposing viewpoints can be a learning experience all around, but we have to be accurate.

It's really hard to take anyone seriously that continues to spout incorrect "facts" and then argues their point, get's angry, starts name calling, etc. and it's even harder to take them seriously when they spout the same stuff the next day, and they day after that, and so on. An unwillingness to listen to others is no-one else's problem.


A month from now we all might be talking about the newest Radenso product and some will be pointing out how this thing or that thing doesn't work the same as their R7 and others will be explaining their thoughts and life will continue at RDF.
You might even find yourself considering this new product (that's all the rage) and asking questions and stating your thoughts. If the Radenso people started giving you a hard time about it all and called you names; imagine how silly you would think it all is.

People can get mad at each other and make jokes and be all around jerks or we can be respectful to each other and realize that all of us encounter our own set of situations and countermeasure needs.


Just out of curiosity, do you have any wise advice for your fellow V1 user, Lou G, and his post above? Do you think that response was appropriate? I don't know why you directed all that sage advice toward me. I usually keep my mouth shut. It was only after your Uniden bashing in this thread that I decided to speak up. You also never answered ANY of my questions. Why do the V1 users seem to feel so threatened by another option? I LIKE options. Please don't pretend that you like to run down the 'unnamed detector' every chance you get. You and I both now better. I have never bad-mouthed the V1 or any of the third party apps for it. I don't feel the need. Some people love it, and I respect that. You, on the other hand, tend to bad mouth, and then come back after someone calls you on it and try to preach to us on how we need to be respectful of each other. Anyway, this is WAY off topic, and I apologize to the moderators and readers who don't want to read this crap. Please delete if necessary.
 

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The V1 is not refined, it's apps are.
The apps are simply doing what V1 is not capable of.
No chap, judging by the infestation of trolls on this forum, the V1 is very threatening to Uniden users in particular.
You do realise you are on a V1 forum don't you.
How many V1 zombies do you see on your forum bagging your plastic toy?
We bag it in here.
The difference being a person can still buy a
plastic toy.
Just out of curiosity, do you have any wise advice for your fellow V1 user, Lou G, and his post above? Do you think that response was appropriate? I don't know why you directed all that sage advice toward me. I usually keep my mouth shut. It was only after your Uniden bashing in this thread that I decided to speak up. You also never answered ANY of my questions. Why do the V1 users seem to feel so threatened by another option? I LIKE options. Please don't pretend that you like to run down the 'unnamed detector' every chance you get. You and I both now better. I have never bad-mouthed the V1 or any of the third party apps for it. I don't feel the need. Some people love it, and I respect that. You, on the other hand, tend to bad mouth, and then come back after someone calls you on it and try to preach to us on how we need to be respectful of each other. Anyway, this is WAY off topic, and I apologize to the moderators and readers who don't want to read this crap. Please delete if necessary.
Can you guys hold on for a few minutes? I need to make some popcorn and grab a beer.
 
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Just out of curiosity, do you have any wise advice for your fellow V1 user, Lou G, and his post above? Do you think that response was appropriate? I don't know why you directed all that sage advice toward me. I usually keep my mouth shut.
I did address my above message to anyone else that felt it might apply and was willing to listen.

It was only after your Uniden bashing in this thread that I decided to speak up.
The idea that you think that it was "bashing" might be part of the issue here. It was directed at a product that we are talking about; Not towards you as a person at all. If it makes you mad, that was not the intent. What did I say that is absolutely incorrect?

You also never answered ANY of my questions.
Why do the V1 users seem to feel so threatened by another option?
Strawman arguments. It's a rhetorical question in an attempt to make your point.
We aren't going to answer something that we fundamentally disagree with the premise of. I don't think V1 users are threatened by other options. Who's beating that particular drum? What proof do you personally have that V1 users are "threatened"?

If I said to you, "Why do R7 users seem so easily offended that others don't see it as the greatest thing ever?" You might first consider that to be an accusation rather than a question. Clearly not all R7 users are offended. If you then tried to fight a battle as to "Why" they are offended, you would be arguing a falsifiable idea and building concepts on a weak foundation.

Generalizations of an entire group are bad form.

I LIKE options. Please don't pretend that you like to run down the 'unnamed detector' every chance you get. You and I both now better.
Opinion and/or perspective. There are plenty of Uniden threads I've read and not said a single word in.
Also, have you ever jumped into a conversation in the middle and later realized that you missed the important parts and look stupid? Some of these discussions that some of you are upset about are just like that. You haven't followed the entire conversation that sometimes spans multiple threads.

I have never bad-mouthed the V1 or any of the third party apps for it. I don't feel the need. Some people love it, and I respect that.
Great! If you had an understanding of the apps and saw a flaw that others in a particular thread were seeming unaware of about their app use, would you bring it up, or let it go?

You, on the other hand, tend to bad mouth, and then come back after someone calls you on it and try to preach to us on how we need to be respectful of each other. Anyway, this is WAY off topic, and I apologize to the moderators and readers who don't want to read this crap. Please delete if necessary.
There is a difference between "bad-mouthing" emotionally and stating an opposing viewpoint with reasoning. It's not emotional. :)
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The difference being a person can still buy a
plastic toy.
You got us there at the moment! :)
 
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Controversy always raises ratings....

But there's good controversy where all respect each other, then there's bad where the topic gets off the items and goes personal when few of us actually even know each other.

One of the most successful shows has a line in the theme song "where everybody knows your name".
Everyone watched it because they became one of the characters and liked what they felt.

Family attracts, we all need it.

But bad relation attracts too just like a good fight, but it never lasts and while thrilling, it's not fun unless you're here for the wrong reason.

Regardless, vendors don't need it, it doesn't furthur their cause and so they bug out, as well as do most serious listeners.

Forums are social as much as they are informational.

There's a few out here that actually give a damn
 

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The difference being a person can still buy a
plastic toy.
Fortunately, it seems. But Uniden are a bit slow with the sick one
Just out of curiosity, do you have any wise advice for your fellow V1 user, Lou G, and his post above? Do you think that response was appropriate? I don't know why you directed all that sage advice toward me. I usually keep my mouth shut.
My post was in no way abusing you personally. The fact that you feel threatened shows an unnatural attachment to the inanimate object that I did criticise.
Anyway, it seems you are not happy here.
Bye.
 

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Fortunately, it seems. But Uniden are a bit slow with the sick one

My post was in no way abusing you personally. The fact that you feel threatened shows an unnatural attachment to the inanimate object that I did criticise.
Anyway, it seems you are not happy here.
Bye.
Not "sick"
More often than not it's just a simple case of user hypochondria.
 
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The V1 is not refined, it's apps are.
The V1 itself has been refined for many years, probably the most so out of any current offerings. Adding the open API simply allows the apps to extend its functionality in whatever manner is desired. It was a genius move, even though a handful of people like you have taken up a vendetta against it. The continual brand bashing and instigating gets tiresome.
 

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The V1 itself has been refined for many years, probably the most so out of any current offerings. Adding the open API simply allows the apps to extend its functionality in whatever manner is desired. It was a genius move, even though a handful of people like you have taken up a vendetta against it. The continual brand bashing and instigating gets tiresome.
The V1 itself has been refined for many years, probably the most so out of any current offerings. Adding the open API simply allows the apps to extend its functionality in whatever manner is desired. It was a genius move, even though a handful of people like you have taken up a vendetta against it. The continual brand bashing and instigating gets tiresome.
If you're going to quote me you might want to include my entire post rather than lift one sentence.

What I wrote:
"The V1 is not refined, it's apps are.
The apps are simply performing all the functions the V1 is not capable of doing on it's own.
Not a slam on V1...just a fact".
 

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I quoted the important part, the opening sentence, where you said the V1 is not refined. You can continue your relentless campaign of brand bashing unabated, apparently, but you can’t expect that no one will call you out when you’re wrong.
 

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The R7 the v1...they have their place...all around window mount the R7 is fantastic all in one detector..the V1 with an app continues in my opinion to give better situational awareness. I love them both. I run them both.. And at least we got away from the v1 coming in July..
 

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The R7 the v1...they have their place...all around window mount the R7 is fantastic all in one detector..the V1 with an app continues in my opinion to give better situational awareness. I love them both. I run them both.. And at least we got away from the v1 coming in July..
Agreed, I love my V1, I totally trust it!
No tickets the years I've used it except one LIDAR warning bc she was super close when she lit me up!
Definitely impressive to friends with the 7 inch nexus in play!

I have a R7 on the way.

If I can get it quiet enough, I'll pass it to my wife to buy another to relief her of her passport 360 which also Btw has been very trustworthy... But you better be paying attention! You get enough warning, but "just" enough in many cases!

It's like Christmas, gotta have new toys every so often.
Guess I'm bored!

The birth of Yav1 and the following apps breathed new life into its usefulness and abilities thx to open source code Mike so graciously made avaliable.

Good to see you're still kickin Rut!
 

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