V1 In Cali vs R7

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I had a V1 and just got the Uniden R7, for my use case I really only need to run Ka band in my area(understand there is a slight risk here)

I’m really liking my previous V1 In terms of arrow reliability (it seems spot on compared to the R7 that dances around a little bit)

Anyone else running a Ka only setup ? Did you decide to stay with the V1? How have your experiences with the arrows compare ?


For those that aren’t in Ca, if Ka was the only legit source in our world, would you stay with the V1?

How do you think the arrows on the other devices compare to the V1?

Can we still call V1 the golden child of arrows and is the max360 any better with locating the source ?
 
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The Cobrascorts have improved, but yes in general it seems like the V1, with its many years of refinement, remains the gold standard for arrows. It’s still not perfect, as I can attest. But from what I’ve heard the R7 isn’t too bad, either. With so much extra sensitivity it makes sense that it can get more easily confused about directionality due to reflections and such. It’s a little like latch times, where too short can be accurate but cause confusion or annoyance in a human operator but too long and the quality and accuracy of the information it’s relaying is reduced. Everyone wants it to be in the sweet spot, but that spot isn’t always the same.
 

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I had a V1 and just got the Uniden R7, for my use case I really only need to run Ka band in my area(understand there is a slight risk here)

I’m really liking my previous V1 In terms of arrow reliability (it seems spot on compared to the R7 that dances around a little bit)

Anyone else running a Ka only setup ? Did you decide to stay with the V1? How have your experiences with the arrows compared ?


For those that aren’t in Ca, if Ka was the only legit source in our world, would you stay with the V1?

How do you think the arrows on the other devices compare to the V1?

Can we still call V1 the golden child of arrows and is the max360 any better with locating the source ?
I live in an area with just ka with stationary red light cams. I loved my V1 and got a cheetah for the stationary cams. (Even though I preferred an all in one unit). Because at the time the V1 was the only detector with arrows. With being said. I would be still running the V1 if threats didn’t change for me

However. Since the r7 came out. I would be definitely enticed to get it because it has more features than the V1

When the max 360 first came out. I was looking to buy it but didn’t want to spend $800-900 cnd.

The V1 have had its entire life time to get the arrows to where they are so no surprised that it’s way more refined than other arrow detectors.


Though the V1 is old. Mike was definitely thinking hard when he conceived it. I love a lot of the featured on the V1 today compared to other detectors. (Dual volume/1 press mute control), superior laser detection). V1 is simple and very effective. I wish my city speed enforcement would revert to what it was
 

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I live in an area with just ka with stationary red light cams. I loved my V1 and got a cheetah for the stationary cams. (Even though I preferred an all in one unit). Because at the time the V1 was the only detector with arrows. With being said. I would be still running the V1 if threats didn’t change for me

However. Since the r7 came out. I would be definitely enticed to get it because it has more features than the V1

When the max 360 first came out. I was looking to buy it but didn’t want to spend $800-900 cnd.

The V1 have had its entire life time to get the arrows to where they are so no surprised that it’s way more refined than other arrow detectors.


Though the V1 is old. Mike was definitely thinking hard when he conceived it. I love a lot of the featured on the V1 today compared to other detectors. (Dual volume/1 press mute control), superior laser detection). V1 is simple and very effective. I wish my city speed enforcement would revert to what it was
Yeah I agree. The build quality also seems much better on the V1 (or at least the materials used)


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I'm very comfortable with my 360c arrows. Its not once let me down in spite of claims that its inaccurate. I cant speak for the others but mine seems to be spot on. I live in Duluth,Ga., just north of ATL, and pretty much only see KA band. I enjoy finding the Leo in my hood and my arrows are always correct-So far-
 

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I had a V1 and just got the Uniden R7, for my use case I really only need to run Ka band in my area(understand there is a slight risk here)

I’m really liking my previous V1 In terms of arrow reliability (it seems spot on compared to the R7 that dances around a little bit)

Anyone else running a Ka only setup ? Did you decide to stay with the V1? How have your experiences with the arrows compare ?


For those that aren’t in Ca, if Ka was the only legit source in our world, would you stay with the V1?

How do you think the arrows on the other devices compare to the V1?

Can we still call V1 the golden child of arrows and is the max360 any better with locating the source ?
IMO the V1's arrow behavior is still better than the Max360 and R7 on current firmware. The Max360 can have a lot of latency around the arrows changing while the R7 is in the early days of implementing their arrow behavior and I believe the raw sensitivity can make it more difficult to determine the location under certain circumstances.

I also definitely agree on the V1's build quality being industry leading. It's extremely rare to read on RDF that someone's V1 stopped working. Usually it's a 15 or 20 year old model that's many revisions behind the current hardware which doesn't appear to have any known weak points.

In the hilly, curvy, high foliage environment where I live the R7's sensitivity can be beneficial on all bands (K and Ka are used here). But when I'm on highways or in more urban environments the sensitivity along with the rear antenna can become a hinderance due to all the increased false's. Yesterday while I was commuting on the highway into the city I picked up 3 different Ka signals that were coming from the towns surrounding the highway, that were not a threat to me. Generally people think that range/sensitivity is the #1 metric for a radar detector, and while that might have been true in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's, at this point the V1 and Escort's top tier product's sensitivity that's been saving us for decades is still adequate for the majority of people and situations. Advancing that range and sensitivity further is a cool technological achievement, but it also decreases the signal to noise ratio so to speak. Now I'm finding with the R7 an increase of false's (or at least non-threats) not just with K band, but with Ka band as well.
 

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IMO the V1's arrow behavior is still better than the Max360 and R7 on current firmware. The Max360 can have a lot of latency around the arrows changing while the R7 is in the early days of implementing their arrow behavior and I believe the raw sensitivity can make it more difficult to determine the location under certain circumstances.

I also definitely agree on the V1's build quality being industry leading. It's extremely rare to read on RDF that someone's V1 stopped working. Usually it's a 15 or 20 year old model that's many revisions behind the current hardware which doesn't appear to have any known weak points.

In the hilly, curvy, high foliage environment where I live the R7's sensitivity can be beneficial on all bands (K and Ka are used here). But when I'm on highways or in more urban environments the sensitivity along with the rear antenna can become a hinderance due to all the increased false's. Yesterday while I was commuting on the highway into the city I picked up 3 different Ka signals that were coming from the towns surrounding the highway, that were not a threat to me. Generally people think that range/sensitivity is the #1 metric for a radar detector, and while that might have been true in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's, at this point the V1 and Escort's top tier product's sensitivity that's been saving us for decades is still adequate for the majority of people and situations. Advancing that range and sensitivity further is a cool technological achievement, but it also decreases the signal to noise ratio so to speak. Now I'm finding with the R7 an increase of false's (or at least non-threats) not just with K band, but with Ka band as well.
I can jive with the sentiments here, thanks for the feedback!

I might go back


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I've been running @VariableWave 's R7 for a few days and I'm blown away by it! I am also a V1 zombie and I love my V1 as good as any of you, but there is no way my V1 can compete with this R7! The range and off axis on the R7 is incredible! The arrows also work just as good as my V1. The only gripe I have with it is the screen could stand to be brighter, but I know they did this on purpose to fight screen burn out. Unlike a lot of people who make claims and don't back it up, we are testing this weekend and I'll put my V1 up against @VariableWave 's R7 on our radar/ laser course. Time permitting, we'll run them all several times against 34.7 and 35.5. I'm going to throw in a test against my "ghetto arrows" as well. My money is on my Redline/ R1 ghetto combo! We shall see! BTW, my V1 is no slouch, It gets 35.5 front and rear at 4 miles on our long distance on axis course!
 
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Can we still call V1 the golden child of arrows and is the max360 any better with locating the source ?
Never owning or using a V1...but from watching a number of video of the unit as it passes the source it does an incredible job switching right as you pass.

The 360 does have a delay before switching compared to the V1. That being said I switched back to running Spec FR1 (from FR2) with the 360 allowing me to see both signal strength front and rear at the same time and that allows you easily to determine when you have passed the source, and also allows you to get an idea of when you are getting close to parallel to it as well, even if the arrows lag a bit.

Given the V1 has no (out of the box) display to give you that additional info I mentioned above, having fast and accurate arrows was probably a very high priority for them.
 

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Never owning or using a V1...but from watching a number of video of the unit as it passes the source it does an incredible job switching right as you pass.

The 360 does have a delay before switching compared to the V1. That being said I switched back to running Spec FR1 (from FR2) with the 360 allowing me to see both signal strength front and rear at the same time and that allows you easily to determine when you have passed the source, and also allows you to get an idea of when you are getting close to parallel to it as well, even if the arrows lag a bit.

Given the V1 has no (out of the box) display to give you that additional info I mentioned above, having fast and accurate arrows was probably a very high priority for them.
Well, that and having 25+ years to hone their location detection logic. :)
 

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I ended up testing a v1 quite thoroughly a few months ago on Ka and still have not taken it off of the daily drivers windshield, even with an unopened r7 in the trunk.

It's fine for Cali minus some weird Ka false alerts and lack of frequency display. If you already have the v1, Idk if there's much of a reason to upgrade to r7 other than wanting to know frequency or because you want the longer range.
I believe off axis it's extremely sensitive on 34.7 which is a bonus too.

Do keep in mind CHP uses lidar as well so a set of ALPs or TMGs is a good idea.
 
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If you already have the v1, Idk if there's much of a reason to upgrade to r7 other than wanting to know frequency
And this is easily solved with the use of the Bluetooth dongle and phone apps, such as JBV1.
 

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Recently I used the V1 as a Spectre to find the source of some random Ka falses.
It clearly pinpointed a ute as it approached and passed me.
That's fairly effective.
 

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For those that aren’t in Ca, if Ka was the only legit source in our world, would you stay with the V1?
If there was no laser in AZ (or the states I travel), I'd have already bought one, cus it looks like a great option and you all have demonstrated such happiness with it.... I may pick one up anyway.
 
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I ended up testing a v1 quite thoroughly a few months ago on Ka and still have not taken it off of the daily drivers windshield, even with an unopened r7 in the trunk.

It's fine for Cali minus some weird Ka false alerts and lack of frequency display. If you already have the v1, Idk if there's much of a reason to upgrade to r7 other than wanting to know frequency or because you want the longer range.
I believe off axis it's extremely sensitive on 34.7 which is a bonus too.

Do keep in mind CHP uses lidar as well so a set of ALPs or TMGs is a good idea.
If you get that R7 out of the box and get it set up right, It will blow your mind, I'll guarantee it! Like I said, I've run with my V1 for years and there's no comparison between the two of them! On axis encounters my 3.872 V1 rocks! It still can't touch the R7 however. Throw in some off axis and you can forget about it! My V1 is not even in the same world! BTW, I run with Ka guard off and X and K band off on my V1.
 
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On my last road trip V1/JBV1 gave me 1600 metres warning of a cop that wasn't transmitting radar.
Yes. A radar detector that can detect a cop from 1600 meters who isn't transmitting a radar signal is certainly impressive.
It must be V1's new Extended Range Cop Car Door Decal Recognition Technology.
 
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I've been running @VariableWave 's R7 for a few days and I'm blown away by it! I am also a V1 zombie and I love my V1 as good as any of you, but there is no way my V1 can compete with this R7! The range and off axis on the R7 is incredible! The arrows also work just as good as my V1. The only gripe I have with it is the screen could stand to be brighter, but I know they did this on purpose to fight screen burn out. Unlike a lot of people who make claims and don't back it up, we are testing this weekend and I'll put my V1 up against @VariableWave 's R7 on our radar/ laser course. Time permitting, we'll run them all several times against 34.7 and 35.5. I'm going to throw in a test against my "ghetto arrows" as well. My money is on my Redline/ R1 ghetto combo! We shall see! BTW, my V1 is no slouch, It gets 35.5 front and rear at 4 miles on our long distance on axis course!
Ok cool, I have a few radar guns if you are in the Bay Area and want to run through it.


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If you get that R7 out of the box and get it set up right, It will blow your mind, I'll guarantee it! Like I said, I've run with my V1 for years and there's no comparison between the two of them! On axis encounters my 3.872 V1 rocks! It still can't touch the R7 however. Throw in some off axis and you can forget about it! My V1 is not even in the same world! BTW, I run with Ka guard off and X and K band off on my V1.
Did the story change with 3.8952?


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