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Hello everyone,

This is my experience with V1 radar detector and I'm posting this thread because of two reasond, first because no one ever wrote a review on using this devices in this part of the world. Second, it's a new experience for you guys to learn more V1 and how does it perform globally.

Here in my country Oman" we use deferent type of radars, but mainly the one which knows as "Fixed speed system" that looks like tall cylinder and it detects speed as well as traffic lights. The other one is "Mobile Radar System" which has three legs (similar to attached photos)

Mainly, the most of the radar systems in my country are based on lidar technology like poliscan and stand cylinder. And, after searching, reading and watching tons of videos in YouTube i figured out that the best radar detector that is matched to speed radar system in the country where I'm located is Valentine One, because its the best detector that detects most of the laser types that are widely use over here. However, some other radar detectors might performs better in terms of radar detection rang such as Uniden and Escort, but for laser radar detection i believe V1 is the only one which i can trust. Therefore, I placed order for V1 through ebay. Today i started my gurney with V1 looking for radars in order to write you this conclusion. But, before we go to the result let me brief you the specifications of the device:
Valentine One – EURO Radar & Laser Detector with 2019 EURO software (incl. Euro Mode + EURO X) + Junk-K Fighter + Traffic Monitor Filter (TMF) & Extended Serial Protocol (ESP). Latest Serial Number 2019, and latest European version V1.86 ESP with 2-Band POP
v3.8945 v3.8952.

Generally, the device is perfect and as i read and seen on YouTube except one thing that the detection distance is very short. In fact it does not reach even 500 feet maximum with cylinder radar and poliscan one, for K and Ku bands it's acceptable.

I have changed the location of V1 in my Chevrolet Impala 2016 windshield but no improvement. Also, i enabled and disabled the europ feature and nothing changed.

Now, the discussion is open for you guys to share your tips and ideas in order to make this beautiful thing work on this part of the world
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How much (percentage wise) actual radar ,not laser, do you think you actually encounter?
In some cases i was facing the radar and i can see it by my naked eyes from half mile distance.
 

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Is TMF On or Off? TMF Off will give you the best range but it might also give you significantly more falses if you have a lot of K band pollution.

An app connected to your phone with Bluetooth will help with that by adjusting your settings to mute threats until they reach minimum thresholds that you set.

Also, have you tried using the V1 in the vertical position on your windshield? See if that helps as well.
 

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If you are talking about picking up the lidar signal itself, no radar detector is truly as good as laser shifters to do that. An old shifter (such as LIs) will do a much better job of detecting the laser band signals at the furthest distances, especially poliscan. The shifters will of course not pick up the radar and you would have to default to a RD like the V1 for that. . . . Just a thought if laser is your main concern.
 

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Is TMF On or Off? TMF Off will give you the best range but it might also give you significantly more falses if you have a lot of K band pollution.

An app connected to your phone with Bluetooth will help with that by adjusting your settings to mute threats until they reach minimum thresholds that you set.

Also, have you tried using the V1 in the vertical position on your windshield? See if that helps as well.
Ok, based on your suggestion i have applied the following:

1- Disabled X, K, Ka to avoid band pollution disturbance in these bands.
2- Enabled TMF.

By applying this configuration the detection distance has been increased from 500 foot to 1,300 foot. But, still not what I'm expecting from V1.

Changing the orientation of the device on the windshield didn't make any deference.
 
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the source of the radar is not strong, ie those cylinders dont emit strong signal because they are designed for short range detection, that is why you are not getting good range
 

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If you are talking about picking up the lidar signal itself, no radar detector is truly as good as laser shifters to do that. An old shifter (such as LIs) will do a much better job of detecting the laser band signals at the furthest distances, especially poliscan. The shifters will of course not pick up the radar and you would have to default to a RD like the V1 for that. . . . Just a thought if laser is your main concern.
I might agree with this note, but unfortunately i don't have one for testing. If someone someday could borrow me one for testing and return it back i would be thankful :)
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the source of the radar is not strong, ie those cylinders dont emit strong signal because they are designed for short range detection, that is why you are not getting good range
This is good reason.. But, i think radar detector's manufacturers should take this in concentration, don't you think so?
 
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Ok, based on your suggestion i have applied the following:

1- Disabled X, K, Ka to avoid band pollution disturbance in these bands.
2- Enabled TMF.

By applying this configuration the detection distance has been increased from 500 foot to 1,300 foot. But, still not what I'm expecting from V1.

Changing the orientation of the device on the windshield didn't make any deference.
If you more than doubled your distance I think you have maximized performance. This is for Ku detection? Does anyone know if TMF applies to Ku detection?

I still recommend adding bluetooth with an app so you can store unlimited locations for these fixed cameras. Then you can get alerts in advance, at distances of 5,000 feet or more, if you want.
 

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I don’t have any suggestions but thanks for sharing ; It’s interesting to see what goes on in other countries
 

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Stationary autonomous radar is low powered and difficult for any detector to get decent range on. I usually see our camera vans and pole mounts before the detector alerts, so I rely more on a database warning for fixed cameras. With JBV1 you also have the option of marking the regular places they use moveable radar units.
You wrote that you've disabled X K Ka, are your radars Ku band?
 

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If you more than doubled your distance I think you have maximized performance. This is for Ku detection? Does anyone know if TMF applies to Ku detection?

I still recommend adding bluetooth with an app so you can store unlimited locations for these fixed cameras. Then you can get alerts in advance, at distances of 5,000 feet or more, if you want.
It's for laser detection and I'm not sure if TMF is applies for Ku or not.

Also, I'm ordering the Bluetooth 1connection to see what deference tje v1 could make.
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I don’t have any suggestions but thanks for sharing ; It’s interesting to see what goes on in other countries
This is the main concept of sharing this experience with you guys.
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But what does your V1 alert to most? Laser? What other radar does it detect?


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Laser and Ku bands.
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Stationary autonomous radar is low powered and difficult for any detector to get decent range on. I usually see our camera vans and pole mounts before the detector alerts, so I rely more on a database warning for fixed cameras. With JBV1 you also have the option of marking the regular places they use moveable radar units.
You wrote that you've disabled X K Ka, are your radars Ku band?
Yes, laser and Ku bands.
 
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It's for laser detection and I'm not sure if TMF is applies for Ku or not.

Also, I'm ordering the Bluetooth 1connection to see what deference tje v1 could make.
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This is the main concept of sharing this experience with you guys.
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Laser and Ku bands.
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Yes, laser and Ku bands.
I appreciate you sharing your experience in Oman, it's always interesting to learn what speed measuring threats exist in different parts of the world.

On the V1 TMF only applies to K band.

For laser a dedicated defense system like ALP is going to be the best solution. Detecting laser typically is not enough.

For Ku, I'm not sure what to suggest as it's only used in very few countries. The V1 in euro mode might be the best there. Rarely do we see manufacturers talking about Ku and at least in North America it's not a threat and is never tested.
 

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I'd check local laws on jamming systems, some countries are very draconian. I believe an offender was jailed in the UK for using laser jamming.
 

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I appreciate you sharing your experience in Oman, it's always interesting to learn what speed measuring threats exist in different parts of the world.
You are most welcome and i really wish if I could add new knowledge in this field.


On the V1 TMF only applies to K band.
But, after i disabled it i got better detection rang with laser. I don't understand the relation but this is what happened.

For laser a dedicated defense system like ALP is going to be the best solution. Detecting laser typically is not enough.
I can't pay big amount of money with something not really sure if it will work as expected on not.

For Ku, I'm not sure what to suggest as it's only used in very few countries. The V1 in euro mode might be the best there. Rarely do we see manufacturers talking about Ku and at least in North America it's not a threat and is never tested.
Ku is used widely use over here and mainly fixed in moving police cars. But, V1 doesn't give acceptable detection rang with Ku.
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I'd check local laws on jamming systems, some countries are very draconian. I believe an offender was jailed in the UK for using laser jamming.
Even in our country Oman is not allowed to use these devices, but the penalty is traffic fine ticket of $90 and removal of all devices installed in the car. That's it
 
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Hello guys,,

Is it true that i can get better performance and longer detection range if i add a custom sweeps in v1?
 

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I believe that custom sweeps only apply to Ka band which is between 33.4 and 36.0 GHz. If you have Ku stuff over there, I don't think it would help you at all.
 

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