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I hate to do these things during the day but I'm going to do a quick backup of the entire site before I push the final modifications of the theme into the production server, as well as activating the dark theme.

This will take about 15 minutes, thanks!
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All set. Forum grew by 4.5GB since 6/6/2019.

I'll be updating addons and themes during the day, will keep you all updated as these happen.
 
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I'm cleaning up some older DNS entries, if you get 404s or other issues, wait 5 minutes it should resolve itself. No need to report it, I'm aware and it's already resolved.
 

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I'm cleaning up some older DNS entries, if you get 404s or other issues, wait 5 minutes it should resolve itself. No need to report it, I'm aware and it's already resolved.
lost a perfect opportunity of replacing the 404 !message with: "do to release of V1 radar detector upgrade i.e the new GPS enabled OLED V2 the forum is currently overwhelmed with traffic"
 

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lost a perfect opportunity of replacing the 404 !message with: "do to release of V1 radar detector upgrade i.e the new GPS enabled OLED V2 the forum is currently overwhelmed with traffic"
Or an FBI warning but "This website has been Seized by Mike Valentine" :shifty:.
 

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I am working on integrating the new reactions (likes dislikes) system we'll be announcing later today, which will have a few other options instead of just "Like" and "Dislike" at the start, with automatic moderation when certain thresholds are reached, etc.

I know this will be a contentious option and we're going to be monitoring how it's used/how well it works, but we've discussed how we want to do it and will be laying out those reasons/explanations in the announcement thread later today.

Just in case you happen to notice the changes/etc before then, I wanted to get at least a quick notice out about it here. And so I have.
 

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Heyo, can you guys please dislike (using the Off-Topic option) THIS post right here, by me (xydtest4), I need to test this function. Thanks!

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So if you get hit with an "off-topic," do you lose "reaction score"?
 

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So if you get hit with an "off-topic," do you lose "reaction score"?
Yep, do you think you shouldn't? Derailing threads is an INFRACTIONABLE offense. So of course it should have an effect on reaction score.

Abusing the "Off-Topic" reaction will be punishable too, of course.

The "Reaction score" in the userbit (left side of the screen, where your avatar etc is) is probably going to be changed over to "Likes received" etc, as I still want that area to reflect the positive nature of a person, but right now while we're still figuring things out, it will probably stay as it currently is.

"Dislike" or "downvoting" because you disagree with someone is still considered a neutral reaction, though - you shouldn't lose points just because someone dislikes/disagrees with you - but if you do something that is technically against our rules (i.e. off-topic posts/derailing/trolling/etc), well, there's a reason it's a negative reaction instead of a neutral reaction, and a threshold is implemented.

We're still discussing/thinking about whether we want to make it so like when a post receives -4 "Off-Topics", if it should be temporarily hidden (put into moderator queue to require to be approved or whatever by staff), or maybe at -7 make it mod queue and -4 generate a report, still looking at ways to allow for crowd moderation...

Any thoughts/suggestions we'd love to hear.

If you guys are truly worried about people ruining your scores because of downvotes for "Off-Topic" posts, perhaps you should reconsider the quality of your posting habits - like I said, abusing the system will be a punishable offense/something which will result in you losing the ability to use negative reactions/further - this is something we're going to be keeping an eye on closely. We want to focus on the ACTUAL proper/practical use of the system right now, not the fact that it can be potentially abused (anything can, of course, and we will be watching).
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Yeah it's not going to be 100% automated initially or even ever.
If the off topic reaction is abused by an individual or a mob, we will definitely take care of it appropriately.

Especially in these initial stages, the amount of scrutiny that will go in to every off topic reaction and post will be huge.


If you're worried about getting those reactions, post better. If you're worried about those reactions because you think people would abuse them, we'll be watching and you can always report or contact staff to voice your concerns.
 

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It's possible we will make it so it doesn't affect the reaction score overall, but still can trigger crowd-sourced moderation actions (post auto reported, or auto hidden - into moderation queue), but for the moment we're going to test it this way.

I think it's very premature to start speculating on how it COULD work TERRIBLY, without seeing how its implemented and works out/how the staff handles the potential issues.

Any system can potentially have a significant downside to it - and this type of system is easily reversible - the reaction scores can easily be recalculated/etc if this idea fails, but to worry about it initially to the point where we just don't want to try it at all, I don't think that's a practical way to go forward with things.
 

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Yea, as long as there could be follow up action for people abusing it, then I'm happy. I just know how some people went slamming people's posts with dislikes to spite them.
 
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