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Hi there,
Anyone with test equipment that can answer this for me?
Do I have a defective detector because the same speed sign gives completely different frequencies for R3 and Pro-M.
Repeatable every time, no variance in the slightest.
R3 - 24.070
Pro M - 24.150
Which one do I trust more.
R3 can only pick this up on wide band yet I want to run narrow as every recommendation in my area indicates narrow.
R3 has a reputation of accuracy, I have no reference for the Pro-M.
This is with this frequency, how do they do in the rest of the K band for accuracy.
I don't want to run wide just because of detector error.
Can anyone reproduce a test like this an maybe run the 2 detectors up and down the spectrum?
Then we could forward request for firmware corrections or get my detector exchanged.
Both are brand new.
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Pro-M displays the center frequency for that band I hear. 24.150 is the center for K.

I'd expect Ka to show 33.8, 34.7, 35.5. Maybe more. :)
 

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That's not rounding.
. 080 difference? That's a whole other ballpark.
It reports all K band as 24.150
It reports all Ka band 34.7 as 34.700
It reports all Ka band 35.5 as 35.500
It reports all Ka band 33.8 as 33.800
 

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Uniden displays actual frequency, radenso displays only the center frequency of the band not the actual frequency. So the uniden is giving you the real frequencies, one of the things I like about the uniden, helps distigus a false from a real source... That said the prom doesn't false much so it's more likely to be real.
 

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It reports all K band as 24.150
It reports all Ka band 34.7 as 34.700
It reports all Ka band 35.5 as 35.500
It reports all Ka band 33.8 as 33.800
????
Now I feel duped.
Narrow, wide, snarrow, segmentation.... Why bother even having a frequency display? The whole point was to ID falses vs LEO and tuning detector accordingly....
 

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Somewhere around here is a thread where this was discussed.
If I remember correctly, this design is not easily fixed, but also new designs could have an "accurate" frequency display.

I gather that it has something to do with company transitioning or something along those lines.

I'm sure someone with the better answer will show up soon! :)
 

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Now I feel duped.
Narrow, wide, snarrow, segmentation.... Why bother even having a frequency display? The whole point was to ID falses vs LEO and tuning detector accordingly....
Tune what exactly? You may be trying to apply a universal solution to a detector specific problem.

Applying a notch filter to a Pro M doesn't provide the same level of benefits as it does for the R, given the high level of filtering performance by the Radenso.
 
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Now I feel duped.
Narrow, wide, snarrow, segmentation.... Why bother even having a frequency display? The whole point was to ID falses vs LEO and tuning detector accordingly....

I know it’s misleading and a feature that should have an accurate frequency display since it has a display. I feel the majority of pro M users felt an early irk from this but with more seat time. It becomes an after thought. We find the positives really out weigh this issue. Generally it’s quiet enough that when u do get an alert. You take it as a legit threat vs looking at the frequency to determine its a false

it’s still better than the V1 display. And ppl are still buying and using the V1 without an app. (Well obviously not buying a new V1 from V1 right now) At least with the pro M on ka. U can tell that it’s a leaky detector for 33.8 vs waiting for the V1 to display “J”. Then add in how the V1 won’t shut up for k band with 0 idea on if it’s a false or legit threat.

Truthfully, when it comes to ka alerts. I like the middle value. I interpret the display faster than an accurate reading. 34.7 is instant for me vs 34.689

Maybe it would be cool to have an option in the menu to switch between middle display and accurate display.
 

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Tune what exactly? You may be trying to apply a universal solution to a detector specific problem.

Applying a notch filter to a Pro M doesn't provide the same level of benefits as it does for the R, given the high level of filtering performance by the Radenso.
The Pro M is awesome to use. Took one drive to have it set up for quiet but strong performance, unlike the R3 which has taken over a week to dial in (plus get it set up for motorcycle).
My issue is I have a couple LEO in my city that are on my commute route, who run K band. I need to get a frequency off them to ensure both detectors can run K narrow safely. And to identify the guns so I know how sensative I should run.
Can't do that on the Pro M if it indead labels all K band at one frequency value.
R3 is my only option for hunting frequencies.
Then trust that Pro M K narrow does indeed cover the same range as R3 once I have confirmed.
Just run K wide all the time? Poor answer for enthusiasts running top end detector.
 

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The Pro M is awesome to use. Took one drive to have it set up for quiet but strong performance, unlike the R3 which has taken over a week to dial in (plus get it set up for motorcycle).
My issue is I have a couple LEO in my city that are on my commute route, who run K band. I need to get a frequency off them to ensure both detectors can run K narrow safely. And to identify the guns so I know how sensative I should run.
Can't do that on the Pro M if it indead labels all K band at one frequency value.
R3 is my only option for hunting frequencies.
Then trust that Pro M K narrow does indeed cover the same range as R3 once I have confirmed.
Just run K wide all the time? Poor answer for enthusiasts running top end detector.
I get it

The work around would be run wide once u pick up a legit police source. Switch to narrow to see if the pro M still alerts. I know it’s not the ideal way of doing things. But it would work if u didn’t have another detector
 

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Once I'm comfortable with settings on the R3 are optimized and safe for my area I can mirror those settings on the Pro M.
Running K wide is a much better option on the Pro M than the R3 due to the number of falses the Uniden finds in my city.
Disappointed with this feature on the Pro M as I am pretty thrilled about most else on it. It will be my vacation detector and Alberta detector for sure.
R3 will be my local "maximum sensitivity" for known areas and motorcycle detector.
It's all about knowing your areas and using the correct tool if you don't.
Thanks for clearing up my concerns as to why I seen such differences in frequencies.
 

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I get it

The work around would be run wide once u pick up a legit police source. Switch to narrow to see if the pro M still alerts. I know it’s not the ideal way of doing things. But it would work if u didn’t have another detector
Actually, the best workaround is to run your V1 with any app that records your "hits" and if it graphs them out for you, even better. That way, you don't need to remember what you came across, it's all recorded for you.

That being said, not having the precise frequency is an annoyance to enthusiasts but for probably 95% of the buying public, they'd rather have a detector that ignores insignificant K-band versus seeing signal frequencies for K-band door openers and BSM.
 
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Actually, the best workaround is to run your V1 with any app that records your "hits" and if it graphs them out for you, even better. That way, you don't need to remember what you came across, it's all recorded for you.

That being said, not having the precise frequency is an annoyance to enthusiasts but for probably 95% of the buying public, they'd rather have a detector that ignores insignificant K-band versus seeing signal frequencies for K-band door openers and BSM.
I was going to mention that a V1 with JBV1 would be a great data collection tool for this.
 

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I was going to mention that a V1 with JBV1 would be a great data collection tool for this.
JBV1 provides a nice graph that makes it easier to see what's outside of the narrow range.
 

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The Pro M has been assigned to my wife's vehicle for hassle free, low user interaction protection.
That's why I want to set it up for minimum false and complete protection for our area.
I won't be able to babysit it.
 

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I have to agree with the camp where the frequency display gets less and less important the more time I spent with the Pro-M.

Once the lock outs are in place, every K band gets treated as legitimate except Mazda’s, but I can see them coming before the detector starts alerting.

I remember the time before all the BSM, cross collision avoidance, speed signs, and door openers were a thing. I had the Max and the frequency display wasn’t an “must have”. I suspect it’s that way for 97% of the normal consumers that buy radar detectors today.

I have own and test pretty much every top end detector. When I go to take my car out that doesn’t have the RC-M remote installed, and I need the best protection with filtering in Edmonton with range, guess which detector I’m grabbing.

The Pro-M.
 

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I remember the time before all the BSM, cross collision avoidance, speed signs, and door openers were a thing. I had the Max and the frequency display wasn’t an “must have”. I suspect it’s that way for 97% of the normal consumers that buy radar detectors today.

The Pro-M.
I remember when k band was the police and x band was the doors. You could always ignore the x band like now for the most part.


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I remember when k band was the police and x band was the doors. You could always ignore the x band like now for the most part.


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I remember when X band was the only band.
 

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