Added a scanner to the mix, and I think it paid for itself on my first drive.

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So I bought a BCD436HP as an additional countermeasure, and to satisfy idle curiosity. My expectation was that I'd be slightly more informed about what was going on around me, and anything above and beyond would be gravy.

It was delivered Monday evening. On Tuesday, I put my zip code in there, enabled Close Call, threw it in the truck, and went about my business.

I was headed to a meeting just outside of Boston. Coming up to a right hand turn near my destination, cars in front of me are going right on red. I move up, stop, and I'm beginning to look to my left when the CC alarm goes off. This caused me to take an extra second too look at the intersection more closely, and in that extra second I saw that in a really strange spot, across the intersection, off to the LEFT, up HIGH on an arm positioning a stop light out over a driveway was a sign indicating no turn on red. So, since it was marked I stayed put.

And then the officer who keyed his mic comes into view, pulling off a side street to my right, pulling into the intersection, and taking a left to pass me.

I think that if that CC alert had not gone off, I might not have taken the extra moment and might have missed the sign, followed the rest of the traffic, and while the officer could not have seen the previous cars turn I am certain he would have seen me and been justified in pulling me over. So I'm going to chalk that things up as money well spent and say it paid for itself right there on the spot on my first drive. Buying the scanner was much less expensive than a ticket+insurance surcharge (and keeping the record clean has a value in itself that can't be qualified in dollars).

Plus, talk about raising awareness: I won't ever make the mistake of following others in turning right on red at that intersection. That has it's own value in terms of safety... it must be marked that way for a reason, right? ;)
 

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WOW! I'm going to try to do some research to figure out the range and effectiveness of Close Call. Sounds like the BluEye for Europe which warns you based on proximity to transmissions...but they say it's too complex to make one for the US and the US may be changing their frequencies iirc.

Any experienced scanner users have feedback on Close Call or a similar feature?
 

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WOW! I'm going to try to do some research to figure out the range and effectiveness of Close Call. Sounds like the BluEye for Europe which warns you based on proximity to transmissions...but they say it's too complex to make one for the US and the US may be changing their frequencies iirc.

Any experienced scanner users have feedback on Close Call or a similar feature?
@FoxStang has used it I think at one point. He even took off the antenna to limit the CC reception to his immediate proximity at one point, if I recall correctly.
 

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Thanks for sharing, but please stop tempting me to spend more money. :)
Ditto....

Plus I am eyeing getting SDS100 with GPS added on Adapts to the area frequencies to hear. More crap to know about, and more money to spend. :)
 

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Thanks for sharing, but please stop tempting me to spend more money. :)
I can not think of two people more deserving of a scanner! Come on over to the dark side,
Ditto....

Plus I am eyeing getting SDS100 with GPS added on Adapts to the area frequencies to hear. More crap to know about, and more money to spend. :)
From our limited conversations, I believe you will not regret it! I suspect you'd like to watch/listen to them more than you'd like them to watch /listen to you? It does help to level the playing field where encryption is not in use.
 

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WOW! I'm going to try to do some research to figure out the range and effectiveness of Close Call.
If you are interested, maybe this will help you in your research? It addresses range/effectiveness:

Looking at threads, it seems that people achieve the same level of agreement about the value of Close Call as they do the topic of best radar detector. ;)
 

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I can not think of two people more deserving of a scanner! Come on over to the dark side,
LOL not sure how to take this accusation...

I might have to venture down that rabbit hole one day, and see how much money I can spend on the project once the eminent divorce is filed.
 

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@FoxStang has used it I think at one point. He even took off the antenna to limit the CC reception to his immediate proximity at one point, if I recall correctly.
Not quite - what I did was identify the input frequencies used to transmit from a mobile radio to the repeater tower (normally you’re listening to the tower outputs) and used the information to put together a favorites list for my scanner that runs parallel to normal scanning, but triggers an alert when you’re hearing an input transmission, which means the transmitter is relatively close. This is the “Experimental FoxTracker” in my signature.

Close Call was not very useful in this case, as it won’t discriminate LEOs. You can tell Close Call to only look for VHF/UHF/800MHz and ignore broadcast radio, but many other services such as amateur radio, business radio, and FRS/GMRS operate in those bands as well. Close Call simply can’t narrow its scope enough to do what I wanted.
 

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I have the SDS100 and love it! I'm also an amateur radio operator so I know my RF gear. I had to get this because our county recently switched from a standalone P25 trunked system to a simulcast site of the statewide MARCS. The only scanner that can deal with the simulcast distortion is the Uniden SDS100 and SDS200. Anyway, it's worth its weight in gold due to chatty troopers and aviation units calling out where they are, or where they are heading. I remember some years ago another super nerd friend of mine had discovered that OSP put their GPS locators for their cars on an open data channel, if you had a computer running it would show you where they all were.
 

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I have the SDS100 and love it! I'm also an amateur radio operator so I know my RF gear. I had to get this because our county recently switched from a standalone P25 trunked system to a simulcast site of the statewide MARCS. The only scanner that can deal with the simulcast distortion is the Uniden SDS100 and SDS200. Anyway, it's worth its weight in gold due to chatty troopers and aviation units calling out where they are, or where they are heading. I remember some years ago another super nerd friend of mine had discovered that OSP put their GPS locators for their cars on an open data channel, if you had a computer running it would show you where they all were.
That is like... a holy grail countermeasure. Highly interested in this info
 

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I remember some years ago another super nerd friend of mine had discovered that OSP put their GPS locators for their cars on an open data channel, if you had a computer running it would show you where they all were.
This is interesting. A few years back I was using my BCT15X and I would come across a few "modem" channels that were in the bandwidth known to be used by different Utah LEO. With what you're saying now, this makes a lot of sense. I'll have to ask around on Radio Reference to see what some of the other area experts know about this.
 

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Don’t mean to spam the thread, but here’s a vid demonstrating what my custom programming looks like in operation @sdrawkcaB @Squeamish
 

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That is like... a holy grail countermeasure. Highly interested in this info
X2!!! Any information about this would be greatly appreciated!!!
 

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Ditto....

Plus I am eyeing getting SDS100 with GPS added on Adapts to the area frequencies to hear. More crap to know about, and more money to spend. :)

I got my SDS100 and GPS puck and it works great....As I roadtrip it auto locates agencies as I drive...(Police / HWY Patrol) - Love it - small and very easy to hookup quickly.
 

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whoah whoah... waaaaiiiit. SDS100 (a receiver) with GPS??

Old fart here whose current amateur radio activity involves being the Radio merit badge counselor for my Troop (I'm an ASM) and administering the Morse Code interpreter strip exams.

Is there a reference or "how to" on this kind of wizardry (receiver+gps) as a countermeasure?

edit: Sigh.. off to Google I go. There goes my money
 
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whoah whoah... waaaaiiiit. SDS100 (a receiver) with GPS??

Old fart here whose current amateur radio activity involves being the Radio merit badge counselor for my Troop (I'm an ASM) and administering the Morse Code interpreter strip exams.

Is there a reference or "how to" on this kind of wizardry (receiver+gps) as a countermeasure?

edit: Sigh.. off to Google I go. There goes my money
Yep! SDS100 scanner, Uniden BC-GPSK gives you the GPS receiver, and Uniden BC-UTGC adapts the GPS to the scanner AND powers it.
 

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GPS for providing region info to scanner database so it knows what to scan for? That makes sense.

But I want to know about this broadcast location info. Some agencies also xmit GPS location? Would be a great car-puter project.
 

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