Driving might get even more unenjoyable

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It looks like the Greens want to de-incentivise private travel even more. NZTA has proposed 60 to 80 km/h limits on 90% of our State Highways. 30 in urban areas.
This is based at looking at a map. NZTA need a map to find their arses.
Ms Genter was on National programme this morning, she was asked when the speed limit was last at 80 km/h, she didn't have a clue. She also inferred that our car fleet is as unsafe as the in 80's, when the limit was 80 and the typical car was a Mk4 Cortina with crossply tyres, drums on the rear and no ABS.
The woman just drips ignorance.
Meanwhile, Labour and the Nats will be thinking of the hundreds of millions in more fine revenue.

God defend NZ.
 

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It really is a bizarre situation. But the trouble is, there are actually so many twits in the system now that this could actually happen through sheer systemic ignorance.
I see the AA has actually spoken up against it - possibly the first time in a decade that they've actually spoken up against something so stupid.
 

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Looks like you guys missed the boat or the damage is on its way to your country as well.

S. A about to get slammed....

 

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Isn't Australia much worse when it comes to speed enforcement? From what I've heard, NZ seems much more pleasant.
Our muppets learnt from their muppets. Except, our holiday surcharge starts at 4 k's not 3. And they have more than 10 km's of 110 limit.
 

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It looks like the Greens want to de-incentivise private travel even more. NZTA has proposed 60 to 80 km/h limits on 90% of our State Highways. 30 in urban areas.
This is based at looking at a map. NZTA need a map to find their arses.
Ms Genter was on National programme this morning, she was asked when the speed limit was last at 80 km/h, she didn't have a clue. She also inferred that our car fleet is as unsafe as the in 80's, when the limit was 80 and the typical car was a Mk4 Cortina with crossply tyres, drums on the rear and no ABS.
The woman just drips ignorance.
Meanwhile, Labour and the Nats will be thinking of the hundreds of millions in more fine revenue.

God defend NZ.
Red is the new green....

Edit: lexiadys (dyslexia) above... Green is the new Red. Not better red than dead. :)
 
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It's getting out of hand. Work is thin in alot of industries, wages haven't risen much, costs have blown up, our dollars not the best against the U.S (estimated conversion in future maybe $1AUD only buys $0.60USD, So that's all the ebay bargains down the drain). Too much qualification crap and red tape for small business which holds them back. University is mainly held up by wealthy international students.
That said, they are getting strict on 457visas, but companies who hire backpackers are going to hate to pay full price to Aussies and Aussies don't want crap low paid jobs, as it just doesn't make ends meet.
Price of fuel is going through the roof, premium petrol hitting $1.80-$2.00ltr recently. If you rent, your best chance is house sharing, otherwise renters will burry themselves just having a roof overhead.
One answer would be move to the far country, but try getting a job out there in a place with a town of only 5000 people.
I've no doubt NZ is the same or mildly worse. I'm hearing most of the world is grinding to a slower pace.
China might save us by cutting a few trade deals. I can see Australia leaning on China rather than USA, as Trump is blocking some vital trade at the moment and arguing it out with tariffs.
Is an interesting time right now. Hopefully it improves in future.
Come over here though, I'll hang out with you lot and show you around and we can smash some cartons. Just bring a few packets of ciggs over with you as they are about $30 a packet for low end smokes haha!
 
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It looks like the Greens want to de-incentivise private travel even more. NZTA has proposed 60 to 80 km/h limits on 90% of our State Highways. 30 in urban areas.
This is based at looking at a map. NZTA need a map to find their arses.
Ms Genter was on National programme this morning, she was asked when the speed limit was last at 80 km/h, she didn't have a clue. She also inferred that our car fleet is as unsafe as the in 80's, when the limit was 80 and the typical car was a Mk4 Cortina with crossply tyres, drums on the rear and no ABS.
The woman just drips ignorance.
Meanwhile, Labour and the Nats will be thinking of the hundreds of millions in more fine revenue.

God defend NZ.

I too was appalled at Julianne Genter's grasp of the issues and background knowledge. This whole speed thing is ridiculous, I think most people realise that recent increase in gross road toll is pretty much due to a combination of driver inattention (increasing in-car distractions, particularly cellphones) and a greater volume of road traffic.

She mentioned that "many people don't feel able to cope with the 100 kmph limit, and would appreciate having the pressure to do so removed", or words to that effect... C'mon, if you can't cope with open road speeds then this is a huge red flag that perhaps you may not have the required level of skill or ability to drive; it's not a right, it's a privilege.

I'm probably slightly left of centre in my political outlook, but if this nonsense carries on, I'll be voting blue next go-round...
 
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I too was appalled at Julianne Genter's grasp of the issues and background knowledge. This whole speed thing is ridiculous, I think most people realise that recent increase in gross road toll is pretty much due to a combination of driver inattention (increasing in-car distractions, particularly cellphones) and a greater volume of road traffic.

She mentioned that "many people don't feel able to cope with the 100 kmph limit, and would feel appreciate having the pressure to do so removed", or words to that effect... C'mon, if you can't cope with open road speeds then this is a huge red flag that perhaps you may not have the required level of skill or ability to drive; it's not a right, it's a privilege.

I'm probably slightly left of centre in my political outlook, but if this nonsense carries on then, I'll be voting blue next go-round...
Ha! I think the problem there is with the driving instructor. That's very weak to be used for political leverage.
I think with Australia being so big, interstate roads should have more lanes and speeds increased to 130kmph to save travel time.
Unsure if the Northern Territory still has the 70km stretch of road with no speed limit. Heard they stopped that. I think there should be more of it.
 

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S. A about to get slammed....

$1,472 ($1,031.66 US$) fine for going 30-45 km/h (18.64-27.96 MPH) over the limit? If you're going over 45 km/h, the fine is going to be $1,658 ($1,062.02 US$)?

That's insanity! Like legitimate "break out the rifles and start a revolution" insanity.
The fine price hikes were announced as part of the South Australian Budget and come as Treasurer Rob Lucas tries to cover a $500 million shortfall in GST returns.
At least they're being honest and admitting this has nothing to do with "public safety" and is all about stealing money from the citizenry to make up for their mismanagement and incompetence.
 

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Red is the new green....
You're not wrong here. You can trace the modern NZ Green party back through a couple of incarnations to the Socialist Unity Party aka NZ Communist Party.
Traces of red remain, hatred of private transport, dislike of wealth, approved party thought only, etc.
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I too was appalled at Julianne Genter's grasp of the issues and background knowledge. This whole speed thing is ridiculous, I think most people realise that recent increase in gross road toll is pretty much due to a combination of driver inattention (increasing in-car distractions, particularly cellphones) and a greater volume of road traffic.

She mentioned that "many people don't feel able to cope with the 100 kmph limit, and would appreciate having the pressure to do so removed", or words to that effect... C'mon, if you can't cope with open road speeds then this is a huge red flag that perhaps you may not have the required level of skill or ability to drive; it's not a right, it's a privilege.

I'm probably slightly left of centre in my political outlook, but if this nonsense carries on, I'll be voting blue next go-round...
I couldn't agree more, except for your last sentence. Remember that the Tories lowered the drink drive limit and it was going to save 40 - 50 lives a year?
And, they almost never change policies that Labour introduces, unless it financially benefits their fatcat supporters.
 
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You're not wrong here. You can trace the modern NZ Green party back through a couple of incarnations to the Socialist Unity Party aka NZ Communist Party.
Watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.
 

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I've thretened it a few times recently, with the way things are here right now, a move back to Canada is ever more enticing.
 

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Time for a revolution. It seems at times it is the only solution to the oppressive boot of bureaucrats.

FREEDOM!
Easier said than done my friend.
Aussies are useless at revolutions. We get rolled far too often. Living in the country is one solution where cops are less frequent. The cash flow is in the city where the majority of people live. Where populations thrive, so do fines.
 

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It doesn't apply in NZ. Nelson is a small town, but when we first arrived it was crawling with revenue collectors. Even Dog units had Stalkers in their utes.
 

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