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Running seg K4 on Bel/Escort products (24.100 - 24.150) only worked well for me in WA, as it cuts out both the low and high frequency (each door mirror) for the VF Commodore. Unfortunately the Mazda CX-5,7,9 etc sit right at 24.125 now where the Raptor RP-1 on K band sits in WA.

I appreciate you guys can't run this seg as you will cut out the low frequency Redflex cams.

Best filtering I've found for the Commodore is the V1 with TMF2. I used to have a 3.893 with the original TMF, and I had to back off following a Commodore by at least 75m for it to stop alerting. I now have a 3.8945 with TMF2, and I can get to within about 10m following before it punches through.
 

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This is an interesting/annoying problem to have. Uniden did develop K-block for this, I hope they continue to listen and hopefully find a way to get this very very sensitive detector to quieten down against BSMs and other K falses.
 

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JBV1 now has a specific GM and Honda filter. The GM one only activates when it picks up both freqs that the GM system transmits. So it doesn't mute any single freq alerts which is important where they run K band guns.
 

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JBV1 now has a specific GM and Honda filter. The GM one only activates when it picks up both freqs that the GM system transmits. So it doesn't mute any single freq alerts which is important where they run K band guns.
Wrong thread mate, we talking Uniden R7 here.
 

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Wrong thread mate, we talking Uniden R7 here.
Just pointing out that GM can be effectively dealt with without resorting to blinding the detection capability.
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My mate reckons Commodores are at 24.039/24.040ghz
If they're the same as US, and what I've seen from Commodores indicates they are, GM transmits around 24.070 and 24.170.
That's why they're a bugger to filter.
 
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If they're the same as US, and what I've seen from Commodores indicates they are, GM transmits around 24.070 and 24.170.
That's why they're a bugger to filter.

The fact that mobile redflex dropped their frequencies below 24.050 may not only to help avoid detection but also gives a cleaner band. I suspect the Commodores must also effect the redflex system. Otherwise they'd also have to come up with really good filtering systems. At the end of the day, whether its us or redflex, detecting polarised weak intensity 24.070, when slammed with 24.070 from a commodore is really going to mess up the signal to noise ratio! I wonder if there are statistically less tickets issued by redlex to commodore owners than others!? That would be an interesting thing to OIA request if the vehicle types information was also collated.
 

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Just out of interest, does this mean that if you own one of those commodores then a radar detector is going to be unusable unless you turn K band off?
 

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Just out of interest, does this mean that if you own one of those commodores then a radar detector is going to be unusable unless you turn K band off?
///////people have that issue with their mazdas in the us, so possibly yes.
 

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I have a VF Commodore and with the rear antenna of the R7, yes it is unusable in Highway mode on K band. City mode is ok or Advanced with K band set to 50%, not ideal as you need max sensitivity for the Redflex. Hardly ever get a front false 99% from the rear antenna. On the Holden My Link you can turn off the Blind Spot Monitoring on the screen which stops the wing mirror lights activating but the actual K band radar still operates. The only way to stop this is to remove the fuse but this also disables the Park Assist.
 

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The fact that mobile redflex dropped their frequencies below 24.050 may not only to help avoid detection but also gives a cleaner band. I suspect the Commodores must also effect the redflex system. Otherwise they'd also have to come up with really good filtering systems. At the end of the day, whether its us or redflex, detecting polarised weak intensity 24.070, when slammed with 24.070 from a commodore is really going to mess up the signal to noise ratio! I wonder if there are statistically less tickets issued by redlex to commodore owners than others!? That would be an interesting thing to OIA request if the vehicle types information was also collated.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think low power K like Redflex has some type of filtering to mitigate BSM's. One avenue would be the rate of doppler shift. Doppler shift on a K source from a car (BSM) would be different to doppler shift on the reflected transmission from the Redlex.
Judging from the number of camera tickets cops get, I don't think Commodores block Redflex.
 

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My friend confirmed last night that even with only K1 segment on, the R7 is far too chatty with false alarms and BSM's so he now runs with K off. If Uniden implemented a "one press" K band on/off then it would make life alot easier for only running K on the highway.
 

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What is the frequency range on K1 segment? I would hope it is cut right down to the lower end to just capture mobile redflex. Anything above 24.050 is likely to be too high.

In fact I reckon it would be better to have the option to select bands for the front and rear independently of each other. This would of course be in addition to segmentation. If possible, I would thereby choose to run Ka band front and rear, and just K band K1 on front. Perhaps someone with an R7 NZ could suggest this to Uniden NZ.

If people are ultimately choosing to run the R7 with K band turned off, you'd be better off saving a pile of cash and opting for the US R7 and adding my fully comprehensive gps database (now just releasing NZ version 2.12)! I actually love running the R7 running like this. It is completely quiet except for Ka band, but with directional alerts. Also with my gps, even going across country I could rely 100% being alerted to pole mount redflex. If I do want to be extra cautious I always still have the option to run K band. Likewise if I see a van in the distance, and/or locally I also have the ability to confirm whether it is in fact a redflex or not.

As a compromise between performance and peace of mind, my aim is to test a converted DFR7 on NZA spec, and run it vertically mounted to use as front K band (with gps lockouts), combined with the R7 (or the R3) running Ka band only.
 

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What is the frequency range on K1 segment?
 

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Just as an FYI - DFR7NZ...
“K1 – 23.950 – 24.110GHz - ON (IF you do not have an option to segment K Band, then you do not have a AU/NZ specific detector).”
Tuned for NZ Redflex Mobile Speed Cameras
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@Up All Night @winterbrew
Thanks for the info. I'm really keen to get the transfer completed.

I'm also really keen to hear from anyone who has access to an DFR7 installed with the NZA firmware. I would like to ask them to run some simple tests that will confirm a few unknowns (don't worry this wouldn't involve uploading anything or risking your detector!).
 

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Have a DFR-950 USA FW
 

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@Mithheru Is it possible to apply your updated GPS database to a Uniden R7 with NZ firmware? As purchased it came with version 1.37 which is a bit old, and who knows when Blulink will have it updated "officially".
 

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@Mithheru Is it possible to apply your updated GPS database to a Uniden R7 with NZ firmware? As purchased it came with version 1.37 which is a bit old, and who knows when Blulink will have it updated "officially".
You'll be joining the queue on that. @brock At the moment without Uniden New Zealand / blulink releasing the R7 NZ firmware I consider it too risky to attempt to put my database onto an NZ R7.

If you're finding it too noisy on K band, and are prepared to sacrifice the K band segmentation in exchange for a comprehensive NZ gps database then come over to the US firmware. Once/if the R7 NZ firmware/update is released, I can probably convert you back again. I am okay with the US R7 on K band as I can tolerate a few falses, and gps lockouts take care of most of it. The other choice is to turn K band off and have a nice quiet detector with arrows for Ka band and rely on my gps database for all the fixed cameras. I'm also looking to complement the R7 with a DFR7 running K band only, to try to make an equivalent to just having K band on front only.
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Another possible option would be to buy a second hand Uniden DFR7 or LRD950 which should be quite cheap, and install my latest database on that. Then run that with bands turn off at the same time as the R7. Just means having two detectors cluttering up your windscreen.
 
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@Mithheru Thanks, I will wait and "join the queue". I like the K segmentation, as the speed lock out filters most of the falses driving in Auckland where seldom I exceed the PSL... so much so, I haven't found a mobile camera that I can test against!
 

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