ALP Mounting Locations on Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio (1 Viewer)

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Just picked up a new 2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifogio. Of all the cars I've had I'm most unsure on this one where to mount ALP heads on this one! Not sure I'm going to bother on this car unless there's a reasonable way to do it. I have a 4 head ALP System available - but I'm really just concerned with front protection. I live in Maine and drive to MA/NH weekly, so do have the chance of seeing Dragon Eye guns.

Anyone have a setup that would work on this without too severe cutting/modifications?

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Something like this. The bottom one probably higher- like 3rd hole under the Alfa romeo logo.
 

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Something like this. The bottom one probably higher- like 3rd hole under the Alfa romeo logo.
I agree except for the Position of the TX. Doesn’t look to be 20” off the ground.

Custom enclosure that can house the RX heads below the headlights as shown. Another for the TX below the front emblem. It’ll have to be sticking out a bit.
 

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Unfortunately this wouldn’t be a viable option for me. As much as I want Lidar protection - custom mounts under the headlights wouldn’t be possible for me to do.
 

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Unfortunately this wouldn’t be a viable option for me. As much as I want Lidar protection - custom mounts under the headlights wouldn’t be possible for me to do.
You are going to need to find a way to get sensors near those lights for that car. I can envision using some Sugru to hold the sensors in place. The issue will be getting the sensor wires through the light/body area.
I doubt placing sensors to the extreme R and L of the Grill is going to help, I could be wrong.

See here: Where to mount ALP sensors - Alfa Giulia
 

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I appreciate the suggestions! Unfortunately I think the ALP heads are just too large for where I would need to put them on this vehicle. I don't think I could mount them in a way that they'd be aesthetically acceptable to me without major modifications to the bumper (which I wouldn't want to do). I wish the Stinger Fiber Optic jammers had better performance! That system seems like a much better installation option for this vehicle.
 

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well where are you driving the car? and what guns are you up against? if you aren't facing the tough guns like DE much you could go with the heads low in the lower grill right under the solid black piece and right under the plate. if you added a TX in the middle below the emblem (should fit as the TX is very small) I should think it would do well against all but maybe dragoneye. each RX head covers about a 24 inch radius circle so if you measure from the desired sensor location to the edges of the headlight and into the middle as long as there isn't much sticking out past the 24inch mark from either head it should do OK against most guns. against DE it may struggle as that install needs to be pretty optimal, so punch through might occur under 600 feet or so if targeted in the right spots.
 

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Good idea! Maybe I'll give that a try. I do drive through MA once a week - but I don't think I encounter the DE too often. I'm pretty sure the 5-6 times I was hit in the last few years on my last car was with different guns.
 

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it's not super common in new england areas... if you drove around atlanta or ohio i'd be more concerned... but up there it should do fine... mostly Stalker, kustom, and LTI guns up there. take some measurements and see how the coverage would be.
 

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I just measured and if the heads are under the black piece towards the sides of the bumper it will cover all of the headlights with a 24" radius.
 

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nice, so then you will just have to adjust the left right position to find a good balance between coverage of the headlights and making sure you don't get a hole in the middle, (tx head doesn't receive) you should be ok as that car isn't that large. it's not optimal but I think i will be good for most real world encounters. Also see about getting it tested once installed, lots of members have guns so arrange to meetup once installed and get it checked out to see how it does so you know your performance, but I think it should do decently.
 

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I appreciate the suggestions! Unfortunately I think the ALP heads are just too large for where I would need to put them on this vehicle. I don't think I could mount them in a way that they'd be aesthetically acceptable to me without major modifications to the bumper (which I wouldn't want to do). I wish the Stinger Fiber Optic jammers had better performance! That system seems like a much better installation option for this vehicle.
That's a beautiful car and I understand your reluctance to chop it up or make it painfully obvious you have aftermarket "stuff" installed on it.

Stinger has a new Fiber system that @Vortex will be testing soon: Stinger All Fiber Laser marketing email for September 24, 2018.

Before you pull the trigger on anything I would wait for at least these early testing results on this new system and see how it compares to the competition. I'll be the first to say Stinger has a long history of over promising and under delivering, but their hardware design is so compelling that I can't help but hope they finally got it right.

Also Boston PD has DE and there has been at least 1 report of MA State Police using DE on the pike in the metro Boston area (Troop H). Personally I haven't seen it while driving into Boston a few days a week for 2 years now, but I can believe it's out there.

With a good, sensitive system you will often find it will alert to cars ahead being targeted, which buys you some extra time to slow down before you even need the performance. This of course depends on the number of cars on the road and the situation, but even my far from perfect Stinger laser square system kept me ticket free on multiple occasions while driving at definitely getting a ticket speeds. My experience has been that most highway encounters are at 1000'+, so even a less than JTG solution can be beneficial.
 

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That's a beautiful car and I understand your reluctance to chop it up or make it painfully obvious you have aftermarket "stuff" installed on it.

Stinger has a new Fiber system that @Vortex will be testing soon: Stinger All Fiber Laser marketing email for September 24, 2018.

Before you pull the trigger on anything I would wait for at least these early testing results on this new system and see how it compares to the competition. I'll be the first to say Stinger has a long history of over promising and under delivering, but their hardware design is so compelling that I can't help but hope they finally got it right.

Also Boston PD has DE and there has been at least 1 report of MA State Police using DE on the pike in the metro Boston area (Troop H). Personally I haven't seen it while driving into Boston a few days a week for 2 years now, but I can believe it's out there.

With a good, sensitive system you will often find it will alert to cars ahead being targeted, which buys you some extra time to slow down before you even need the performance. This of course depends on the number of cars on the road and the situation, but even my far from perfect Stinger laser square system kept me ticket free on multiple occasions while driving at definitely getting a ticket speeds. My experience has been that most highway encounters are at 1000'+, so even a less than JTG solution can be beneficial.
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing - the Stinger Fiber Optic system is such a huge breakthrough from an installation standpoint. I'm rooting for them as well! I'd have no problem selling my ALP system and buying a Stinger if the performance is tested to be sufficient.
 

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That would be my recommendation as well since this car is definitely not LJ friendly. Another option is to wait and see what Stinger has in store. The all fiber jammer that @mikedotd mentioned would work quite well here due to the limited installation options.
 

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I'm going to give the below install a try with 3 regular ALP heads - although it isn't ideal I think it's the best option. After taking some measurements, a TX sensor is too far from the outer RX sensors to work in that center grille (about 28" away) - so there would be a dead spot for receiving in the center. This setup (below) would have the heads approximately 25" apart.

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What if you put the heads closer in. Like on the left hand side of you licences plate? Closer to the middle grill.
Would your head lights still be in the 24” bubble of the RX head?
 

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