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I have been running the R3 mainly, but the rare times I switch to the 360 seems to be when I have my encounters lately.....

K-Band (24.124) - This town has always run Ka 35.5 in the past but I noticed the last time I was here I had a K-band hit, well now this is my 2nd. It looks they have changed over their units with new vehicles to match as well. Part of me wonders if this is 'low power' k-band they are now running, like the Troopers in our area. I have too many K-band encounters to mention, even given the corner here I feel I should have had further.

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Sounds like Raptor RP-1 with K band front and Ka rear.
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I have a max 360 and raptor and maybe tomorrow I can test this out.
 

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I think a major contributor to the short distance was that you were both coming from opposite ends of an S curve and had a bus and a bunch of foliage blocking what was an off-axis signal until you both entered the center of the S.

In my area they run "regular" power MPH K-band units mounted in the vehicle and I've had many similar experiences with the Max360 in the curves with foliage.
 

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I think a major contributor to the short distance was that you were both coming from opposite ends of an S curve and had a bus and a bunch of foliage blocking what was an off-axis signal until you both entered the center of the S.

In my area they run "regular" power MPH K-band units mounted in the vehicle and I've had many similar experiences with the Max360 in the curves with foliage.
Normally I would agree with you but as you can see below there is not much of an S curve to speak of, not that should have killed the detection that much. It was 725' until we passed or 1450' total. I have had amazing detections through trees and curves before with K-band.... (two images, one with no foliage, one with full foliage - we are in the mid way right now with growth).

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I tend to agree with mikedotd. Curves, trees, not much warning but before the cop saw you is a save. Max are pretty off axis blind anyway. Well not blind but off axis doesnt seem like their strong point.
 

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I tend to agree with mikedotd. Curves, trees, not much warning but before the cop saw you is a save. Max are pretty off axis blind anyway. Well not blind but off axis doesnt seem like their strong point.
There was a bit of an S turn, but if you look he was pretty much on-axis, just the twist between us. I am surprised I did not get a few weak alerts before this. I have said since the new IVT update those weak sniffs are gone on my unit.

Here is a 33.8 encounter.....further off axis....and at a 75% greater distance....
Radar - Max360 vs 33.8 - MA state trooper

I know each encounter has it own unique properties and the only true way to get a baseline is to run a RD for a while to learn what is normal and what is not. Given how this RD typically performs on K I am leaning towards this being low powered.

Is there a, not too complicated, way to figure out what the departments purchase on-line?
 

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There was a bit of an S turn, but if you look he was pretty much on-axis, just the twist between us. I am surprised I did not get a few weak alerts before this. I have said since the new IVT update those weak sniffs are gone on my unit.

Here is a 33.8 encounter.....further off axis....and at a 75% greater distance....
Radar - Max360 vs 33.8 - MA state trooper

I know each encounter has it own unique properties and the only true way to get a baseline is to run a RD for a while to learn what is normal and what is not. Given how this RD typically performs on K I am leaning towards this being low powered.

Is there a, not too complicated, way to figure out what the departments purchase on-line?
should be in the city counsel minutes what they purchased, budget etc. I think that's how others have found out
 

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The low power k guns are (disgustingly) nasty.

Just over the border in NYS I got cooked last year with the XP. And that detector is rocking on K band.

Its tough for sure.


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There was a bit of an S turn, but if you look he was pretty much on-axis, just the twist between us. I am surprised I did not get a few weak alerts before this. I have said since the new IVT update those weak sniffs are gone on my unit.

Here is a 33.8 encounter.....further off axis....and at a 75% greater distance....
Radar - Max360 vs 33.8 - MA state trooper

I know each encounter has it own unique properties and the only true way to get a baseline is to run a RD for a while to learn what is normal and what is not. Given how this RD typically performs on K I am leaning towards this being low powered.

Is there a, not too complicated, way to figure out what the departments purchase on-line?
If you can send me a picture of the police cars in your area and I’ll let you know.
 

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So...here is another K from today from a town where they use the Bee III .....

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915' from alert to passing or 1,830' total. Quick ramp up though.

Just a comparison to the original one in this post.

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That video reminds me of a Stalker Patrol K band encounter I had two weeks ago. I had a sharp S curve though. If you are able to find out, it would be interesting to see which radar was used in this instance.

Do you normally get a ramp up like that on K band? Is that a function of the IVT filtering?

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That video reminds me of a Stalker Patrol K band encounter I had two weeks ago. I had a sharp S curve though. If you are able to find out, it would be interesting to see which radar was used in this instance.

Do you normally get a ramp up like that on K band? Is that a function of the IVT filtering?

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I've been wanting to test the K filtering penalty on the Escort 360 for awhile. Between Radenso and Escort we have heard about the great filtering performance but the flip side is, at what cost? I think we see it here in that first video.
 

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Quick question?? I believe in Ontario OPP use this type. What is the "kill" zone with low power K? Using video provided is it at full ramp Waring ramp up or do you have to be much closer to device than a regular k band?

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Quick question?? I believe in Ontario OPP use this type. What is the "kill" zone with low power K? Using video provided is it at full ramp Waring ramp up or do you have to be much closer to device than a regular k band?

Thanks
Generally speaking it will be a tighter kill zone and an almost equally compressed ramp up as a result.
 

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Quick question?? I believe in Ontario OPP use this type. What is the "kill" zone with low power K? Using video provided is it at full ramp Waring ramp up or do you have to be much closer to device than a regular k band?

Thanks
In our recent test event it was about 1000 ft.

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