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We have a non cdl 26 foot truck we use for business and I want a great window mount RD. What is the best out right now? I keep going back and forth. Driving in tri state and new england. ALso are Rds illegal for ALL commercial trucks or just semis? Need it to be quiet, but effective of course.
 

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We have a non cdl 26 foot truck we use for business and I want a great window mount RD. What is the best out right now? I keep going back and forth. Driving in tri state and new england. ALso are Rds illegal for ALL commercial trucks or just semis? Need it to be quiet, but effective of course.
I believe RD's are illegal in all commercial vehicles over 10,000lbs. It's safe to say a 26' truck is going to be over the limit. As for RD's, something small and stealthy is ideal. The R3 and Pro M are your best choices, with the R3 having somewhat better range and the Pro M being less "chatty". Likewise, both are functionally stealth in regards to Spectres, something to keep in mind as some states use them to enforce the RD ban in CV's.

@Freebird could probably give you some good advice as well.
 
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find a discrete way to mount it and have a place to hide it if you are getting pulled. I would say a Uniden R3 or ProM as well. they are pretty undetectable and have good filtering (the radenso is the better on filtering of the two) the R3 has more customization and range.
 

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Whatever you decide to run, I would hide it really well, hardwire it and use a kill switch.
 

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I loved my R3, but they are definitely not stealth to RDDs as a whole. It seems to vary widely; testing results are mixed, some showed it very detectable, others did not. Safest bet for RDD immunity is to get one that was designed to be shielded. Specifically the current RedLine EX (which does have an IVT filter) or the discontinued RedLine (original), Beltronics STI Driver , and STI Magnum. The later three don’t have an IVT filter.
 

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I believe RD's are illegal in all commercial vehicles over 10,000lbs. It's safe to say a 26' truck is going to be over the limit. As for RD's, something small and stealthy is ideal. The R3 and Pro M are your best choices, with the R3 having somewhat better range and the Pro M being less "chatty". Likewise, both are functionally stealth in regards to Spectres, something to keep in mind as some states use them to enforce the RD ban in CV's.

@Freebird could probably give you some good advice as well.
He's right it is illegal in commercial but my dad uses one everyday in his truck but it's a freightliner classic and it's hard to see his. He still runs an escort 8500 which is actually still awesome idk how maybe the height it's at? Or where he drives overnight but very little falses and good range

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He's right it is illegal in commercial but my dad uses one everyday in his truck but it's a freightliner classic and it's hard to see his. He still runs an escort 8500 which is actually still awesome idk how maybe the height it's at? Or where he drives overnight but very little falses and good range

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Seeing it is one problem, but the other problem is that radar detectors can be detected by a Radar Detector-Detector (RDD).

Spectre RDDs can be used by police in any location to find commercial truck drivers who are using radar detectors. As a passenger vehicle driver, you don't need to worry unless you're in Virginia or D.C. since there are no laws against radar detectors in the other 49 states. However if you're a commercial truck driver, using a radar detector in your commercial vehicle is illegal in ALL 50 states and the District of Columbia.


 

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Seeing it is one problem, but the other problem is that radar detectors can be detected by a Radar Detector-Detector (RDD).

Spectre RDDs can be used by police in any location to find commercial truck drivers who are using radar detectors. As a passenger vehicle driver, you don't need to worry unless you're in Virginia or D.C. since there are no laws against radar detectors in the other 49 states. However if you're a commercial truck driver, using a radar detector in your commercial vehicle is illegal in ALL 50 states and the District of Columbia.


I never thought about that he stays in state I dont think ky uses them. Aren't the uniden r3 and r7 undectible by them ?

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I never thought about that he stays in state I dont think ky uses them. Aren't the uniden r3 and r7 undectible by them ?

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Recent testing shows it's hit or miss. So, error on the safe side, and assume that yes, they are detectable according to some of the testing results. ***


For law enforcement organizations (LEOs), you have (1) City/Town , (2) county (sheriff), and (3) state police forces (state police, highway patrol). Additionally, you have your (4) various Federal / National police forces (FBI, DHS, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, ICE, and etc.)

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of your local city, county, and state PD will generally not have or use a Spectre RDD. However, that doesn't mean NONE will have or use the spectre. There can and will be LEOs who are assigned specific duties or are part of a specialized enforcement team that priorities and focuses on commercial trucking enforcement. All it takes is to pass by just one of them with a Spectre RDD turned on, and your commercial trucking drivers license is revoked, you get a felony charge since it's a federal law, and you lose your source of income and your job.

Even a federal LEO organization who isn't typically known to focus on commercial truck driving law enforcement could still be running an RDD. I'll invent a scenario for example. Say the DEA is creating an enforcement plan for the upcoming months to try and curb the upward trend of the illegal transport of drugs in commercial trucks heading North from near the southern national border. Any LEO could use an RDD to detect detectors in use in commercial trucks, and use that as probable cause for a stop and search of the vehicle. While you may not be transporting drugs -- just running a detectable detector could get you pulled over by a DEA agent who has a Spectre RDD. You have no drugs? Fine, you're clean there -- but it's still too late -- you're going to get a citation for having the radar detector in your commercial truck and now you just lost your commercial license, got fired from your trucking job since you're unemployable to them, and lost your home since you can't pay your bills.

Do your dad a favor, and don't let him run a detector that is detectable. An Escort RedLine EX may cost $549 USD, but that $549 USD will be tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than losing his job, his income, and his house.


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Recent testing shows it's hit or miss. So, error on the safe side, and assume that yes, they are detectable according to some of the testing results. ***


For law enforcement organizations (LEOs), you have (1) City/Town , (2) county (sheriff), and (3) state police forces (state police, highway patrol). Additionally, you have your (4) various Federal / National police forces (FBI, DHS, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, ICE, and etc.)

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of your local city, county, and state PD will generally not have or use a Spectre RDD. However, that doesn't mean NONE will have or use the spectre. There can and will be LEOs who are assigned specific duties or are part of a specialized enforcement team that priorities and focuses on commercial trucking enforcement. All it takes is to pass by just one of them with a Spectre RDD turned on, and your commercial trucking drivers license is revoked, you get a felony charge since it's a federal law, and you lose your source of income and your job.

Even a federal LEO organization who isn't typically known to focus on commercial truck driving law enforcement could still be running an RDD. I'll invent a scenario for example. Say the DEA is creating an enforcement plan for the upcoming months to try and curb the upward trend of the illegal transport of drugs in commercial trucks heading North from near the southern national border. Any LEO could use an RDD to detect detectors in use in commercial trucks, and use that as probable cause for a stop and search of the vehicle. While you may not be transporting drugs -- just running a detectable detector could get you pulled over by a DEA agent who has a Spectre RDD. You have no drugs? Fine, you're clean there -- but it's still too late -- you're going to get a citation for having the radar detector in your commercial truck and now you just lost your commercial license, got fired from your trucking job since you're unemployable to them, and lost your home since you can't pay your bills.

Do your dad a favor, and don't let him run a detector that is detectable. An Escort RedLine EX may cost $549 USD, but that $549 USD will be tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than losing his job, his income, and his house.


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And that's a wrap! That's a very good way to put it!
 
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Thanks for the info I'll pass it along

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Recent testing shows it's hit or miss. So, error on the safe side, and assume that yes, they are detectable according to some of the testing results. ***


For law enforcement organizations (LEOs), you have (1) City/Town , (2) county (sheriff), and (3) state police forces (state police, highway patrol). Additionally, you have your (4) various Federal / National police forces (FBI, DHS, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, ICE, and etc.)

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of your local city, county, and state PD will generally not have or use a Spectre RDD. However, that doesn't mean NONE will have or use the spectre. There can and will be LEOs who are assigned specific duties or are part of a specialized enforcement team that priorities and focuses on commercial trucking enforcement. All it takes is to pass by just one of them with a Spectre RDD turned on, and your commercial trucking drivers license is revoked, you get a felony charge since it's a federal law, and you lose your source of income and your job.

Even a federal LEO organization who isn't typically known to focus on commercial truck driving law enforcement could still be running an RDD. I'll invent a scenario for example. Say the DEA is creating an enforcement plan for the upcoming months to try and curb the upward trend of the illegal transport of drugs in commercial trucks heading North from near the southern national border. Any LEO could use an RDD to detect detectors in use in commercial trucks, and use that as probable cause for a stop and search of the vehicle. While you may not be transporting drugs -- just running a detectable detector could get you pulled over by a DEA agent who has a Spectre RDD. You have no drugs? Fine, you're clean there -- but it's still too late -- you're going to get a citation for having the radar detector in your commercial truck and now you just lost your commercial license, got fired from your trucking job since you're unemployable to them, and lost your home since you can't pay your bills.

Do your dad a favor, and don't let him run a detector that is detectable. An Escort RedLine EX may cost $549 USD, but that $549 USD will be tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than losing his job, his income, and his house.


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Is their a decent budget detector I can get him for Father's Day that isn't detectable?

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Is their a decent budget detector I can get him for Father's Day that isn't detectable?

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If it was me, I'd look for a good used Redline-O. They keep popping up in the classifieds for around $350.00 or so. I know that they are chatty on K band , but you can turn on TFS, or better yet do what @Freebird does in his truck, turn K band off period! My Redline-O is a monster on Ka band and I still run it every day! I can promise you it's undetectable too! It will destroy that 8500!
 

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Thanks I will look for one once I have access to the classifieds section I need like 5 more post I think

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Thanks I will look for one once I have access to the classifieds section I need like 5 more post I think

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My bad! I didn't realize that you couldn't use them yet.
 

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Recent testing shows it's hit or miss. So, error on the safe side, and assume that yes, they are detectable according to some of the testing results. ***


For law enforcement organizations (LEOs), you have (1) City/Town , (2) county (sheriff), and (3) state police forces (state police, highway patrol). Additionally, you have your (4) various Federal / National police forces (FBI, DHS, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, ICE, and etc.)

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of your local city, county, and state PD will generally not have or use a Spectre RDD. However, that doesn't mean NONE will have or use the spectre. There can and will be LEOs who are assigned specific duties or are part of a specialized enforcement team that priorities and focuses on commercial trucking enforcement. All it takes is to pass by just one of them with a Spectre RDD turned on, and your commercial trucking drivers license is revoked, you get a felony charge since it's a federal law, and you lose your source of income and your job.

Even a federal LEO organization who isn't typically known to focus on commercial truck driving law enforcement could still be running an RDD. I'll invent a scenario for example. Say the DEA is creating an enforcement plan for the upcoming months to try and curb the upward trend of the illegal transport of drugs in commercial trucks heading North from near the southern national border. Any LEO could use an RDD to detect detectors in use in commercial trucks, and use that as probable cause for a stop and search of the vehicle. While you may not be transporting drugs -- just running a detectable detector could get you pulled over by a DEA agent who has a Spectre RDD. You have no drugs? Fine, you're clean there -- but it's still too late -- you're going to get a citation for having the radar detector in your commercial truck and now you just lost your commercial license, got fired from your trucking job since you're unemployable to them, and lost your home since you can't pay your bills.

Do your dad a favor, and don't let him run a detector that is detectable. An Escort RedLine EX may cost $549 USD, but that $549 USD will be tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than losing his job, his income, and his house.


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^Good points, and I'll add a few things as well. In regards to Spectres, VA is by far the biggest user of them and they are used to enforce the general RD ban and for commercial vehicles (CV). Nationwide, Spectres are used in a number of other states, mainly by state police or dedicated commercial vehicle enforcement (CVE) units. However, I doubt they are used in great numbers and definitely not to the extent of VA.

As for mounting your RD, the sun visor clip as mentioned earlier is good option. It's less obvious than mounting on the windshield and easier to take down quickly. I usually ran my V1 this way in Virginia, albeit not in a commercial vehicle. Likewise, no tell tale suction cup marks either.
 

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Again, I am Late to the party. Mentions not alerting me. Anyhoo Good job covering the important points guys!
 

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Recent testing shows it's hit or miss. So, error on the safe side, and assume that yes, they are detectable according to some of the testing results. ***


For law enforcement organizations (LEOs), you have (1) City/Town , (2) county (sheriff), and (3) state police forces (state police, highway patrol). Additionally, you have your (4) various Federal / National police forces (FBI, DHS, US Marshals, DEA, ATF, ICE, and etc.)

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of your local city, county, and state PD will generally not have or use a Spectre RDD. However, that doesn't mean NONE will have or use the spectre. There can and will be LEOs who are assigned specific duties or are part of a specialized enforcement team that priorities and focuses on commercial trucking enforcement. All it takes is to pass by just one of them with a Spectre RDD turned on, and your commercial trucking drivers license is revoked, you get a felony charge since it's a federal law, and you lose your source of income and your job.

Even a federal LEO organization who isn't typically known to focus on commercial truck driving law enforcement could still be running an RDD. I'll invent a scenario for example. Say the DEA is creating an enforcement plan for the upcoming months to try and curb the upward trend of the illegal transport of drugs in commercial trucks heading North from near the southern national border. Any LEO could use an RDD to detect detectors in use in commercial trucks, and use that as probable cause for a stop and search of the vehicle. While you may not be transporting drugs -- just running a detectable detector could get you pulled over by a DEA agent who has a Spectre RDD. You have no drugs? Fine, you're clean there -- but it's still too late -- you're going to get a citation for having the radar detector in your commercial truck and now you just lost your commercial license, got fired from your trucking job since you're unemployable to them, and lost your home since you can't pay your bills.

Do your dad a favor, and don't let him run a detector that is detectable. An Escort RedLine EX may cost $549 USD, but that $549 USD will be tens of thousands of dollars cheaper than losing his job, his income, and his house.


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It's not a felony, i got wrote up for one last year. It's csa points and a big ticket. I got that ticket thrown out though. Got pulled over for evading a port of entry and no permit for the state of NM.

That being said don't leave it visible and use an r3/r1, redline ex, or an RPM.
 
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