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Whoever reported Patton. Just ignore him. I did few years ago and life has been better. His go to motto is to instigate a fight so others will get banned while he just stands back and watches the commotion. Just ignore him and move on.
I don’t think they reported me? I didn’t say anything political in this thread. I haven’t instigated a fight either. All I did was ask what proof they had. They’ve made some pretty serious accusations.
 

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I don’t think they reported me? I didn’t say anything political in this thread. I haven’t instigated a fight either. All I did was ask what proof they had. They’ve made some pretty serious accusations.
x2 i didnt see anything political either
 

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I hope you read the full Mueller report...it’s pretty damning for Trump, but everybody has the right to put their head in a hole and say La La La.
Honestly it made him look like more like incompetent liar than Russian agent. Benefited from the chaos, then pulled a Martha Stewart and tried to impede the investigation.
 

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Look, if Hillary Clinton or Obama was the person in the Mueller Report, I would want them removed from office. Political parties mean nothing to me...it’s all about the Constitution.
I just want them all out regardless :D
 

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Mueller employed an army of partisan unscrupulous prosecutors and spared no expense but couldn't find enough to charge any Americans with colluding with Russia. All he could do was dig up unrelated stuff and mercilessly beat people in hopes they would give him damning testimony against Trump. Even with all the prosecutorial excesses, threats to families, etc., nobody had anything he could make into a case.
Could you imagine if this type of prosecution were aimed at a candidate who paid for Russian dirt? Or collected obscene speaking fees and "donations" from Russia for American assets? Or who flaunted investigations by wiping computers, smashing hard drives and cell phones, etc? Or an official who used the justice department and FBI to bury evidence and squelch an obvious case of perjury, obstruction of justice, etc.?
 

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WOW, that's not political.....
This is what was written about me when I got reported

“Actively insulting, continuously combative, provocatively dismissive, and unapologetically political”

I can’t fathom someone from this thread saying that about my comments here. If I seemed “combative or provocative” then I apologize. I was merely upset with the harsh political comments about the President and some of his staff. I most certainly didn’t make a political statement in this thread.

I wish you would have just pm’ed me rather then start trouble.
 

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Acting U.S. Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan announced on Monday the deployment of about 1,000 more troops to the Middle East for what he said were "defensive purposes," citing concerns about a threat from Iran.
"The recent Iranian attacks validate the reliable, credible intelligence we have received on hostile behaviour by Iranian forces and their proxy groups that threaten United States personnel and interests across the region," Shanahan said in a statement.
Reuters first reported plans to send U.S. additional troops to the Middle East earlier on Monday.


(Reporting by Phil Stewart; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)
 

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Mueller employed an army of partisan unscrupulous prosecutors and spared no expense but couldn't find enough to charge any Americans with colluding with Russia.
Mueller is a life long registered Republican, and you cannot indict a sitting president. That being said, I don’t know how you could draw conclusions about what isn’t in the report considering the powers that be are doing a wonderful job at keeping a substantial amount of It redacted.
 
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Mueller is a life long registered Republican, and you cannot indict a sitting president. That being said, I don’t know how you could draw conclusions about what isn’t in the report considering the powers that be are doing a wonderful job at keeping a substantial amount of It redacted.
By definition, a conspiracy involves more than 1 party and nobody was indicted. Furthermore, nothing says that the president couldn't have been named an unindicted co-conspirator or Mueller could have simply stated there was a conspiracy but declined to name one of the parties. Furthermore, many members of Congress have had the opportunity to review the entire report in a secure setting but the democrats have declined the opportunity because their desire is to stir the pot, not reach the truth (they know the truth since they were the ones that created the whole fraud in the first place.)
 

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By definition, a conspiracy involves more than 1 party and nobody was indicted. Furthermore, nothing says that the president couldn't have been named an unindicted co-conspirator or Mueller could have simply stated there was a conspiracy but declined to name one of the parties. Furthermore, many members of Congress have had the opportunity to review the entire report in a secure setting but the democrats have declined the opportunity because their desire is to stir the pot, not reach the truth (they know the truth since they were the ones that created the whole fraud in the first place.)
Where do you get your information from? The word "conspiracy" literally occurs 12 times on this page. Special Counsel's Office

And there were indictments for conspiracy against 12 Russian nationals, not just against US citizens for random financial crimes, although most of them probably won't ever see the inside of a US courtroom because they fled back to Russia before they could be apprehended.
 
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Where do you get your information from? The word "conspiracy" literally occurs 12 times on this page. Special Counsel's Office

And there were indictments for conspiracy against 12 Russian nationals, not just against US citizens for random financial crimes, although most of them probably won't ever see the inside of a US courtroom because they fled back to Russia before they could be apprehended.
No Americans were alleged to have conspired with the Russians and Mueller could have alleged there were un-indicted co-conspirators which he did not do. The conspiracy was between HRC, the DNC, BHO, and some upper eschelon FBI, DOJ, & intelligence personnel to frame Trump.
 

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No Americans were alleged to have conspired with the Russians and Mueller could have alleged there were un-indicted co-conspirators which he did not do.
Yes, absolutely true.

The conspiracy was between HRC, the DNC, BHO, and some upper eschelon FBI, DOJ, & intelligence personnel to frame Trump.
The work of investigative and intelligence agencies, doing what they normally do, does not make a conspiracy. They may have been fed some of the information by partisan political actors, but after verifying it, they determined that it warranted investigation and I don't think partisan politics played into that decision. They were rightly concerned when they saw so much contact between the campaign of a leading candidate and foreign nationals.

As for the whole Iran situation, I think we could easily have a conspiracy among Saudi Arabia and other Sunni factions to attack ships, and then try to frame Iran. Why do the dirty work when you have a warmonger in a prominent position at the biggest superpower in the world who can do it for you? The interesting thing about this situation is that if it was some sort of terrorist group doing what they normally do, they'd have already announced responsibility for it. And if Iran was trying to get attention on the international stage, I would think they would have done so too.
 
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As for the whole Iran situation, I think we could easily have a conspiracy among Saudi Arabia and other Sunni factions to attack ships, and then try to frame Iran. Why do the dirty work when you have a war hawk in a prominent position at the biggest superpower in the world who can do it for you?
Yup, that's how I see it. UAE and Saudi Arabia have the means, motive, and money to pull off an attack that could be pinned on Iran. What's few million dollars to both of those countries? If you ask me, it's a bargain if it provokes the US into attacking Iran. Even a limited strike would tip the balance of power in the region with SA gaining more than anyone. A weakened Iran would give them the upper hand in their proxy war Iran which is being fought on their doorstep in Yemen.
 

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I have locked this thread for now. @Staff Members I am not much of a US news stories/"politics" man, so cant be of much help here.
 

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I have unlocked this thread, and will keep enforcing the rules as we see fit. We're done giving out warnings, everyone. It's not a lot to ask for when we ask for civility. I don't want to hear any discussions about this in this thread either, back on topic.


Iran shot down a drone today, more escalation. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
 

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