Are all the bsm complainers running in highway mode?

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That almost seems like he was using some I/O along with C/O. It was kind of strange the way your R3 reacted. I think I need to set up a test with my K band gun and run it in C/O and see what happens with my R1's. I'm getting way better range than that on city mode! 1.37 is killer so I know that's not the problem.
Positive it was C/O. I whipped around and he was still firing. Same exact frequency and all. It held on a little longer going in the other direction (which makes no sense because it was FF)
 

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I wonder why we are seeing such different results? I've also seen legit K band on city mode with my R1's and got plenty of range. Looks like I need to run a K band test and run my R1's on city mode and all of the settings in advance mode and see what's up!
I think some Rs are hotter than others. Fortunately I am blessed with a HOT R1. I saw the same thing with my V1s too with a 30% range difference on K band. The M3 Escorts were more consistent on K band.

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I think some Rs are hotter than others. Fortunately I am bless with a HOT R1. I saw the same thing with my V1s too with a 30% range difference on K band. The M3 Escorts were more consistent on K band.

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Even if mine is a little cold, it's still getting the job done, albeit with a few more brown stains on the drivers seat than I'd prefer. It's weird too because this thing is an utter beast on Ka. And I could dial the sensitivity up, but the falsing would drive me insane and cause me to go numb to K alerts. No Bueno
 

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Even if mine is a little cold, it's still getting the job done, albeit with a few more brown stains on the drivers seat than I'd prefer. It's weird too because this thing is an utter beast on Ka. And I could dial the sensitivity up, but the falsing would drive me insane and cause me to go numb to K alerts. No Bueno
Could your GPS settings such as a low speed filter have anything to do with it?
 

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Could your GPS settings such as a low speed filter have anything to do with it?
I don't think so. I knew the cop was ahead thanks to Waze and I was traveling with the flow of traffic at an appropriate speed, so I was watching the detector to see if it would be 35.5 or K band. Was also above my Low Speed Muting threshold
 

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I don't think so. I knew the cop was ahead thanks to Waze and I was traveling with the flow of traffic at an appropriate speed, so I was watching the detector to see if it would be 35.5 or K band. Was also above my Low Speed Muting threshold
It was just a thought! You seemed to be going pretty slow!
 

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That's weird. That's my old detector and I never had a weird k hit like that before. That just started barking full tilt like he just flipped the radar on. I would think you'd get plenty of detection distance with the amount of buildings that could have caused reflections in that area.

You weren't traveling right out of a lockout area, were you?
 

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That's weird. That's my old detector and I never had a weird k hit like that before. That just started barking full tilt like he just flipped the radar on. I would think you'd get plenty of detection distance with the amount of buildings that could have caused reflections in that area.

You weren't traveling right out of a lockout area, were you?
That was a weird alert I agree! I've never seen an alert quite like this either. My first thought was that he I/O'd the car just in front of you, but it acted more like he was shooting out of his front antenna or sometrhing.
 
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That was a weird alert I agree! I've never seen an alert quite like this either. My first thought was that he I/O'd the car just in front of you, but it acted more like he was shooting out of his front antenna or sometrhing.
I wonder if he just finished up the paperwork on a previous customer and fired the radar back up for the next victim.

I know I get hyper paranoid with a new detector and question every detection until I'm comforting with how it operates.

Stay vigilant @NorEaster18
 
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I wonder why we are seeing such different results? I've also seen legit K band on city mode with my R1's and got plenty of range. Looks like I need to run a K band test and run my R1's on city mode and all of the settings in advance mode and see what's up!
I think it's the different terrains... I had meh range with k band 50% but the radar detector was on the dash because we were in VA (and it's not my car).
 

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That's weird. That's my old detector and I never had a weird k hit like that before. That just started barking full tilt like he just flipped the radar on. I would think you'd get plenty of detection distance with the amount of buildings that could have caused reflections in that area.

You weren't traveling right out of a lockout area, were you?
No lockout areas in sight. The single Waze pin had been setup for a bit too. Something like 15 minutes or so. No pins before it, and that's a common spot for them to sit, so I don't think he had a previous customer. And like I mentioned earlier, I flipped around and he was still firing C/O on the same frequency. But that alert never hit 5 bars, so I am pretty confident he was shooting back at me in the the video I posted and when I flipped around, I was driving towards a FF alert. The whole thing was weird, especially considering the pretty generous alert I had the day before that I put in the Intermediate+ Real World Videos.
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I definitely haven't lost hope in this thing yet. It's turning in some pretty insane Ka detections! I'm sure this weird K thing can be worked out. Who knows, maybe I just need to drive around by the police station in that town for a little bit tomorrow and see what happens. All I know for sure is that this is making an inevitable Genesis II purchase very appealing for some testing...
 
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I think it's the different terrains... I had meh range with k band 50% but the radar detector was on the dash because we were in VA (and it's not my car).
Terrain didn't have an affect on that alert. That was a straight shot that should have been very easy with all of those buildings for reflection, unless it wasn't C/O, or like @aim4squirrels said, he flipped it on at the last second.
 
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Decatur's K-band units seem to be fairly low output. Maybe that has something to do with it?

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Bottom line Uniden should fix the problem. The consumer should not have to dial back 50-70% in order to get the thing to shut up. If you purchased a V8 would you open the hood and pull 4 plug wires to save gas? JMHO But if this were an escort detector we would rip the crap out of them for sure...
If when dialed back it still gives you the range of the others at full sensitivity, I'd respectfully disagree. If you don't like the Uniden, then I'd do what you said you were going to do. Sell it and get something else that you better meets your needs.
 
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Bottom line Uniden should fix the problem. The consumer should not have to dial back 50-70% in order to get the thing to shut up. If you purchased a V8 would you open the hood and pull 4 plug wires to save gas? JMHO But if this were an escort detector we would rip the crap out of them for sure...
Your analogy of a car V8 is not applicable to the situation.
A radar detector is a signal receiver.
Ideally you would have incredible sensitivity to pick up the faintest signals, then dial back the sensitivity to suit the range and types of signals that you want to be receiving for practical use.
Such a device would be an impractical consumer product.
So we get these choices of detectors and features to choose from. Uniden went with extreme sensitivity and gave us the option to "tune" it for our purposes.
This perhaps is not what some users expected from ownership, they expected 100% protection and zero falses.
There are other brands that do have better anti-falsing strategies, but none offering more sensitivity.
I like the option to run 30% K band (R7) knowing I still have best in class K band range, but can hit the open road on highway mode and have the beast mode range that is available.
There is a thread in Radenso forums asking how much would you pay for top protection with zero falses.
I don't see anything in that price range in my immediate future.
 

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Your analogy of a car V8 is not applicable to the situation.
A radar detector is a signal receiver.
Ideally you would have incredible sensitivity to pick up the faintest signals, then dial back the sensitivity to suit the range and types of signals that you want to be receiving for practical use.
Such a device would be an impractical consumer product.
So we get these choices of detectors and features to choose from. Uniden went with extreme sensitivity and gave us the option to "tune" it for our purposes.
This perhaps is not what some users expected from ownership, they expected 100% protection and zero falses.
There are other brands that do have better anti-falsing strategies, but none offering more sensitivity.
I like the option to run 30% K band (R7) knowing I still have best in class K band range, but can hit the open road on highway mode and have the beast mode range that is available.
There is a thread in Radenso forums asking how much would you pay for top protection with zero falses.
I don't see anything in that price range in my immediate future.
Bottom line in my world here on the east coast in PA the R3 is a garage queen. My V8 analogy is correct I paid for top performance but need to dumb it down to even use it and only get 50% or less of the range its capable of delivering. IIt's a big time flaw with the R1 and R3 that must be addressed by Uniden. This is not a pissing match it's a fact the detector is a complete and utter squawk box unless you drive in city mode while on the highway. Zero false alerts is impossible but Uniden has some work to do on that end.
 

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Bottom line in my world here on the east coast in PA the R3 is a garage queen. My V8 analogy is correct I paid for top performance but need to dumb it down to even use it and only get 50% or less of the range its capable of delivering. IIt's a big time flaw with the R1 and R3 that must be addressed by Uniden. This is not a pissing match it's a fact the detector is a complete and utter squawk box unless you drive in city mode while on the highway. Zero false alerts is impossible but Uniden has some work to do on that end.
I understand your frustration as I had a learning curve on the R3 and now R7, but I've got things okay for my use now.
Still about maximum performance, if my motorcycle can do 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds, do I do that off of every stoplight, and every instant in driving it's WOT? Thus I think the analogy doesn't work.
Escort has for years reduced your sensitivity on auto mode and you never new how much or when unless you consult an expert like some found here.
Just sounds like the R3 is not a good fit for you or your location.
Maybe a Pro M or 360c in the future....
 
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Well, no. Ideally you would have incredible sensitivity with sufficient filtering to block false.
That was in part 2 of the equation, sensitivity and then filtering.
How much would you pay for perfect performance in both categories?
 

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I understand your frustration as I had a learning curve on the R3 and now R7, but I've got things okay for my use now.
Still about maximum performance, if my motorcycle can do 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds, do I do that off of every stoplight, and every instant in driving it's WOT? Thus I think the analogy doesn't work.
Escort has for years reduced your sensitivity on auto mode and you never new how much or when unless you consult an expert like some found here.
Just sounds like the R3 is not a good fit for you or your location.
Maybe a Pro M or 360c in the future....
I understand your frustration as I had a learning curve on the R3 and now R7, but I've got things okay for my use now.
Still about maximum performance, if my motorcycle can do 0-60 in 2.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds, do I do that off of every stoplight, and every instant in driving it's WOT? Thus I think the analogy doesn't work.
Escort has for years reduced your sensitivity on auto mode and you never new how much or when unless you consult an expert like some found here.
Just sounds like the R3 is not a good fit for you or your location.
Maybe a Pro M or 360c in the future....
I am a 55 year old detector junkie :) I own the M and yes it's a great unit for me but I like variety and no one detector can do it all. The R7 has K block which would be a big help for the R3-R1 owners. For me to drive in city mode is like being fed to the lions on a platter :)
 

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BSM filtering is the one thing that every manufacturer can stand to improve and is probably the source of the most complaints. It's particularly difficult and more acute with such a sensitive RD like the R7.

I don't think anyone is fundamentally disagreeing in that the BSM filtering needs improvement, more so saying that the extra sensitivity it was built with exaggerates an issue that's common among all RD's and that you can at least adjust that to accommodate your current driving environment. One begins to appreciate the added sensitivity when your environment changes and you can adjusts the other direction too, which is not possible with other RD's.

Using your analogy, it's not a matter pulling the plugs it's a matter of knowing when you can throw the hammer down and let it sing....
 

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