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Just picked up a CR 97, was running TSFR off X/K 3 Ka1 Max ID, and FSDr on, was traveling next to a Subaru Forester, alerted to BSM two beep with FSDr #### and then quieted down as normal, then I noticed it would switch to Ka 33.8, with no alert, still muted on FSDr, I assumed it was the well known issue where BSM alerts as Ka on the CR 97 so I ignored it, then 0.5 miles down the road there was a Idaho State Police charger running Ka 33.8 which is what the CR97 was visually alerting to but it was silenced with no auditory alerts as it was locked into the BSM of the forester. The display would ramp up Ka 33.8 but audio alert was muted. Almost got a ticket. Now I run X off K band filter 1, Ka max ID filter 1, FSDR/FSDr off, TFSR on. With TFSR off I get way too many BSM falses. FSDr causes way too many falses and randomly reports K band as Ka band as I have just learned, even silences real police Ka band alerts. It's honestly an unusable system. I hope Whistler find a fix for this.
 

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I gave my CR97 away.. to an old friend still using an old cobra model. I've had Whistler all the way back to the early 80's ..its a noise box now.. I hope its better going forward.. or works better for him..
 

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I run it with FDsR, xk2, ka1, ka max, TSFR off, but I keep it in city mode. It seems it would beep 2X any time something different is displayed. Oh boy, at least that what I think its doing. I will take a ride later & check back. Thinking about it, I notice that sometimes the red light alerts get muted. If it's muting red light alerts, I bet it would mute ka alerts, just like what happened to you. I will run it in FDSR & then FDsR to see if FDSR solves that issue. I hope FDSR won't make it beep like crazy. Keep in mind I run FDsR to minimize the k-ka mix up for bsms. If they would update this for the k-ka mix up, it really would raise my opinion of this unit greatly. The range on this blows my old Whistler XTR538 out of the water. I will report back.
 

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If that's by design then that's a poor design for sure.
 

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Just picked up a CR 97, was running TSFR off X/K 3 Ka1 Max ID, and FSDr on, was traveling next to a Subaru Forester, alerted to BSM two beep with FSDr #### and then quieted down as normal, then I noticed it would switch to Ka 33.8, with no alert, still muted on FSDr, I assumed it was the well known issue where BSM alerts as Ka on the CR 97 so I ignored it, then 0.5 miles down the road there was a Idaho State Police charger running Ka 33.8 which is what the CR97 was visually alerting to but it was silenced with no auditory alerts as it was locked into the BSM of the forester. The display would ramp up Ka 33.8 but audio alert was muted. Almost got a ticket. Now I run X off K band filter 1, Ka max ID filter 1, FSDR/FSDr off, TFSR on. With TFSR off I get way too many BSM falses. FSDr causes way too many falses and randomly reports K band as Ka band as I have just learned, even silences real police Ka band alerts. It's honestly an unusable system. I hope Whistler find a fix for this.
Actually, anything that FDSR picks up is not a false! It's sole purpose is to inform you of every BSM and pretty much any type of radar period! The problem I have with it is it also does this with legit Ka band alerts as well which sucks! Whistler really needs to fix the K-Ka mix up with these detectors because the range is really quite good for a detector in this price range. I still use mine a lot and have lots of saves with it. You can turn FDSR off and it behaves like any other detector, but it does seem to cut back on range a bit, don't ask me why!
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I gave my CR97 away.. to an old friend still using an old cobra model. I've had Whistler all the way back to the early 80's ..its a noise box now.. I hope its better going forward.. or works better for him..
Anybody else who wants to give their CR97 away feel free to PM me! I'll be glad to take them off your hands! Hell, my CR95 has gotten 35.5 from 4 miles! We still haven't tested my CR97 on our long course yet, but it will be just as good or better!
 
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Just picked up a CR 97, was running TSFR off X/K 3 Ka1 Max ID, and FSDr on, was traveling next to a Subaru Forester, alerted to BSM two beep with FSDr #### and then quieted down as normal, then I noticed it would switch to Ka 33.8, with no alert, still muted on FSDr, I assumed it was the well known issue where BSM alerts as Ka on the CR 97 so I ignored it, then 0.5 miles down the road there was a Idaho State Police charger running Ka 33.8 which is what the CR97 was visually alerting to but it was silenced with no auditory alerts as it was locked into the BSM of the forester. The display would ramp up Ka 33.8 but audio alert was muted. Almost got a ticket. Now I run X off K band filter 1, Ka max ID filter 1, FSDR/FSDr off, TFSR on. With TFSR off I get way too many BSM falses. FSDr causes way too many falses and randomly reports K band as Ka band as I have just learned, even silences real police Ka band alerts. It's honestly an unusable system. I hope Whistler find a fix for this.
I am not a fan of running FDSR/FDSr on either. My CR97 is practically unusable running FDSR/FDSr on too. Running FDSr on, my CR97 is alerting almost non stop that if I encounter real police radar, I would just ignore it. I have experimented with many filtering combinations, but I always tend to go back to running what you are running now, X/K filter-1 (I have X-band off), Ka filter - 1, Ka Max id, TFSR on, and FDSR/FDSr off.


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I am not a fan of running FDSR/FDSr on either. My CR97 is practically unusable running FDSR/FDSr on too. Running FDSr on, my CR97 is alerting almost non stop that if I encounter real police radar, I would just ignore it. I have experimented with many filtering combinations, but I always tend to go back to running what you are running now, X/K filter-1 (I have X-band off), Ka filter - 1, Ka Max id, TFSR on, and FDSR/FDSr off.


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That is exactly the setting I run as well. I leave TSFR on, I tested range with TSFR on vs off against a k band speed sign and the difference in range is pretty negligible, maybe like 50 ft difference in range. Worth it for the improvement in filtering. I know I might miss some I/O shots, but I find the Whistlers to be very sensitive to I/O so I'm hoping the average LEO will shoot I/O long enough for me to pick it up.
 

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Drove 350 miles today on the Ka hotbed of the NYS Thruway. Running the '97 several ways to see if FDSR /FDsR makes it miss things and I think it does. At first I was thinking that the silent automute FDsR was the cause but it seems like the detector is so busy reporting everything in some conditions that it seems it misses reporting a legit hit thru the junk. I shut off FDSR and just ran it with xk2/ka1/ka norm/speedfilter at 40 mph and I have to report it did a good job sniffing every ka state trooper that was in hiding. I did like the quietness without FDSR. In urban hiway situations a few quick presses of the buttons gets TFSR on when it needs it. If Whistler can come up with the k/ka bsm mix up fix, I would like alot more.
 

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That is exactly the setting I run as well. I leave TSFR on, I tested range with TSFR on vs off against a k band speed sign and the difference in range is pretty negligible, maybe like 50 ft difference in range. Worth it for the improvement in filtering. I know I might miss some I/O shots, but I find the Whistlers to be very sensitive to I/O so I'm hoping the average LEO will shoot I/O long enough for me to pick it up.
OMG ! - that's a username I havn't seen for years...I thought you left the Planet. :)
 

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I run with FDRs ON, but only because my daily commute is about 90 - 95% urban environment, and I want to "squeeze" every bit of sensitivity and range out of my CR97. We have plenty of curves and hills around, and that's where the "danger" lurks. There is one local HP who runs nothing but moving I/O.
If I am to drive on a major highway or Interstate, then the FDSr is not even an option. I have also seen where it would miss a legit source while displaying a BSM alert. Not good.
 

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OMG ! - that's a username I havn't seen for years...I thought you left the Planet. :)
Hahaha I'm back! Got infected by the countermeasure bug again!
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Also noticed today that my CR97 is falsing to all new Honda CRVs as KA band 33.8 even though I know for a fact its K band. So it bypasses the TFSR system and falses like crazy. I was going 10+ over when it went off as full blown IO Ka 9 33.8 turns out it was a stupid CRV
 
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Hahaha I'm back! Got infected by the countermeasure bug again!
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Also noticed today that my CR97 is falsing to all new Honda CRVs as KA band 33.8 even though I know for a fact its K band. So it bypasses the TFSR system and falses like crazy. I was going 10+ over when it went off as full blown IO Ka 9 33.8 turns out it was a stupid CRV
I had an Acura yesterday triggering false alert (I have FDSr ON), so it alternating between K band with #### and Ka 33.8. It was pretty annoying...
 

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Hahaha I'm back! Got infected by the countermeasure bug again!
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Also noticed today that my CR97 is falsing to all new Honda CRVs as KA band 33.8 even though I know for a fact its K band. So it bypasses the TFSR system and falses like crazy. I was going 10+ over when it went off as full blown IO Ka 9 33.8 turns out it was a stupid CRV
If you're willing to spend a few more benjamins there are much better RDs today than what you use now.
You still in CT ?
 

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If you're willing to spend a few more benjamins there are much better RDs today than what you use now.
You still in CT ?
I live 3 weeks out of the month in Idaho and 1 week out of the month in CT I fly back and forth alot. The wife is getting a PhD in Idaho and I work as an ER doctor in both states. I did pick up a Uniden DFR7 but I returned it because I did not like how insensitive it was to laser. I would shoot my laser tester directly at the Uniden and it would only go off if I was less than 6 in from it. Whereas all of my Whistlers and Beltronics will go off even when I aim and fire at 20 feet from the detector. I know that laser detection is useless on a radar detector but for some reason I seem to like detectors that are sensitive to laser. The Whistler cr97 is incredibly sensitive to laser but this K Band to ka-band confusion may drive me crazy. I have been eyeing the escort Max 360c and escort ixc. Maybe I will pick one of those up. The wife seems to be okay with my obsession with countermeasures. In Connecticut I don't really need a good radar detector because almost none of the police officers use radar. It is purely laser. However in Idaho it's a complete ka-band radar party between the sheriff's office and the local town cops and the Idaho State Police. I have seen laser exactly once in Idaho in the last 3 years.
 

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I live 3 weeks out of the month in Idaho and 1 week out of the month in CT I fly back and forth alot. The wife is getting a PhD in Idaho and I work as an ER doctor in both states. I did pick up a Uniden DFR7 but I returned it because I did not like how insensitive it was to laser. I would shoot my laser tester directly at the Uniden and it would only go off if I was less than 6 in from it. Whereas all of my Whistlers and Beltronics will go off even when I aim and fire at 20 feet from the detector. I know that laser detection is useless on a radar detector but for some reason I seem to like detectors that are sensitive to laser. The Whistler cr97 is incredibly sensitive to laser but this K Band to ka-band confusion may drive me crazy. I have been eyeing the escort Max 360c and escort ixc. Maybe I will pick one of those up. The wife seems to be okay with my obsession with countermeasures. In Connecticut I don't really need a good radar detector because almost none of the police officers use radar. It is purely laser. However in Idaho it's a complete ka-band radar party between the sheriff's office and the local town cops and the Idaho State Police. I have seen laser exactly once in Idaho in the last 3 years.
Agree 100% about CT being mostly Lidar enforcement. The Troopers have adopted a sneaky tactic the last year or so - yesterday,north of Hartford (on I-84) I saw another one shooting a TSS rearward off his Driver's door RVM. He was parked in the breakdown lane about 3/4th's of the way up one of the many rolling hills to Mass. State line.
 

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Agree 100% about CT being mostly Lidar enforcement. The Troopers have adopted a sneaky tactic the last year or so - yesterday,north of Hartford (on I-84) I saw another one shooting a TSS rearward off his Driver's door RVM. He was parked in the breakdown lane about 3/4th's of the way up one of the many rolling hills to Mass. State line.
Mirror shots are everywhere down here on I-95 and the Wilbur Cross / Merritt. I've started seeing some overpass shots too, on top of the usual suspects (hiding on on-ramps and shooting in the ass, perpendicular setups, etc.) Thank god for Waze being pretty accurate, because they're pulling out all the stops with Lidar and my college budget can't afford jammers at this time.
 

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I have also encountered CT staties shooting laser off their driver side view mirror targeting car approching them from the rear near I-84 east near the UConn Storrs exit. I thought I was going crazy when my old shifter zr4s and beltronics V995 alerted to it! I should probably buy some ALPs.
 

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