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Nice bike

X2 on the black - today guns can read dark colors
 

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Nice bike

X2 on the black - today guns can read dark colors
Today's guns can almost read the speed of a fly, through a piece of glass from a half mile away. Infrared light can practically reflect off anything.
 

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All good advice... Although Vortex doesn't ride motorcycles- several have asked about bikes on videos and threads before. So that may not be as exacting help.

It may be worthwhile to start with an ALP 3 head setup (2 standard and one TX head) setup first and figure out with that as a baseline as to what protects your bike best. Try 2 heads or 1 head/1tx up front or in back and test against guns used where you live. And then buy what you need to add to complete the system.

Where are you located if we might ask, that could steer what you should use to protect yourself. If no dragons in your area or where you plan to travel that dramatically changes your needs.

DSP vs original Netradar is a difference in range and overall performance. Vortex had a great video about them.

Additionally somewhere around here I had seen a 3D printed CPU mount for the ALP CPU. Something like that could mount VERY cleanly on the side of one of your saddlebags. Unfortunately cables are long and designed for cars so you will have to cut/splice (or re-terminate RJ ends and void warranties), have custom cables made, or find a way to cleanly coil slack.

You could always order a spare set of extension cables and just crimp new RJ ends (or find someone who can for you) to make custom short cables.

The hifi control set has a speaker connector on the control set so that's the only addition other than a speaker it offers over the standard control set. Bluetooth should do well for you unless you can connect the output to your bike sound somehow. It's a mini TRS connector is all.

If you would like to chat real-time im happy to share my own experiences in testing against several lidar guns on my own installs. Shoot me a message...
Thanks again for the help. I live in suburban Chicago. If you know the area at all my daily commute is 40 miles from Bolingbrook to Arlington Heights and all expressway. During the day I’m not as concerned be an ex-police officer im pretty aware and LIDAR isn’t an issue. I am now a finance manager at a dealership so usually leave around 11-12 at night and there is no traffic and a lot of road. I know it’s a Harley but with just Waze my best time was 27 minutes at an average speed of 83mph in 65. That is plenty of speed in Illinois to pay big because there’s 35 mph during that trip and 120mph.

I am already pushing budget so cpu is probably out of price range. Just can’t decide if I use dsp or non dsp, third party mounted radar, and lastly Bluetooth or Hi-FI.

I will definitely take you up on chat but it’s Mother’s Day and surprisingly I’m not even dumb enough to do it today.
 

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Thanks again for the help. I live in suburban Chicago. If you know the area at all my daily commute is 40 miles from Bolingbrook to Arlington Heights and all expressway. During the day I’m not as concerned be an ex-police officer im pretty aware and LIDAR isn’t an issue. I am now a finance manager at a dealership so usually leave around 11-12 at night and there is no traffic and a lot of road. I know it’s a Harley but with just Waze my best time was 27 minutes at an average speed of 83mph in 65. That is plenty of speed in Illinois to pay big because there’s 35 mph during that trip and 120mph.

I am already pushing budget so cpu is probably out of price range. Just can’t decide if I use dsp or non dsp, third party mounted radar, and lastly Bluetooth or Hi-FI.

I will definitely take you up on chat but it’s Mother’s Day and surprisingly I’m not even dumb enough to do it today.
Lol... Absolutely. Just hit me up whenever works best for you.

If you do dip into laser and feel like a road trip- I'm on the tester list out of Des Moines/Central Iowa. I have a DETC and an Ultralyte.

I will crunch some comparison numbers for you too.
 

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If you do ALP with NetRadar definitely do the DSP and not the NR-Original (non). Besides range there's many advantages to the DSP.

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Yep. With BSM being on so many cars the DSP unit will help your sanity as well as it filters out most of them.

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If you do ALP with NetRadar definitely do the DSP and not the NR-Original (non). Besides range there's many advantages to the DSP.

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Original is NOT DIGITAL
Original will NOT EVER be updated
Original will NOT have K Band Segmentation
Original NOT have many of the newer FW updates
Original WILL BE NOISER TO BS'M Falses
DSP will ALWAYS BE MORE DISTANCE
DSP will ALWAYS BE MORE QUICKER/SENSITIVE

Just yo name s few advantages.

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For Lidar, ALP is the only way to go, in my opinion. Two heads up front and two in the rear. I would use an RCM for radar (connected to the ALP for one display), or a windshield mount detector like the R3. I use the R3 on my Ducati, but only have ALPs on my Jeep. I would like to add ALPs on my Ducati, but I am out of room and out of money. :)
 

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For Lidar, ALP is the only way to go, in my opinion. Two heads up front and two in the rear. I would use an RCM for radar (connected to the ALP for one display), or a windshield mount detector like the R3. I use the R3 on my Ducati, but only have ALPs on my Jeep. I would like to add ALPs on my Ducati, but I am out of room and out of money. :)
Thing is you lose LIDAR gun ID announcements with the RCM if I recall correctly. So yes the Netradar DSP may not be as good against BSMs but it still lets you keep the ID which is important for a lot of us! I concur on the motorcycle part. I just ran a 1 TX/1 RX front, rear 1 RX and NR DSP, etc. setup on my Suzuki and the amount of wires alone will fill the little space Ducati gives you under the seat 5 times over! :bump:
 

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For what it's worth, I have the V1 B/T'ed to my helmet via JBV1. When I get an alert, it takes a fraction of a second to see where the alert is coming on the phone from as I roll off the throttle ready to brake.
If you're travelling at a speed in traffic that makes that impossible, you have more serious issues ahead than a speeding ticket.
 

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Update: Adaptiv has just released (this coming week) a new lidar jammer for motorcycles that is only ~$500, is waterproof, and tested well against most guns. I just ordered one.

Check out... Laser Jammer Shootout: ALP vs. Escort ShifterMax vs. Stinger Fiber vs. TMG vs. K40 Defuser Optix vs. Adaptiv TPX

Holy crap. I haven’t even looked yet but if this is true I could reach through the internet and kiss you!!!

I’ve taken everyone’s advice and was just saving because unfortunately timing was tough. This hopefully changes everything.
-- Double Post Merged: --
So I immediately went searching but can’t find the TPX anywhere to purchase. Where were you able to order them?
 
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Holy crap. I haven’t even looked yet but if this is true I could reach through the internet and kiss you!!!

I’ve taken everyone’s advice and was just saving because unfortunately timing was tough. This hopefully changes everything.
-- Double Post Merged: --
So I immediately went searching but can’t find the TPX anywhere to purchase. Where were you able to order them?
I used the links from Vortex's post. The product has not been officially announced yet, but should show up this week.
 
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