Uniden R7 and Radenso Pro M vs MRCD (1 Viewer)

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I'm curious, have you tested with AL Priority, would that work against the Mesta Fusion?

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Isn’t MRCD not used in West Virginia? I just picked it up twice from troopers on 77N. Is there an area on this forum to report sightings like this so others know to watch out for it? (New member, sorry!)
 

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Isn’t MRCD not used in West Virginia? I just picked it up twice from troopers on 77N. Is there an area on this forum to report sightings like this so others know to watch out for it? (New member, sorry!)
Using the R7? It alerts everything low modulated powered as MRCD. It can’t tell the difference.

MRCD/ MRCT is stationary when in use. We have mobile MRCD but the MRCT we have is strictly RLC.

There’s a quite a few things that will cause MRCT false’s.
 

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My findings with the R3 is that the K Filter negatively impacts the MRCD performance (even with K band off).

Got a non scientific test done with R3 and ProM and they proof to be very similar and consistant in range.

Would be great to see this retested with K filter off.
 

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My findings with the R3 is that the K Filter negatively impacts the MRCD performance (even with K band off).

Got a non scientific test done with R3 and ProM and they proof to be very similar and consistant in range.

Would be great to see this retested with K filter off.

This test only includes the Uniden R7 and Radenso Pro M and even with the K filter disabled, the R7 will still not have reliable MRCD detection. Although Uniden is working hard to fix this.

The Uniden R3 on firmware 1.46 has decent MRCD detection but does have a hardware restriction preventing it from scanning below 24.050. Which means it will miss some MRCD units as they operate below that frequency. Firmware 1.46 also has a pretty bad K band delay which can be concerning if you face K band daily. On firmware 1.48, MRCD range is completely inconsistent and more times than not it will alert in the kill zone. This was the case even with the K filter disabled. If you plan on testing the Uniden R3, I would recommend making a different thread as this one is for the R7 and Pro M only.
 
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This test only includes the Uniden R7 and Radenso Pro M and even with the K filter disabled, the R7 will still not have reliable MRCD detection. Although Uniden is working hard to fix this.

The Uniden R3 on firmware 1.46 has decent MRCD detection but does have a hardware restriction preventing it from scanning below 24.050. Which means it will miss some MRCD units as they operate below that frequency. Firmware 1.46 also has a pretty bad K band delay which can be concerning if you face K band daily. On firmware 1.48, MRCD range is completely inconsistent and more times than not it will alert in the kill zone. This was the case even with the K filter disabled. If you plan on testing the Uniden R3, I would recommend making a different thread as this one is for the R7 and Pro M only.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread or question your findings with the R7. I just wanted to share that since I use the R3 I noticed quite a difference in having the k filter on, even with k band disabled (wierd?) on MRCD range.

Maybe, just maybe, this could be the same with the R7.
Since I didn't see any test with K filter off I figure I could share this with you.

My final intention is to get a R7 because of the R3 hardware limitation, but would like to see the R7 perform at least as good as the R3.
 

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Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread or question your findings with the R7. I just wanted to share that since I use the R3 I noticed quite a difference in having the k filter on, even with k band disabled (wierd?) on MRCD range.

Maybe, just maybe, this could be the same with the R7.
Since I didn't see any test with K filter off I figure I could share this with you.

My final intention is to get a R7 because of the R3 hardware limitation, but would like to see the R7 perform at least as good as the R3.

Thanks for sharing your findings. It's not the same as the R7. I've tried every single setting combination. I would suggest including which firmware version you are using as each version is very different if you decide to make another thread.
 

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This thread makes me very happy to have recently purchased a Pro M. I will use it for all my travels out of town and into the Alberta MRCD hotzone.
Too bad every day use is for my wife. The low user need for interaction makes it perfect for her, only auto lockouts would make that even better.
My new R3 is so I can use on the motorcycle with audio jack.
After a difficult first week of coming to terms with the Uniden falses I have settings and lockouts configured for a very pleasurable drive. It has become enjoyable for me as I enjoy the interaction. A few beeps here and there help keep my attention on the bike. In the truck I prefer a little more quiet, but is decent now.
R7 in my future?
If MRCD gets tuned to better compete with Radenso, yes.
However, if Pro M comes out with Bluetooth or audio out for helmet speakers that would be tough to ignore.
And arrows, I see that being a killer feature on a bike because you really have to watch the traffic and not as easy to search as when in a car.
MRCD and similar enforcement is only going to expand. Best to think about the most future proof devices available.
 

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has any testing been done since the latest firmware?

also wondering if k narrow would gimp the MRCD low end, or if turning MRCD on automatically scans that lower k freq. range
 

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I believe K narrow works just fine with MRCD on.
I upgraded my R3 to an R7.
I'm running K wide as I'm still discovering what LEO use in my areas is.
Recently turned on MRCD and TSR off for giggles and no extra falsing or BSMs yet.
Pro M continues to be trouble free even though I increased A-C K sensitivity and TSR to low instead of high. The wife says no different than before with more filtering.
When in Edmonton and GP I will use Pro M set to Heywood settings for MRCD protection.
Don't need it yet here but starting to show up this summer throughout BC.
 

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This test only includes the Uniden R7 and Radenso Pro M and even with the K filter disabled, the R7 will still not have reliable MRCD detection. Although Uniden is working hard to fix this.

The Uniden R3 on firmware 1.46 has decent MRCD detection but does have a hardware restriction preventing it from scanning below 24.050. Which means it will miss some MRCD units as they operate below that frequency. Firmware 1.46 also has a pretty bad K band delay which can be concerning if you face K band daily. On firmware 1.48, MRCD range is completely inconsistent and more times than not it will alert in the kill zone. This was the case even with the K filter disabled. If you plan on testing the Uniden R3, I would recommend making a different thread as this one is for the R7 and Pro M only.
Does it affect MRCD/MRCT detection performance whatever you are running K Wide or Narrow? (R1, firmware 1.46) Also, multaradar is constantly changing frequency, this should make it visible for hardware-limited devices too, no? Even if multaradar operates under 24.050, shouldn't frequency swapping make it visible if frequency is changed for a moment above 24.050?
 

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The K band setting doesn’t have any impact on the MRCD detection as far as I can see on any of the Unidens.

Neither does City/Highway/ Advanced 100

MRCD runs 4 separate channels. They switch very quickly. Even if the frequency is in the wheelhouse of the R3, the closer it is to 24.050, the harder it is for the R3 to see it.

The Mesta Fusion RLC’s are worse. More than 4 frequencies and shift at such a high rate, even the best detectors are guessing what it is
 
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The K band setting doesn’t have any impact on the MRCD detection as far as I can see on any of the Unidens.

Neither does City/Highway/ Advanced 100

MRCD runs 4 separate channels. They switch very quickly. Even if the frequency is in the wheelhouse of the R3, the closer it is to 24.050, the harder it is for the R3 to see it.
ah, so even running k @ 30% in adv. with k narrow shouldn't hamper the range on MRCD. good to know. I'll go back to k narrow now.

I'm using an R7 now, so i was concerned that k-narrow would cut off a good chunk of the low end that MRCD can be operating on, but if MRCD = ON still scans those freqs anyway, i think I'm good.
 
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The K band setting doesn’t have any impact on the MRCD detection as far as I can see on any of the Unidens.

Neither does City/Highway/ Advanced 100

MRCD runs 4 separate channels. They switch very quickly. Even if the frequency is in the wheelhouse of the R3, the closer it is to 24.050, the harder it is for the R3 to see it.
Yes it would surely result in reduced range, if unit has some channels that operate below 24.050, but it is still possible for R1 to detect that MRCD before kill zone, thanks to frequency swapping, no?
 

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Yes it would surely result in reduced range, if unit has some channels that operate below 24.050, but it is still possible for R1 to detect that MRCD before kill zone, thanks to frequency swapping, no?
Yes and no. That’s part of the problem with the R3/R1. It was never meant to be used for MRCD/MRCT. They deserve a lot of credit to actually do it.

The reduced range isn’t only where it is in the frequency range. It’s a very narrow beam and very low powered. It’s also pointed away from you.

It’s also switching so quickly, that if some of the frequency goes below 24.050 for even half of the of the 4, the detection is missed or barely picked up. It’s a combination of things that make it deadly.

It’s worse in cold weather. The MRCD antenna is outside all the time. The cold weather drives the frequency lower and lower.

I think the best direction I ever got was 1600 feet with a pro-m.

I did a MRCD shootout back in October 2018 and February 2019. That’s how we found out how bad Uniden messed up 1.48 in relation to MRCD detection.
 

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I'm in the area and I have the NetRadar DSP if you wanted to throw that into the mix of testing. Just send me a PM. I'm going to finish reading through this thread now..
 

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I'm in the area and I have the NetRadar DSP if you wanted to throw that into the mix of testing. Just send me a PM. I'm going to finish reading through this thread now..
That would be fun, but it’s more of an opportunity than something I can setup.

I’m in the enviable situation where I have 7 normal MRCD hot zones where I can find a trap that’s good for making multiple runs. If I’m free, and I see them setting up, I’ll start making some runs.

They only stay in one spot for about 2 hours, then they move. It kind of screws up the test results when they move locations. Try to find a location that’s easy to make multiple loops. A dash cam with GPS coordinates really helps in conjunction with the App to get fairly decent measurement.

You should try it yourself. You can get some great measurements using the Planometer app the with the dash cam.

Keep in mind. The Net DSP has the same limitations as the R1 and R3. Shouldn’t be as big of a problem when it’s warmer, but Edmonton does have a couple of units that do shoot that low, or lower, regardless of temperature.

The more testers the better. Especially on the remote side.
 

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That would be fun, but it’s more of an opportunity than something I can setup.

I’m in the enviable situation where I have 7 normal MRCD hot zones where I can find a trap that’s good for making multiple runs. If I’m free, and I see them setting up, I’ll start making some runs.

They only stay in one spot for about 2 hours, then they move. It kind of screws up the test results when they move locations. Try to find a location that’s easy to make multiple loops. A dash cam with GPS coordinates really helps in conjunction with the App to get fairly decent measurement.

You should try it yourself. You can get some great measurements using the Planometer app the with the dash cam.

Keep in mind. The Net DSP has the same limitations as the R1 and R3. Shouldn’t be as big of a problem when it’s warmer, but Edmonton does have a couple of units that do shoot that low, or lower, regardless of temperature.

The more testers the better. Especially on the remote side.
I don't have a dashcam, that's probably one of my next purchases. I'll start keeping an eye out for these kind of things, never really thought about doing things with speed trucks. I guess they bring the speed measuring equipment for the testing meet.
 

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