Uniden R7 and Radenso Pro M vs MRCD (1 Viewer)

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Alright, I did 3 runs per detector against this MRCD trap. My plan is to attempt and do 3 runs every time I encounter an MRCD vehicle for the next week using the Pro M and R7.


Here is the MRCD trap from today.

mrcd testing.JPG


Detectors:

Uniden R7
  • City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111
Radenso Pro M
  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16
Videos:

Uniden R7:


Radenso Pro M:




I was lucky enough to encounter some Ka while I was doing MRCD testing as well. I was not impressed by the R7 because Ka overrides any MRCD alert and will not notify you. The Pro M handles these two threats like a champ. MRCD should be prioritized the same way laser is.

R7 -

Pro M -


Conclusions:

IMHO the Uniden R7 definitely has some work to do if it wants to hang with the competition. I find the detection range far too inconsistent not to mention the fact it will sometimes confuse MRCD alerts for K band. The Uniden R7 currently does not give me the level of confidence I have with the Radenso Pro M. Uniden has stated they are working diligently towards improving MRCD detection.




EDIT:

Here is another MRCD trap I encountered.

mrcd truck.JPG


Radenso Pro M:

  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16

Uniden R7:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111

Uniden R7 with K band disabled:

  • Highway
  • Ka on
  • K OFF
  • Ka narrow
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111

R7 - MRCD and K band mute memory:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111
Hard to see, but the MRCD truck is detected as K band around the 27-second mark but it is mute memoried.




EDIT 2:

course.JPG


Radenso Pro M
  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16


Uniden R7
  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111



EDIT 3:

This will be my final MRCD comparison test with the R7 and Pro M. Once Uniden releases new firmware fixing the issues I will retest.


course.JPG


Radenso Pro M
  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16

Uniden R7
  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111
 
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Nice testing, I see the same thing with MRCT.

The Pro M will MRCT false a hell of a lot more from K systems on cars while the R7 will not at all. However, the M is far more consistent with its performance. Sometimes the R7 will match the Pro M, but more often than not it alerts much later.

Hopefully Uniden can improve the performance consistency and issue with K/MRCD confusion without causing the R7 to MRCD false to K system on cars.

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Nice testing, I see the same thing with MRCT.

The Pro M will MRCT false a hell of a lot more from K systems on cars while the R7 will not at all. However, the M is far more consistent with its performance. Sometimes the R7 will match the Pro M, but more often than not it alerts much later.

Hopefully Uniden can improve the performance consistency and issue with K/MRCD confusion without causing the R7 to MRCD false to K system on cars.

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Funny enough in my current environment I actually think the R7 falses more than the Pro M (R7 will false to our speed signs but the Pro M will not.). Which is probably due to the fact I am not seeing nearly as much traffic density as you are. I see maybe 2-3 falses with the R7 and usually only 1 a day with the Pro M.
 

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Wow, looking at you results map, that's a pretty stark difference, not to mention the Ka override aspect. Does City Mode reduce MRCD detection range as well?
From all my runs, I have not noticed a difference. I've tried highway, city and advanced but it still does not give me extra range.
 

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Funny enough in my current environment I actually think the R7 falses more than the Pro M (R7 will false to our speed signs but the Pro M will not.). Which is probably due to the fact I am not seeing nearly as much traffic density as you are. I see maybe 2-3 falses with the R7 and usually only 1 a day with the Pro M.
Ah yeah, I forget you guys have that issue with your speed signs. Haven't seen that yet in the areas I drive down here, got lucky with that one. I pick up our redlight camera systems which are multaradar systems from the highway when driving out of the city so Ive had to lock those out.

Different ballgame since your threats are mobile!

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I guess I'll be waiting for radenso to come out with a new detector arrows a MRCD is used in Chicago hopefully it does not come out here in the suburbs

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Nice testing @Dukes. Once my New Redline EX gets here, and I’m sure it works, I’ll have to barrow your R7 for another MRCD shoot out.

I guess I'll be waiting for radenso to come out with a new detector arrows a MRCD is used in Chicago hopefully it does not come out here in the suburbs
Your seeing MRCT. The Unidens can not, and do not show the difference or able to control the 2 bands (MRCD & MRCT) separately like the Radenso’s and the Redline EX.

Lucky for Illinois residents, yours are stationary and high up for the time being. We do have those units here as well in the city, but 90% of them are in the RLC data base. The intersections are marked with signage just as yours are suppose to be looking at Illinois State law regarding Photo radar cameras. The Vision Zero Project. I looked it up.

The R3 had the same hiccup leading up to FW 1.46. It’s an easy fix for Attowave. Moving MRCD/MRCT detection above Ka Band.

As for MRCT noise. I turn it off on my other detectors as I find it too noisy on the Pro-M. It could use a little refinement.
 

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thank for your testing , to be fair though, if KA is blaring full alert why would you speed though? I believe KA to be a bigger threat than MRCD simply because at least with MRCD you do not get to have a chat with a road side tax collector, also KA is a threat in both directions at a much longer range.

So I think KA should be prioritized

As far as the range of the R7 on MRCD.. yeah definetily not enough, how many people slam on the brakes on K band,it would take you at least 3 seconds to see the warning, evaluate it as a valid threat and slow down.

I am confident Uniden will work on it.

I am glad we don't have MRCD in Florida.
 

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Ouch, not a good showing for the R7. Glad I don't see that stuff around here. Is MRCD mostly in residential-ish neighborhoods? Not on highways?
 

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thank for your testing , to be fair though, if KA is blaring full alert why would you speed though? I believe KA to be a bigger threat than MRCD simply because at least with MRCD you do not get to have a chat with a road side tax collector, also KA is a threat in both directions at a much longer range.

So I think KA should be prioritized

As far as the range of the R7 on MRCD.. yeah definetily not enough, how many people slam on the brakes on K band,it would take you at least 3 seconds to see the warning, evaluate it as a valid threat and slow down.

I am confident Uniden will work on it.

I am glad we don't have MRCD in Florida.
MRCD needs to override KA because the detection distance is so incredibly short. I would rather know about an active MRCD trap on the road I am on than the Ka alert coming from 5 blocks over. Especially since I am only getting 200-meter MRCD detections with the Pro M. Plus add in the fact that MRCD ticket threshold is lower than what actual police officers will ticket you for.
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Ouch, not a good showing for the R7. Glad I don't see that stuff around here. Is MRCD mostly in residential-ish neighborhoods? Not on highways?
Yep mostly residential but once in a blue moon, you'll see it on the highway. Normally they use the DragonCam on the highways.
 
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KA override could also be speed-based, like low-speed muting. Prioritize KA at speeds greater than (variable could be set to 25,35,45...)

Just a thought.
 

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MRCD needs to override KA because the detection distance is so incredibly short. I would rather know about an active MRCD trap on the road I am on than the Ka alert coming from 5 blocks over. Especially since I am only getting 200-meter MRCD detections with the Pro M. Plus add in the fact that MRCD ticket threshold is lower than what actual police officers will ticket you for.
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Yep mostly residential but once in a blue moon, you'll see it on the highway. Normally they use the DragonCam on the highways.
The R7's performance against MRCD's is concerning on several accounts. The first two runs were right before the kill zone and you would have no chance if you were going well over the PSL. Likewise the inconsistency in detecting MRCD's is concerning as well. I agree MRCD detection should be prioritized due to the short detection distance. The Pro M is definitely the way to go to if you drive in an MRCD infested area.

Thanks for the videos and the guy in the truck was probably thinking wtf is this guy doing driving up and the street 10 times.
 

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interesting results with two good detectors. do you have an XP @Dukes ? now that i think about it, i dont think it has the same capabilities though,
No. Neither does the RPSE. The Pro-M and RC-M are the only 2 that do it in their line up.

thank for your testing , to be fair though, if KA is blaring full alert why would you speed though? I believe KA to be a bigger threat than MRCD simply because at least with MRCD you do not get to have a chat with a road side tax collector, also KA is a threat in both directions at a much longer range.

So I think KA should be prioritized
Here’s the problem with that line of thought.

With a regular Leo stop, you know right away. Instantly. They run out. Pull you over. Check your documents.

With the way our MRCD is deployed, where they hide and move every 2 hours, you could drive through that trap multiple times in a week and not know. 2 or 3 weeks later, the tickets start showing up in the mail.

Photo Dragon Eye is worse because there is no tell tale flash of a strobe light for the rear plate.

It’s the same with MRCT at intersections. They’re a little easier and mark. They don’t move.

I’m not going over the way the fines are enforced. You can’t ignore the fine or you won’t be driving.
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do U think the results are kinda expected with the fw. The r7 is essential 2-r3 but with better hardware for mrcd. However given reports that bsm falsing is the same as the r3. Doesn’t seem like they spent their time improving from the r3 programming vs getting the arrows and stuff to work

So given time. Software should improve things. Yes?no?
 

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I think it might? Hard to say.

Remember they ran the R7 out for the 1st quarter financial reports.

I’d say from the limited amount I’ve seen here, there’s room for improvement. Now it’s up to Attowave to tweak it to suit the NA market with the extreme amount of help from the RDF beta testers and Tom.
 

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I think this is pretty much to be expected right now. It's basically acting like an R1 or R3. The only difference is this one can go lower. If they would have had the R1 and R3 figured out before the release of the R7, I could see this as being very disappointing but they didn't so I wasn't really expecting some kind of magic sauce. The firmware isn't divergent enough yet to give us wildly different results. It seems they really need to do some more work in this area but they have all the hardware they need to make it happen now. I'm pretty confident that they will eventually get it.

Thanks for the testing Dukes! I'm glad I don't face this stuff but I'm pulling for you guys and hope that Uniden can get this corrected soon.
 
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Here is another trap from tonight. Updated OP to include this as well.


mrcd truck.JPG


Radenso Pro M:

  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16



Uniden R7:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111


Uniden R7 with K band disabled:

  • Highway
  • Ka on
  • K OFF
  • Ka narrow
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111


R7 - MRCD and K band mute memory:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111

Hard to see, but the MRCD truck is detected as K band around the 27-second mark but it is mute memoried.

 

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Here is another trap from tonight. Updated OP to include this as well.


View attachment 116807

Radenso Pro M:

  • Auto City
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TS Rej High
  • MRCD Narrow
  • MR Filter High
  • Current Public firmware - US16

Uniden R7:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111

Uniden R7 with K band disabled:

  • Highway
  • Ka on
  • K OFF
  • Ka narrow
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111

R7 - MRCD and K band mute memory:

  • Highway
  • Ka and K band on
  • Ka narrow
  • K wide
  • Ka filter off
  • TSF OFF and K filter on
  • MRCD on
  • Current Public firmware - 122.123.111
Hard to see, but the MRCD truck is detected as K band around the 27-second mark but it is mute memoried.

Definitely not looking good for the R7 and hopefully these issues will be addressed in an upcoming FW update. The alert should be changed from "MRCD rear" to "you'll be getting it in the rear" since detecting an MRCD after you pass by won't do you any good aside from notifying you of an upcoming ticket.
 

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