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I know LI is dead at this point, but in the interest of keeping accurate information on the forum I'm calling bullshit on the broad "LI sucks in the sun" claims. We tested LIs for years in many different scenarios including attempts to blind it with the sun and we saw no issues. Unless there was a late firmware update to address VPS guns that made the LI more susceptible to sun problems, my money would be on a defective system or the gun operator getting a speed on a different car and confusing it with @corkguykev
Right before I removed the LI's from my car, I was on my way to Windsor CT in the wee morning hours when the sun was just coming up. It was enough to blind me if I faced it without a visor or sunglasses. Upon starting up the car, I was getting errors from my sensors. I forgot what the error was but it kept coming up. I turned off the LI's and turned them back on again, same error. Okay, concidence? So I left the LI's off until I turned into a gas station with an overhang and turned them on. No more errors. Just to be sure, cycled the power and still no error. Take this with a grain of salt though.
 

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Right before I removed the LI's from my car, I was on my way to Windsor CT in the wee morning hours when the sun was just coming up. It was enough to blind me if I faced it without a visor or sunglasses. Upon starting up the car, I was getting errors from my sensors. I forgot what the error was but it kept coming up. I turned off the LI's and turned them back on again, same error. Okay, concidence? So I left the LI's off until I turned into a gas station with an overhang and turned them on. No more errors. Just to be sure, cycled the power and still no error. Take this with a grain of salt though.
It definitely wouldn't surprise me if this could happen under very specific circumstances; however, with how many years LI was top dog, used by many, and tested extensively, if "this system was blind to the sun" we would've figured it out much sooner.
 

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LI is blind to the sun some what, but ALP and TMG are not.
That's correct. I know a guy that knows a guy. He drives a HAYUBUSA . Apparently he simply vanishes into another dimension.
 

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I know LI is dead at this point, but in the interest of keeping accurate information on the forum I'm calling bullshit on the broad "LI sucks in the sun" claims. We tested LIs for years in many different scenarios including attempts to blind it with the sun and we saw no issues. Unless there was a late firmware update to address VPS guns that made the LI more susceptible to sun problems, my money would be on a defective system or the gun operator getting a speed on a different car and confusing it with @corkguykev
Let me be more clear. Lis were awesome even into sun and jamming no issues. after 2 years, the lens or whatever needed replacing or cpu bad? tried settings...no go. ( NO CUST. SERVICE AFTER 2014 EITHER)
if sun hit the laser int. they would false everytime so i would use only at night/cloudy day. If they werent falsing then they worked great....better....make more sense.
 

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I wouldnt touch LI ever again. Between the sun issues, lack of customer care(after 2014)
buying and wasting money on Li bluetooth they sold but never worked....let I digress.... And the sun....it should be called "use at night only" Anyways Past is past, much better jammers in my opinion with excellent customer service. TMG awesome!!
Completely depends on the user. If you have easy to jam guns in your area, a car that's easy to cover, a $250 laser jammer setup is going to have instant ROI vs a $1200 TMG or ALP setup the first time you get a ticket.
 

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Completely depends on the user. If you have easy to jam guns in your area, a car that's easy to cover, a $250 laser jammer setup is going to have instant ROI vs a $1200 TMG or ALP setup the first time you get a ticket.
I am still using LI in North Wast Ohio. Never had any Sun issues, and only question still unanswered is weather the LI will handle Tru Cams in use around Toledo. I did get hit on the rear by Tru Cam about six months ago but it was on a curve and I was going +25 all leaned over and the LI alerted but I could not see the motor officers location. So time will tell, saving for ALP system. Being used on BMW Sport Bike as info.
 

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Hi guys, it's been waay too long since I was on here last. Been through a lot of crap etc but I'm still going lol.

That was until this morning here. I got nailed by a front hit and while the Beltronics sti r plus alerted to the hit, the LI did not.

I was hit quite a distance from the shooter. Possibly up to a quarter of a mile or 400 metres away.

The gun was a LTI Ultralyte which was on a tripod and they used to be 100pps versions over here back when I was running the LPP which alerted differently to that variant. Can't say for sure if they're still running those now but still definitely a UL though.

The sun was in the direction I was heading and it was around midday when I was tagged.

I have been running this particular LI since February 2013 and I got it from Cliff back then IIRC.

The weird thing is that I only did a static test (shot the car with jammer running in a car park) at around 50 metres away a week ago and it was successfully jamming the gun from getting a 0 kmh reading that was being obtained by the gun when the LI was off.

Does anyone have any idea what happened to me today? I'm pretty disappointed with the experience but I suppose I did get over 6 years out of the LI, although, I was rarely hit during this time though.

I would love to hear back from you guys cos I'm a bit out of the loop here now and it could have been any one of a number of reasons that I have either forgotten about or just don'tknow about now that caused this.

Looking forward to hearing from you and thanks in advance.

CGK
my LI went the same way heads become week over time i have a feeling with mine the heads are sun damaged long parking periods direct sunlight
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my LI went the same way heads become week over time i have a feeling with mine the heads are sun damaged long parking periods direct sunlight
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i mainly found the detection decreased they dont perform the same as they did new
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I know LI is dead at this point, but in the interest of keeping accurate information on the forum I'm calling bullshit on the broad "LI sucks in the sun" claims. We tested LIs for years in many different scenarios including attempts to blind it with the sun and we saw no issues. Unless there was a late firmware update to address VPS guns that made the LI more susceptible to sun problems, my money would be on a defective system or the gun operator getting a speed on a different car and confusing it with @corkguykev
i agree about keeping accurate information
im also calling bullshit is there any tests to prove that its still jams efficiently while the LI warns of the following

(interferiance from sun detected please proceed with caution )
 
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my LI went the same way heads become week over time i have a feeling with mine the heads are sun damaged long parking periods direct sunlight
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ps edit as i timed out lol
i mainly found the detection decreased they dont perform the same as they did new
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i agree about keeping accurate information
im also calling bullshit is there any tests to prove that its still jams efficiently while the LI warns of the following

(interferiance from sun detected please proceed with caution )
in the countermeasure testing section, a post shows the laser interceptor jamming effectively except the dragon eye. I still use them, even though I have alp for extended trips. We only have the LTI stuff here, and truspeed in my city. It detects and stops them fine with 8.20 firmware.It also detected some camera in a rural part of ohio and jammed it. My sensitivity is set to just the point it barely falses to sun. I have heard some tru speed firware version it will detect but the laser gun ignores the laser interceptor. No video on that though. Also something hit the car it made a siren noise a few times lol. Alignment is critical, 8.20 is critical, sensitivity is critical,PROPER LOCATION IS CRITICAL.
 
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in the countermeasure testing section, a post shows the laser interceptor jamming effectively except the dragon eye. I still use them, even though I have alp for extended trips. We only have the LTI stuff here, and truspeed in my city. It detects and stops them fine with 8.20 firmware.It also detected some camera in a rural part of ohio and jammed it. My sensitivity is set to just the point it barely falses to sun. I have heard some tru speed firware version it will detect but the laser gun ignores the laser interceptor. No video on that though. Also something hit the car it made a siren noise a few times lol. Alignment is critical, 8.20 is critical, sensitivity is critical,PROPER LOCATION IS CRITICAL.
are you saying you have 2 different types of jammers one for long trips one for short trips ? do you have 2 different vehicles or is this on one vehicle ? this could explain a few falses your expereincing

as for location critical alignment critical how do you know this when you mentioned it detected and jammed some camera .....this camera must have a name ? firstly i think you need to know what your dealing with before critical installiation guide
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are you saying you have 2 different types of jammers one for long trips one for short trips ? do you have 2 different vehicles or is this on one vehicle ?

as for location critical alignment critical how do you know this when you mentioned it detected and jammed some camera .....this camera must have a name ? firstly i think you need to know what your dealing with before critical installiation guide
 
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are you saying you have 2 different types of jammers one for long trips one for short trips ? do you have 2 different vehicles or is this on one vehicle ? this could explain a few falses your expereincing

as for location critical alignment critical how do you know this when you mentioned it detected and jammed some camera .....this camera must have a name ? firstly i think you need to know what your dealing with before critical installiation guide
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Yes. The laser interceptor is used just in my city on one car. When I travel, alp is used. The camera was just a poliscan toll camera it alerted to I believe.
 

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Yes. The laser interceptor is used just in my city on one car. When I travel, alp is used. The camera was just a poliscan toll camera it alerted to I believe.
does one vehicle share both LI and ALP ?
 
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It definitely wouldn't surprise me if this could happen under very specific circumstances; however, with how many years LI was top dog, used by many, and tested extensively, if "this system was blind to the sun" we would've figured it out much sooner.
LI was top dog but now the ALP is top dog as it now jams the dragon on a correct head set etc


here is a screen shot of the low sun im against ......just wondering would this hinder any jammer performance even if the jammer was on a lookup table type jammer ?

sun.png
 
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Oh yes... Noise is much higher and it's more difficult to detect.
 

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