Detailed redflex vs radar detector testing- R7 + others

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Thanks! There is Redflex speed cam on every major intersection in my town

That was very helpful!
 

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Thanks! There is Redflex speed cam on every major intersection in my town

That was very helpful!
im guessing from the flag you are out of the usa, sounds like they like those redflex there
 

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That was actually an informative and well done test. Good job Bob!

As for the new detector, from the sound of it, it sounds like a Beltronics detector without arrows.
 

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As for the new detector, from the sound of it, it sounds like a Beltronics detector without arrows.

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It's actually not the "first of it's kind" test. I know VG likes to be "first" with things ... but he's about 9 years late to claim "first" to test against Redflex threats.

Here's my 2010 Redflex test video, with the only equipment I had on hand at the time; an Escort 8500 and Whistler. This was before I got more seriously into testing. And I'm sure others did testing again Redflex before I did.

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But credit where credit is due....VG did a nice job with his test; a lot of detectors, lots of great info, and although I didn't have time to watch the whole video I enjoyed watching what I did.
 

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Decent test and informative, however I think there has to be either a false source later in the second video or some settings off a bit.

I just can't believe the Whistler that barely alerted head-on to the radar (R7 had farthest alert) but then alerted on the back side by more than the front side (to which the R7 or R3 didn't alert at all), I am not sure what I believe on that.

There were some strange alert distances that didn't make sense to me on the back side runs. Is it a radar characteristic, a false source, or detector fault? BSM K filter effect?
 
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You cant take this video on for any of results because in the real world you are swamped with false k band signals from hundreds of sources on the road.
So if you leave your TSR, TMF, K narrow off, your detectors will beep constantly and if you turn on k band filtering you will either get no alert or ticket notification alert from Redflex system.
Calgary is the worst from my perspective because it shoots rear shots so detection is ober-crappy.
 

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There is also a new bsm feature not tested that the beta team has,that might change things a bit. Great testing though on Redflex, i hate em !
 

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I wonder what the new detector is...
I wonder if it's undetectable by RDD's?
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My locals... that's just a plain looking car too. No markings to show it's police. Looks like any other car you'd see on the street except for the front. Catches you both ways, but once you've passed it travelling in the same direction the cars facing, you'll only know by looking in your rear view and by that time they already have you. It's real difficult and you have to be well aware.
 
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You cant take this video on for any of results because in the real world you are swamped with false k band signals from hundreds of sources on the road.
So if you leave your TSR, TMF, K narrow off, your detectors will beep constantly and if you turn on k band filtering you will either get no alert or ticket notification alert from Redflex system.
Calgary is the worst from my perspective because it shoots rear shots so detection is ober-crappy.
Absolutely it’s worse in Calgary, but that doesn’t mean you “can’t take this video on for any of results”. I think the test was (surprisingly) well done and does have relevance for those individuals who see Redflex in that particular state. Would the results be different for Calgary? Absolutely, because as you pointed out it’s forward facing only. So I don’t think it’s a case one “one size fits all”. Different environments and different threats are treated differently.
 

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Decent test and informative, however I think there has to be either a false source later in the second video or some settings off a bit.

I just can't believe the Whistler that barely alerted head-on to the radar (R7 had farthest alert) but then alerted on the back side by more than the front side (to which the R7 or R3 didn't alert at all), I am not sure what I believe on that.

There were some strange alert distances that didn't make sense to me on the back side runs. Is it a radar characteristic, a false source, or detector fault? BSM K filter effect?
i think he was watching the frequency which stayed consistent with the reflex. The higher frequencies i believe he said were false alerts. ill have to go back in and watch it again when my day slows down.
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It's actually not the "first of it's kind" test. I know VG likes to be "first" with things ... but he's about 9 years late to claim "first" to test against Redflex threats.

Here's my 2010 Redflex test video, with the only equipment I had on hand at the time; an Escort 8500 and Whistler. This was before I got more seriously into testing. And I'm sure others did testing again Redflex before I did.

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But credit where credit is due....VG did a nice job with his test; a lot of detectors, lots of great info, and although I didn't have time to watch the whole video I enjoyed watching what I did.
this might be partially my fault. He asked me if i have ever seen a test like this and i havent. however, even though I have used radar detectors since I was 18, I had no clue how involved it was until I started working here, so maybe 4 years ish I think. Very deadly guns for sure. i'm thankful they arent in kansas, yet :)
 
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Yes very deadly. Fortunately I've only seen them in a couple places (Zachary LA and Union City, MO) and they kind of stand out like dog's balls and hard to miss. Not like the ones in Canada - much more covert and a real nightmare. The ones Insee are white Ford Escapes with the antennas and lights on the roof. See one and slow down no matter what your detector says (or doesn't say). Last time I drove through Union City I saw one and slowed down. And my NetRadar DSP in K wide didn't alert to it so I assumed it just wasn't operating.
 

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Looks like he's on Thunderbird Ave in El Mirage AZ. I've seen that SUV parked in that same spot before.
 

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i think he was watching the frequency which stayed consistent with the reflex. The higher frequencies i believe he said were false alerts. ill have to go back in and watch it again when my day slows down.
I think the radar was around the 24.060 range, I don't think it should vary much in the limited amount of testing time. The 24.090's and up are the questionable ones for me. I know some detectors read a little different on frequencies and others are very consistent and accurate...so it's hard to be sure.

I have to give Bob credit, he did call out the frequencies and didn't offer any favor to any of the detectors...one of the best testing I have seen from him considering the active course, I am not faulting him with any variances.

I am glad he didn't hand hold the camera and he did give informative commentary through out. I have not been a big fan of his tactics from the past but he did OK with this one.
 

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Apparently the SP is the non GPS version of the XP. For $199 that's a sweet deal for redflex. Until the unknown detector is released that's not bad. Something is better than nothing I guess.
 
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Absolutely it’s worse in Calgary, but that doesn’t mean you “can’t take this video on for any of results”. I think the test was (surprisingly) well done and does have relevance for those individuals who see Redflex in that particular state. Would the results be different for Calgary? Absolutely, because as you pointed out it’s forward facing only. So I don’t think it’s a case one “one size fits all”. Different environments and different threats are treated differently.
Totally agree with you @Dukes, maybe I should rephrase my "cant take this video on for any of results". Absolutely you can. But for an average Joe I would personally explain this is not the scenario you will encounter out there. Yes, most mid grade and all high end RDs can detect Redflex at some point prior to entering kill zone however think about all those K-band falses that bombards you while driving around Calgary or any city where Redflex is present and all of the sudden after 500-700 falses per hour (with TSF, TSR, TMF2 off) you get another alert that looks just like false but its an actual Redflex radar.

Until RD companies come out with dedicated REDFLEX ALERT, I cant take these results as legit ones.
This test is no different than TXCTG K band sensitivity tests where you can find out which detectors is the best in K band test.

Redflex is the beast, the worst nightmare, even worse than DragoneyeCam however I am glad cities PR heads didnt realize this (except Calgary haha).
 

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