Armour V1 Weatherproof Box

nordschleife

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2019
Messages
12
Reaction score
7
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've recently bought a BMW with what they call a Climate Comfort Windscreen. This means its an athermic screen which makes windscreen mounted detectors perform poorly.

I use a V1 and tested how the windscreen affects performance by following a highway patrol car. While following I never had a front radar alert at all. However if I got close enough I received a rear alert. The V1 is mounted up high and is as close to the non-athermic areas of the windscreen as possible. This tells me that in the case of my car the windscreen blocks radar to an extent where the V1 hardly detects it. It has alerted me a few times which tells me the the radar isn't being blocked entirely but the result is that the windscreen makes windscreen mounted detectors very ineffective.

I've then looked around for installed detectors and like the idea of the Escort Max CI 360 but the cost makes it a very expensive solution. I then found the Armour V1 Weatherproof Box which is available as part of a remote kit on the V1 Europe website - VALENTINE ONE REMOTE

Has anyone had any experience with one of these? My thoughts are I could buy one, mount it in front of the radiator and buy a BT LE adapter and then use a phone inside the car for alerts.

What do you experts think? Is this a good solution?
 

dudeinnz

NZCTG
Moderator
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Oct 14, 2015
Messages
2,476
Reaction score
2,528
Awards
0
Location
Christchurch
Rating - 100%
2   0   0
I've recently bought a BMW with what they call a Climate Comfort Windscreen. This means its an athermic screen which makes windscreen mounted detectors perform poorly.

I use a V1 and tested how the windscreen affects performance by following a highway patrol car. While following I never had a front radar alert at all. However if I got close enough I received a rear alert. The V1 is mounted up high and is as close to the non-athermic areas of the windscreen as possible. This tells me that in the case of my car the windscreen blocks radar to an extent where the V1 hardly detects it. It has alerted me a few times which tells me the the radar isn't being blocked entirely but the result is that the windscreen makes windscreen mounted detectors very ineffective.

I've then looked around for installed detectors and like the idea of the Escort Max CI 360 but the cost makes it a very expensive solution. I then found the Armour V1 Weatherproof Box which is available as part of a remote kit on the V1 Europe website - VALENTINE ONE REMOTE

Has anyone had any experience with one of these? My thoughts are I could buy one, mount it in front of the radiator and buy a BT LE adapter and then use a phone inside the car for alerts.

What do you experts think? Is this a good solution?
Hi, I have moved your thread to the V1 section, as you will get more people with the V1 view it here and offer help.

I will say that patrol cars use more and more of instant-on, so the radar may not have been on all the time. The Armour V1 box is also available on ebay.
Cheaper version:

Net radar dsp with alp may be a better solution
Cost will be close to Max CI 360 + install.
 
Last edited:

IPA

Gimme Shelter
Premium Member
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Feb 3, 2019
Messages
231
Reaction score
228
Awards
0
Location
Atl
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Then go for NR DSP without ALP.

It sounds like you need a remote mount RD. You aren’t going to have reliable rear detection with a windshield mount RD under the hood.

Do you face laser?
 

nordschleife

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2019
Messages
12
Reaction score
7
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Yes, I need a remote RD. No, I don't see any laser. I understand the rear detection is going to be compromised. I have researched NetRadar but it appears that the interface isn't quite there yet.

I'm curious to see if anyone has had experience with one of these Armour boxes. It is an economical solution and could be wise given the mumblings about a new V1 coming out soon.
 

venom690

Learning to Fly
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jul 22, 2018
Messages
154
Reaction score
170
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
wonder if you could fit an R7 in there, I have been looking for an option to make my detector water proof when riding the bike
 

Vette6893

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jun 28, 2011
Messages
732
Reaction score
222
Awards
0
Location
South Western Connecticut
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I made my own box for the V1 and placed it on the rear deck of my car. I was able to run wires and mount the Valentine One concealed display in the dash. The concealed display gives the Valentine One more mounting options. My solution would not work for N since the V1 would still look through a window but without a concealed display, other detectors like the R 7, are challenged to be mounted in other locations. I don’t have experience with the Armour box but I’m anxious to hear other members experiences.
 

thanks

for all the fish
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Acceptus
Newly Registered
Joined
Sep 16, 2016
Messages
5,253
Reaction score
6,023
Awards
0
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
wonder if you could fit an R7 in there, I have been looking for an option to make my detector water proof when riding the bike
Unfortunately, other than the V1, no other WS RD offers a true remote display, or an app interface which would give you full control of your RD. And some feel it has been left behind by time...
 

BlueV1

10th gear
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Feb 8, 2016
Messages
1,955
Reaction score
3,048
Awards
0
Location
Western NC
Rating - 0%
0   0   0

grayman

Premium Member
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Nov 27, 2016
Messages
409
Reaction score
390
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Radenso RC M is also a remote install option
 

radark

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
24
Reaction score
40
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I thought windows like that had an untreated are for toll device or radar detectors. Is there anything like that marked on the window or in the owners manual?
 

Deacon

TXCTG
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Newly Registered
Joined
Nov 13, 2016
Messages
8,684
Reaction score
10,421
Awards
0
Location
Hill Country, TX
Rating - 100%
2   0   0
They do typically have a cut-out area for exactly that mind of thing. However, if the rear windshield is also coated, mounting the V1 to be able to see through the front “window” will allow for proper forward operation but will severely inhibit the rear arrow.

If sticking with a windshield mount detector, try running the V1 in the untreated area and see how it does. You may end up being better off with an R3 or Pro M or other forward-only detector—or else as you already realized a remote mount system may be in order.

When I’ve daydreamed about building various German luxury cars, I’ve thought screw it I’ll get the special glass and just go remote, probably RCM but maybe NR DSP if I’m going ALP already anyway.
 

nordschleife

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2019
Messages
12
Reaction score
7
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I thought windows like that had an untreated are for toll device or radar detectors. Is there anything like that marked on the window or in the owners manual?
Yes but they are at the very top of the windscreen and it isn't possible to get the V1 high enough to "see" through there. This is compounded by my car having a sunroof which lowers the headliner. A thin device like the ones used for tolls would fit up there no problem at all but the V1 (and any other detector I've seen) is too long.
-- Double Post Merged: --
They do typically have a cut-out area for exactly that mind of thing. However, if the rear windshield is also coated, mounting the V1 to be able to see through the front “window” will allow for proper forward operation but will severely inhibit the rear arrow.

If sticking with a windshield mount detector, try running the V1 in the untreated area and see how it does. You may end up being better off with an R3 or Pro M or other forward-only detector—or else as you already realized a remote mount system may be in order.

When I’ve daydreamed about building various German luxury cars, I’ve thought screw it I’ll get the special glass and just go remote, probably RCM but maybe NR DSP if I’m going ALP already anyway.
Thanks. The rear window is not athermic. I have checked the manual and it does have untreated areas either side of the rear view mirror. However, as above it is not possible to mount the V1 high enough to "see" through the untreated area.

Looks like its called "Climate Control Windshield" in the US.

Here is the extract:

115775

The marked area is not covered with heat re‐ flective coating.
Use this area for garage door openers, devices for electronic toll collection, etc.
Climate control laminated tinted safety glass*
The vehicle glass provides full protection against the harmful effects of UV radiation on the skin.
 
Last edited:

DrHow

Premium Member
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
May 18, 2018
Messages
1,644
Reaction score
2,205
Awards
0
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Yes but they are at the very top of the windscreen and it isn't possible to get the V1 high enough to "see" through there. This is compounded by my car having a sunroof which lowers the headliner. A thin device like the ones used for tolls would fit up there no problem at all but the V1 (and any other detector I've seen) is too long.
-- Double Post Merged: --


Thanks. The rear window is not athermic. I have checked the manual and it does have untreated areas either side of the rear view mirror. However, as above it is not possible to mount the V1 high enough to "see" through the untreated area.

Looks like its called "Climate Control Windshield" in the US.

Here is the extract:

View attachment 115775
The marked area is not covered with heat re‐ flective coating.
Use this area for garage door openers, devices for electronic toll collection, etc.
Climate control laminated tinted safety glass*
The vehicle glass provides full protection against the harmful effects of UV radiation on the skin.
You would lose arrows... Have you looked up the measurements for the Radenso Pro M? It is very short, narrow. Might fit up there using some kind of 3M mount? Or, is it deep enough for a custom mount with V1 in front and above of mirror, with the rear antenna peeking out to the side of the mirror? With remote display.

I do like the remote V1 box kit you show. Sorry can’t answer if it works. By time pay for that and wire, IF you could stick up in non blocked area a RC M head, use it’s remote display? I saw Dukes doing testing with a RC-M on windshield.
 

nordschleife

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2019
Messages
12
Reaction score
7
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
You would lose arrows... Have you looked up the measurements for the Radenso Pro M? It is very short, narrow. Might fit up there using some kind of 3M mount? Or, is it deep enough for a custom mount with V1 in front and above of mirror, with the rear antenna peeking out to the side of the mirror? With remote display.

I do like the remote V1 box kit you show. Sorry can’t answer if it works. By time pay for that and wire, IF you could stick up in non blocked area a RC M head, use it’s remote display? I saw Dukes doing testing with a RC-M on windshield.
Thanks. I don't mind losing the arrows too much. Yes the Radenso is still too big - even with a 3M mount. The headliner comes down significantly which limits the space to only a couple of inches. I also have the ConnectedDrive camera below the mirror that reads speed signs etc which means that the area below that is well into the athermic zone and the area above it is covered in plastic trim. I'll pull off all that trim to be totally sure.
 

xoleras

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
May 29, 2017
Messages
23
Reaction score
11
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
my 750li has that, there is a small opening in the windshield just a tad to the right above the steering wheel that has a 7x4 inch clear spot, try to find it, its very hard to see but its there
 

LouG

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,038
Reaction score
1,751
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Can you mount the V1 in the headliner with or without a cutout to the front
 

nordschleife

Learning to Drive
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Apr 7, 2019
Messages
12
Reaction score
7
Awards
0
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
my 750li has that, there is a small opening in the windshield just a tad to the right above the steering wheel that has a 7x4 inch clear spot, try to find it, its very hard to see but its there
Do you mean the part for the HUD? I have HUD but on my car there is no different in the colour of the glass - it shares the same blue colour throughout except for those areas in the image above.
-- Double Post Merged: --
Can you mount the V1 in the headliner with or without a cutout to the front
No, that area is taken up with the camera and the rain sensor.
 

surprisinguy

Government can only give what it takes...
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Mar 10, 2015
Messages
1,104
Reaction score
931
Awards
0
Location
North Carolina
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Also, using a remote box for the V1, remote display or not depending on the location you're losing the arrows
 

natedog7700

PSL + whatever i feel like
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Oct 7, 2015
Messages
576
Reaction score
381
Awards
0
Location
Milwaukee WI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
You would lose the arrows with this set up, I would reccomend net radar dsp in this situation unless you really dont care for arrows.
 

Donation drives

RDF Server & License Fees (APR 2019) (ACTIVE)

This donation drive covers the server and licensing fees for RDF for the month of April 2019...
Goal
$308.00
Earned
$320.00
This donation drive ends in

Social Group Activity

Forum statistics

Threads
80,382
Messages
1,202,025
Members
18,394
Latest member
CinCity
Top