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That is why lockouts are not a good idea specially auto lockouts. It is applicable to some locations where you know for sure there is no LEO operating in that area.
I agree, but in my case, I really blame it on how Uniden has it setup. My lockout is at 24.171 I think.. Maybe 24.172, can't remember the exact number.. The LEO was shooting at 24.154. If Uniden would tighten up their lockout range to say +/- 2, or even up to +/- 5, what happened to me would be really really rare..
 

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I agree, but in my case, I really blame it on how Uniden has it setup. My lockout is at 24.171 I think.. Maybe 24.172, can't remember the exact number.. The LEO was shooting at 24.154. If Uniden would tighten up their lockout range to say +/1 2, or even +/- 5, what happened to me would be really really rare..
Uniden locks out K band not by frequency but by location and radius. Any K band frequency will be muted in that radius.
 

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It's by Freq also.. but it's at +/- 30, if my memory is any good.
I based my findings on my testing with one door opener that changes in frequency. So I assumed it was not frequency based but you can be right if it had that amount of frequency range allocated for their lockouts.
 

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You all should read this carefully and get a good idea how lockouts are working with the different detectors.
 

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You all should read this carefully and get a good idea how lockouts are working with the different detectors.
Jeepers! It's even worse than I thought.. the lockout frequency is +/- 35 for a total of 70 mhz.
 

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Jeepers! It's even worse than I thought.. the lockout frequency is +/- 35 for a total of 70 mhz.
And some like Pro-M lockout all K signals, but behave better when exiting the lockout radius.
Can you guys view the videos?
I get not available message.
 

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And some like Pro-M lockout all K signals, but behave better when exiting the lockout radius.
Can you guys view the videos?
I get not available message.
Says video not available when I try to watch it.
 

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Videos are back on line. Just a hiccup that had to be rectified
 

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Yep I am not a fan of the auto lockout. Any detector equipped with the feature that I can’t turn off won’t have a place in my fleet. Funny how VR made this point so many years ago and it still resonates to be true despite all the “technological advances” that we have made as a society.
 

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This is not directed at anyone here; Novices using auto-lockouts (in the way that they seem to currently operate, or in the case of the R7 we expect they will operate) is like handing a cordless drill with a 1/2" bit to a toddler.
There's an increasing amount of K-band out there.
 
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I am convinced that Auto-lockouts CAN be done in a safe manner, but that a lot of detectors don't do it safely. (Ignoring ALL of K-band in an area definitely isn't the answer anymore than ignoring "segments" of K-band to avoid BSM. Those are poorly implemented band-aids at best.)

Counting signals as STS134 said is a good idea and might work almost all the time.

Alerting the driver in some non-urgent manner seems to be a good method. If Ram3 had some indication that there was a new signal present, that might have helped. It goes back to the idea of, "Hear / See a signal; look around for the source even if you think it's nothing." It's sure better than total silence and no visual alert. :)
My thoughts on this are exactly what you mentioned. Nice feature until the cop's figure out this loophole with gps lockouts in certain spots and take advantage.
I'm torn between either features as silence is golden but not full proof as you've stated. Definitely a point of ponder.
 

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It's worse that that Saussie. :hfive: Even if LEO's don't concern themselves with frequencies and just go out and do their duty;

US K-band is only 200 MHz and one single Uniden 70 MHz lockout at a strategic frequency of 24.125 GHz and 1,360 feet diameter (as tested by one of our members) would silence any LEO in that diameter circle with a properly tuned unit. (Also, that's 1/3 of the entire US K-band)
Get a few of those 70 MHz lockouts going in a strip mall along the side of the road and you can find yourself "blind" for a respectable distance right were LEO's might be trying to catch people.

Just like my tagline says, "You won't be saved by alerts you don't get." I changed it to that a few months ago when we all discussed this a previous time. ;)
 

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Curious what settings made it quieter? Without k muting logic found on V1 my R7 very chatty when surround by bsm cars

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I have most of Vortexs suggested settings enabled.
I would say enabling some are essential, especially segmentation and automute.... Too much Voice is a big distraction too... I don't need a lady talking to me when I'm trying to think quickly, I already know what she's gonna say.
I don't mind hearing the band immediately, but otherwise no.

Also when your in the big city, use city mode... That's what it's for... Yes it's a hassle to remember to turn it back to highway....

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Highway - if using Advanced have K band at 50%
GPS: On
Speed Camera: off
Redlight Cam: Off - Texas just banned them for prosecution!
RLC Q-Ride: 55 mph
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Uniden locks out K band not by frequency but by location and radius. Any K band frequency will be muted in that radius.
And that radius is quite small... Any smaller you would need two mutes to manually lockout one false signal.. I'm some cases I do.. But that's ok.
I like a tight radius.... For that same reason yav1 app for the V1 has a tight radius.
 

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And that radius is quite small... Any smaller you would need two mutes to manually lockout one false signal.. I'm some cases I do.. But that's ok.
I like a tight radius.... For that same reason yav1 app for the V1 has a tight radius.
Over a thousand feet is a small radius? That's not comfortable to me in K band country unless Heywood's numbers are wrong. The proof is in the pudding though.
 

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You all should read this carefully and get a good idea how lockouts are working with the different detectors.
Yes, a great read!

Thx Heywood!
 
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Uniden locks out K band not by frequency but by location and radius. Any K band frequency will be muted in that radius.
Interesting, that's the same issue Radenso has with the Pro M using firmware US16 but claims its a fixable bug?
 

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Interesting, that's the same issue Radenso has with the Pro M using firmware US16 but claims its a fixable bug?
That is incorrect info on Uniden.
It locks out the frequency and any other K band +/- 0.035 of the locked ou frequency, in a radius of 500 ft (est) from lockout location.
Pro-M locks out all K band signals, but alerts to a second K signal as soon as exiting the radius, whereas the Uniden has visual but not audio alert until all K signals have stopped.
 

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Has Uniden provided any indication on when the R7's will be updated to include auto-lockout? I think Escort's patent expired within the past few months and I was hoping that they would release it soon after the expiration.
 

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