Bel Magnum sti/Driver/XR advice please.

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Hi All, hope you're doing well.

Had a question about the above detector/s.
Are they still current somewhat? I've been eyeing one off to deal with redflex after watching vortex's video on detectors for each state. I'm in Australia and deal with redflex, and base my ideas and theory off Arizona state. So by taking the advice shown and being on a budget, this seems like it will do the job.
I've considered and almost forked out the coin for an R1 or R3. After learning from Vortex and hearing him state he wouldn't recommend an R1 or R3 for redflex, I'm really glad I didn't get overly keen to buy one, although I came real close!
I backed off from the idea after hanging around on here and just overloading myself with information and getting quite confused. Importation was another factor to Australia, and keeping an eye on various store sales and exchange rates in USA and Europe.
Then came the compatibility question and would the detector suit my country.... As I even type this my mind is blown thinking about all the info I've absorbed! That said I'm wiser for it.
Anyways, cutting to it.
Vortex vid on Arizona is here which I think is solid, go to 4min 40seconds for reference -

Ontop of this, some real juicy info (although old news by now no doubt) I've found in relation to the bel sti AUS/Nz version VS the USA Version, which was a dodgy situation for AUS/NZ customers, as they are identical (except for what looks to be a sticker to try and sway the consumer and pocket a few extra $$$ from us, seeing as people had imported it $300 cheaper in some instances!)
Info is below, as it's the biggest load of codswallop I've ever heard and beltronics should be.... (insert your own punishment ideas here) for somewhat misleading us!
Info here - Bel STi XR vs Bel Sti Driver - we put them to the test
So taking all into consideration, I like the potential of this unit, but I believe it's discontinued, so wanted to throw the thread up and hear what people have to say compared to newer detectors that have cropped up lately. Vortex highlights a few detectors for Arizona and the bel can sweep low enough for redflex.
Cheers to everyone who chips in their 2 cents. Looks like some honesty is required after reading that last link I posted!
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Before anyone jumps the gun, I'll backup that last link, with the links own backup link Beltronics STI-Driver / STI-XR radar detectors.
Just covering myself here to shield the commentary onslaught that may be brewing.
I still like the detector though, just not how it got marketed to us in AUS/NZ. I'm not surprised the ACCC were contacted as stated in the link. For non Aussies I can explain - The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) is an independent Commonwealth statutory authority whose role is to enforce the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 and a range of additional legislation, promoting competition, fair trading and regulating national infrastructure for the benefit of all Australians ...
I've actually been reasonable and edited the thread as it kinda boiled me up after reading the news. Before typing this up to finalise the post, I thought I should make sure I've toned it down a bit to a standard level. I do respect the forum and like to conduct myself reasonably and not let "emotions" get the better of me. Ontop of that, I'd still consider buying the detector! Haha! Rant over. Cheers
 
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Until just this week I have been running my Magnum as a daily driver for 4+ years. Ka is the main freq I have to deal with. K is all but non existent on the freeway here so I turned it off.
This is a save I had last week with the Magnum.
There was a new to them Jag (had the temp plates) that wanted to play (I was driving the SS Sedan).
It was late and I wasn't in the mood so I kept my CC on at +20 psl. Magnum started chirping about where the blue line starts. I breaked, Jag kept going. He found the Highway Trooper where the blue line ends...
Bad day for him, good day for me.
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I've owned an stiDriver converted to Magnum (wirebonded) that was super hot on Ka. I was one to not mind pressing the mute button for K band but it was annoying none the less. If Ka is all you got it's a formidable detector.
 

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Great info people. Congratulations on the save too.
After a couple of new videos dropped recently in regards to redflex, results are showing the Radenso XP (in testing) handled redflex nicely. The non GPS version is the SP, and is priced at $199 currently. That's a damn good price for something that can reasonably handle redflex in my opinion, considering it out performed the Uniden R1/3 in this scenario.
Although this detector is tuned to my country (arguably), I think technology has just come a lot further since its release nearly ten years ago.
It is good to see that it is useful for some, and at least it's undetectable to RDD, which is where is still holds a lot of clout.
Quite hard to find them now. I did see one in Australia for sale recently but asking price was around $400AUD. I started the thread based on seeing this but after researching, I just couldn't justify the price, even though they retailed anywhere from $800-$1000AUD when released.
Like most technology, it moves in leaps and bounds unfortunately, and even sold at half the retail price, couldn't bring myself to agree with it, considering the new big players in the game are alot more advanced, and so are the devices we combat.
 
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I think the linked articles make great points, that there is no actual STi Driver XR edition. It is nothing more than a STi Driver with reconfigured settings, which any user can do themselves.

Additionally, once the Magnum came out with the Band Segmentation and Radar Detector Rejection firmware, then it allowed for turning off band segments not used in Australia. One could in theory use a Magnum with BS/RDR and ideally achieve performance better than this fake "XR" anyways.

If you are still reading this and want to get a Beltronics STi Driver, you'd want to go for the Beltronics STi Magnum. Only the STi Magnum can be updated to the BS/RDR firmware. This past week, two days ago, I actually contacted Escort Incorporated via live chat to ask them about the Beltronics STi, STi Driver, and STi Magnum. They let me know that they no longer service the STi and STi Driver. They only service the STi Magnum. If you have an STi Magnum, you can mail it to them and pay $40 USD to have them update the firmware on the unit to the BS/RDR firmware -- but you must have the STi Magnum. The STi & STi Driver are not updatable (as they'd require a hardware upgrade which is no longer offered).

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I am confused.

The Redflex I deal with is K band frequency in the very low range.
I own both wire bonded Magnum and Redline which still kill it on Ka band but obsolete for any K band use due to BSM.

Why would you use a Magnum/Redline other than they are immune to RDD which I am guessing is the only reason. The Unidens are hit and miss on stealth but the Pro M would work well I believe.

My 2 cents.
 

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I am confused.

The Redflex I deal with is K band frequency in the very low range.
I own both wire bonded Magnum and Redline which still kill it on Ka band but obsolete for any K band use due to BSM.

Why would you use a Magnum/Redline other than they are immune to RDD which I am guessing is the only reason. The Unidens are hit and miss on stealth but the Pro M would work well I believe.

My 2 cents.
From what I can gather, RDs are legal except for the state of Western Austraila. There, they use RDDs to enforce the ban.
 

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From what I can gather, RDs are legal except for the state of Western Austraila. There, they use RDDs to enforce the ban.
Sorry... To edit my post, as I read yours quickly and replied to you with a quote. It's actually the opposite. W.A only. RDD's I'm unsure if they are in use in W. A as it's legal. Good point about that though. It has me wondering if the local W.A plod, bother with RDD? Seems pointless but never bothered to actually see if the equipment is in the car. Unsure if W.A days are numbered for use. Heaviest RD users in Australia without a doubt.
 
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