R7 seems to be more chatty than the R3

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Maybe, just Maybe with the new hardware of the R7 and maybe the more memory for the Firmware Code to sit in, they will come out with a algorithm and or BS of the K band to help with BSM in future Firmwares. Unless the BSM has to be how the Horns receive the K band pattern. But i'm starting to get alot of BSM in the 24.150+/- range, and that's also range our local LEO's love to live in +/- 100Mhz.

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Does this hinder range or reaction of detector?

Meaning any change in performance running TSF on versus TSF off.
TFS On is not a great choice for those of us who battle K routinely, including I/O.

Man, I really wish the R7 would’ve been an improvement in BSM. Would’ve really made it closer to a no-brainer for those who can afford it.
The answer is that we don't know if TSF will affect range or reactivity a lot yet since there hasn't been enough testing in this area.

I suspect you won't see much difference with a clean signal on a straight road. The devil will be in the attenuated signals. I'm basing this on testing the R1 and R3 as it follows it should be similar at the moment with little FW divergence. Reactivity needs more testing as well. Wish I had my R7 and I'd get to testing right away.
 

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To be fair, I'd say giving R7 performance with arrows is innovative considering you can't get that type of range anywhere else right now with arrows.
Does the degree of innovative-ness matter? The R3 already is near the top for range and near the top for both BSM filtering especially if you consider Advanced and sensitivity reduction to be acceptable.

We’ve seen our patch antenna friends put tons of processing power on their hardware without much real world result. I’m not super convinced that a winning formula has to change just for change’s sake.
 

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I set up the R7 the same exact way as the R3
Highway Mode
K Narrow- K Filter on- TSF off- MRCD off
Seems to be falsing to a lot more Mazda's and Chrysler's now. Of course it still falses to Acura/Honda but it seems like it's way more chatty now.
Been driving with it for 2 days and there's a LOT of Mazda's and Acura/Honda's around my area.
I'll have to try TSF on and see if that helps and will post back later with some more info.
I'm surprised no one asked the big question.....what firmware version were/are you running on the R3? If you were running 1.37 none of what you said would be a surprise, but if you were/are running 1.48 (where people already say it is chattier than 1.37) that means it would be that much of a bigger jump for us running a 1.37 R3 to go to the R7 with BSM's, which does not sound appealing. I know a lot more time under the belt has to be had, but just a knee jerk reaction to your observations.
 

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My R7 came in as well and I desoldered the horn. It's more chatty than the R3 because it doesn't have any additional DSP processing power but has twice the horns, it's basically literally two R3 stuck together (one of everything per horn on the circuitry). I am surprised they did it this way as it adds cost to the BOM, but probably saved engineering time as opposed to coming up with a new design to share a central DSP.

One interesting thing is that they used a slower (less powerful) dsp chip for the rear horn than they did for the front horn, which is the same one in the R3 (400mhz blackfin).
Hahaha well, that's interesting. It's like a stinger VIP in condensed form, but with the back antenna having a weaker DSP.

Would you mind posting pictures?

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Yeah try TSF on. I found it more important with the R7 than with the R3.
Welcome to the world of "dual horns" and V1s issue for many years!!! :)
 

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Could the R7 have such feature with future FW? Or is this a hardware niche that the V1 has?


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All it is is an option to audibly mute rear K band alerts so yeah, it could be easy to add as a menu option.
 

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Does this hinder range or reaction of detector?

Meaning any change in performance running TSF on versus TSF off.
No, not really. Your range and reactivity will still be plenty good.
 

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Yeah that's where I've been running it too. I did the R3 at 70% and I do the R7 at 60%. Just seat of the pants stuff, nothing super concrete with the different settings, but it does seem natively a little chattier. Maybe the rear antenna, maybe it's more sensitive, I'm not sure why.
Do you have a recommended settings page up yet for the R7? Your settings were a huge help getting going with the R3.
 

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Do you have a recommended settings page up yet for the R7? Your settings were a huge help getting going with the R3.
Not yet. I've been holding off until we get public firmware since all the features and how they work are still subject to change. Now that there's a few copies of the detectors out I can work on that next week.
 

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TFS On is not a great choice for those of us who battle K routinely, including I/O.

Man, I really wish the R7 would’ve been an improvement in BSM. Would’ve really made it closer to a no-brainer for those who can afford it.
My testing indicates that K Filter and TSR on for the R7 is not really a problem for K-band I/O
 

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I can’t get the R7 (TSF and K filter enabled) to miss a shot against the Falcon HR. Personally from what I’ve seen I’m not concerned about I/O with TSF enabled.
That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Texas DPS is mainly Stalker Ka 34.7, but I've seen K band in an old Crown Vic (Driver License). We were also told by Sarge that the DPS purchased 300 Stalker Patrol K- band radar units. I've yet to see one, but plenty of locals and Deputy Sheriffs still run K-band. I dont want to give up any I/O capabilities with filters.
 

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Just posted the results for some quick testing of K-band QT with K Filter on and TSF on in Intermediate for those who have access.
 

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