My 1st Week With The V1....Umm...

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To me, where the V1 will still beat the R7 is quietness and the app features
All I've done on the R3 was tone down the K band sensitivity, and it's as quiet as a church mouse. I have some punch thru here and there from Pacificas and Honda's, but nothing that is a deal breaker. In my week with the V1, I found myself looking at all of the data and wondering......What the h3ll am I looking at this for? It was cool to see and all, but, Why? The threat is no longer a threat if I'm sitting at home looking at it. All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction. The sooner I know that, the safer my wallet will be. JBV1 did an awesome job, but I didn't need a phone to get the info that I needed instantly with the R3 by it's self.
 
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All I've done on the R3 was tone down the K band sensitivity, and it's as quiet as a church mouse. I have some punch thru here and there from Pacificas and Honda's, but nothing that is a deal breaker. In my week with the V1, I found myself looking at all of the data and wondering......What the h3ll am I looking at this for? It was cool to see and all, but, Why? The threat is no longer a threat if I'm sitting at home looking at it. All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction. The sooner I know that, the safer my wallet will be.
Mount the phone on the windshield and keep the app open. It will display this information.
 

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Mount the phone on the windshield and keep the app open. It will display this information.
That's the point....Why mount my phone when I can just look and see, or just not look and listen.
 
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All I've done on the R3 was tone down the K band sensitivity, and it's as quiet as a church mouse. I have some punch thru here and there from Pacificas and Honda's, but nothing that is a deal breaker. In my week with the V1, I found myself looking at all of the data and wondering......What the h3ll am I looking at this for? It was cool to see and all, but, Why? The threat is no longer a threat if I'm sitting at home looking at it. All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction. The sooner I know that, the safer my wallet will be. JBV1 did an awesome job, but I didn't need a phone to get the info that I needed instantly with the R3 by it's self.
No, BSM isn't a deal breaker for me either. It's still a nice benefit.

The number one thing, for me, is being able to run stealth. The JBV1 overlay runs on my vvaze screen and the detector itself is dark. JBV1 autostarts as I get in my car by sensing that there is a dongle nearby. It also starts my vvaze app as well.
Second for me is K band frequency announcements...something I wish Uniden would have implemented. Even better, I run K band tones through the detector and announcements through my phone, thus avoiding the ramp up problem with the R3 voice enabled.

The logging feature for me has more to do with lockouts. I have always been hesitant to lock out signals because K-band is alive and well here. What if I accidentally lock out a legitimate signal? Well, now I can see where and when I've come across that signal. JBV1 already has auto learn which I can adjust. And I can pull up a map of K-hits and add/delete lockouts without having to drive by there again. Although the R7 will reportedly get auto lockouts at some point after this summer, I think it'll be a while before we see anything that can do everything that JBV1 adds to the V1.

Logging also shows me who uses which band... One town 34.5, one all 35.5, etc. Logging told me that there is a legitimate leo running 24.226 in the next county over. Would I have known this without logging my data? My memory isn't that good.

No discredit to uniden as I own 3 R series detectors. In certain circumstances, I run my R3. And if my tax bill hadn't been outrageously high due to last year's changes, I wouldn't have canceled my R7 order. I'll probably end up getting one at some point, just not as an early adopter.
 

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In a week we can expect another weak detection video with R7? hehe
Nice job of cherry picking an I/O shot to attempt to prove your point...
 

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Nice job of cherry picking an I/O shot to attempt to prove your point...
It's even worse than cherry picking... It's inaccurate analysis and completely botching that this was rear facing radar, as HC identified, to try to prove a point.
 

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All I've done on the R3 was tone down the K band sensitivity, and it's as quiet as a church mouse. I have some punch thru here and there from Pacificas and Honda's, but nothing that is a deal breaker. In my week with the V1, I found myself looking at all of the data and wondering......What the h3ll am I looking at this for? It was cool to see and all, but, Why? The threat is no longer a threat if I'm sitting at home looking at it. All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction. The sooner I know that, the safer my wallet will be. JBV1 did an awesome job, but I didn't need a phone to get the info that I needed instantly with the R3 by it's self.
I currently have switched back to my V1 and using the JBV1 app, and TMG integration. What I find interesting is (not a knock), anyone new to the platform of purchase should run it at full everything within a first select period of time. Out of the gate, reducing sensitivity is not a good thing for many reasons. If you are running "auto learn" falsing or on the R series manually locking out the falses, do it under full sensitivity. This in turn adds the lockouts at near full distancing and when reducing the sensitivity or other, and also should let you know what is around those commuting areas so if something later seems fishy, you will know if it is a real threat or not.

I did see the post video, and I have experience those alerts either with my V1, R3s, NRDSP, and others. There was more than enough time to slow and see the LEO, and since his antenna was facing 100 + degrees, was a decent pickup, with 16sec of alerting before passing the LEO and relying on limited reflections to provide early enough warning. If this was approaching the Antenna head-on, then another. I think you had let the suggestion hurt any positive expectations you could of had, and the R series made you feel the bug that you could be less protected by the V1. I can under that feeling, as when I got my RL-o, as to how much more on 35.5 I was missing to early detection.

If Uniden can open the R7 to Bluetooth/Hardline communication like the V1, JBR7 (JBV1) could be the setup to break all others, and with the integration of TMG and Daze. Since I run NRDSP and ALPs, wish another manufacture would open their eyes and adopt. Talk about near full Driver Telemetry being fed to one.
 
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I don't believe R7 allows returns, maybe they do
The R7 is a product. Returns are in theory up to the vendor. I don’t know of any vendor who won’t allow returns.


All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction.
Yep. The V1 gives you that info, and the R7 will as well. The V1’s data with V1Driver and JBV1 allow you to satisfy curiosity about broader trends and locations, and you can go back and remember what that frequency was from that encounter yesterday, and in general it’s just straight up nice to have and play with. The ability to see, tweak, delete, move, and transfer lockouts is also occasionally useful. But none of it is truly and critically “necessary” in the moment—for every encounter. But sometimes it is.

Here’s a true real-world example from literally yesterday. I was running the R3 in a swirling shitstorm of K-band in San Antonio, an area with several strong stationary K-band falses (that I’ve never been able to figure out exactly what structure they’re coming from), while several Hondas and GMs were around me throwing BSM, and it just felt weird. Something felt off, and the frequencies were all over the place. Almost felt like a cop was rolling toward me or with me or something. Guess what? You know how all those people poo-poo arrows and say just look in your mirrors? There was a Bexar County SO motorcycle running K-band on this multi lane highway that had lots of merges and splits and and exit/on ramps, impossible to reasonably keep up with all new and exiting traffic, especially bikes that are easily hidden even when they don’t mean to be. I never did see him till he passed me on the right (at PSL+15, by the way). I had no idea where any of it was coming from, and he would’ve been locked out if I used the “dumb” lockouts built into the R3, and I was legitimately in a hurry on a tight timeline. I would’ve been toast. Most detector users would’ve been toast.

That right there made me wish I was running my V1 instead, to get an unlimited view of all bogeys, their directions and strengths, and the intelligently narrowing lockouts of V1Driver. I could’ve had the stationary falses locked out (only just barely as wide a range as necessary), the Hondas automatically muted, and the cop himself would’ve then stood out, and I would’ve known he was behind me.

The R7 would’ve solved some of that problem, at least as far direction was concerned. But I couldn’t selectively mute individual signals, couldn’t see the full and continuous list of threats, and the broad lockouts would’ve left most of it silenced anyway—including the bike cop.

That’s why it’s very, very difficult to come up with the single perfect detector for all scenarios and users. If @UnidenSupport had made available some form of open API, the R7 would be damn close. That’s why I’m excited to see what @Jon at Radenso and his crew come up with in the future, as I think they have their fingers more closely on the pulse of that pursuit of the perfect detector. Hell, maybe MV will surprise us and come out with something :)
 
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The R7 is a product. Returns are in theory up to the vendor. I don’t know of any vendor who won’t allow returns.



Yep. The V1 gives you that info, and the R7 will as well. The V1’s data with V1Driver and JBV1 allow you to satisfy curiosity about broader trends and locations, and you can go back and remember what that frequency was from that encounter yesterday, and in general it’s just straight up nice to have and play with. The ability to see, tweak, delete, move, and transfer lockouts is also occasionally useful. But none of it is truly and critically “necessary” in the moment—for every encounter. But sometimes it is.

Here’s a true real-world example from literally yesterday. I was running the R3 in a swirling ****storm of K-band in San Antonio, an area with several strong stationary K-band falses (that I’ve never been able to figure out exactly what structure they’re coming from), while several Hondas and GMs were around me throwing BSM, and it just felt weird. Something felt off, and the frequencies were all over the place. Almost felt like a cop was rolling toward me or with me or something. Guess what? You know how all those people poo-poo arrows and say just look in your mirrors? There was a Bexar County SO motorcycle running K-band on this multi lane highway that had lots of merges and splits and and exit/on ramps, impossible to reasonably keep up with all new and exiting traffic, especially bikes that are easily hidden even when they don’t mean to be. I never did see him till he passed me on the right (at PSL+15, by the way). I had no idea where any of it was coming from, and he would’ve been locked out if I used the “dumb” lockouts built into the R3, and I was legitimately in a hurry on a tight timeline. I would’ve been toast. Most detector users would’ve been toast.

That right there made me wish I was running my V1 instead, to get an unlimited view of all bogeys, their directions and strengths, and the intelligently narrowing lockouts of V1Driver. I could’ve had the stationary falses locked out (only just barely as wide a range as necessary), the Hondas automatically muted, and the cop himself would’ve then stood out, and I would’ve known he was behind me.

The R7 would’ve solved some of that problem, at least as far direction was concerned. But I couldn’t selectively mute individual signals, couldn’t see the full and continuous list of threats, and the broad lockouts would’ve left most of it silenced anyway—including the bike cop.

That’s why it’s very, very difficult to come up with the single perfect detector for all scenarios and users. If @UnidenSupport had made available some form of open API, the R7 would be damn close. That’s why I’m excited to see what @Jon at Radenso and his crew come up with in the future, as I think they have their fingers more closely on the pulse of that pursuit of the perfect detector. Hell, maybe MV will surprise us and come out with something :)
All those are valid points. I don't live in a huge city like that though. I'm in a small city where K band is rare, but not rare enough that I can turn it off. So I just lower the sensitivity on K and listen to the ramp up and notice what kind of cars are around me. If It ramps up high and I don't see any known culprit vehicles around me, I slow down. Has worked great for me in my area.
 

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I'm looking forward to some filtering testing of the R7 vs V1 (with and without apps).
 

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K is not my main threat guys....This deputy is the one I know of, and there are 2 more I know in the city i live in. Ka is my main threat. I won't be hasty and give up after a week. I'll run it for 2 more, make some changes in jbv1, and then go from there.
You might try mounting it up higher. In my Expedition I have it high up to the right of the rearview mirror. With hills and obstacles, high up is better. Look at this 3 mile detection over hills i got recently.

V1 has outstanding range.

 

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Not a 1st time RD user, nor am I suffering from "alert anxiety". It was more of a "this thing has short range anxiety".
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If you understand that the R series has superior range, then why is there doubt? I'm one of the few folks that believe the Redline-O is equal to the R series in range(At least I believe mines does). I've seen it sniff out and latch on to various bands from some amazing angles, distances, and around buildings. I can't prove it, cause I didn't always have a dash camera, but I'm sure there are plenty members on here with amazing detection stories that you would have to see to believe.
It wasn't meant as an insult, nor did I think you were a first time user. But I know from personal experience, friends concerns, etc that people often start querying their detectors performance when they get an alert that seems short. There are many reasons why that might be so.

When I got my first V1 I thought it was little better than the Whistler I had before it, it soon proved me wrong.
 

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As usual I'm late to the discussion - but as others have said the original video was a great detection, definitely a forward facing antenna and not a threat to you. It's evident when you pass the suv and the super fast ramp gives it away.
 

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As long as you don't get any tickets, we're happy!

There is no better feeling than having your detector warn you of an oncoming LEO or speed trap that you know would've gotten you pulled and given a ticket if your detector hadn't warned you otherwise :)
If your detector/app system has CSA's, then you don't even need it to detect a signal.
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All I've done on the R3 was tone down the K band sensitivity, and it's as quiet as a church mouse. I have some punch thru here and there from Pacificas and Honda's, but nothing that is a deal breaker. In my week with the V1, I found myself looking at all of the data and wondering......What the h3ll am I looking at this for? It was cool to see and all, but, Why? The threat is no longer a threat if I'm sitting at home looking at it. All I really wanted to know at the moment was...What band, and What direction. The sooner I know that, the safer my wallet will be. JBV1 did an awesome job, but I didn't need a phone to get the info that I needed instantly with the R3 by it's self.
Now I'm confused. You knew all this before you bought it. Why bother?
 
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The R7 is a product. Returns are in theory up to the vendor. I don’t know of any vendor who won’t allow returns.



Yep. The V1 gives you that info, and the R7 will as well. The V1’s data with V1Driver and JBV1 allow you to satisfy curiosity about broader trends and locations, and you can go back and remember what that frequency was from that encounter yesterday, and in general it’s just straight up nice to have and play with. The ability to see, tweak, delete, move, and transfer lockouts is also occasionally useful. But none of it is truly and critically “necessary” in the moment—for every encounter. But sometimes it is.

Here’s a true real-world example from literally yesterday. I was running the R3 in a swirling ****storm of K-band in San Antonio, an area with several strong stationary K-band falses (that I’ve never been able to figure out exactly what structure they’re coming from), while several Hondas and GMs were around me throwing BSM, and it just felt weird. Something felt off, and the frequencies were all over the place. Almost felt like a cop was rolling toward me or with me or something. Guess what? You know how all those people poo-poo arrows and say just look in your mirrors? There was a Bexar County SO motorcycle running K-band on this multi lane highway that had lots of merges and splits and and exit/on ramps, impossible to reasonably keep up with all new and exiting traffic, especially bikes that are easily hidden even when they don’t mean to be. I never did see him till he passed me on the right (at PSL+15, by the way). I had no idea where any of it was coming from, and he would’ve been locked out if I used the “dumb” lockouts built into the R3, and I was legitimately in a hurry on a tight timeline. I would’ve been toast. Most detector users would’ve been toast.

That right there made me wish I was running my V1 instead, to get an unlimited view of all bogeys, their directions and strengths, and the intelligently narrowing lockouts of V1Driver. I could’ve had the stationary falses locked out (only just barely as wide a range as necessary), the Hondas automatically muted, and the cop himself would’ve then stood out, and I would’ve known he was behind me.

The R7 would’ve solved some of that problem, at least as far direction was concerned. But I couldn’t selectively mute individual signals, couldn’t see the full and continuous list of threats, and the broad lockouts would’ve left most of it silenced anyway—including the bike cop.

That’s why it’s very, very difficult to come up with the single perfect detector for all scenarios and users. If @UnidenSupport had made available some form of open API, the R7 would be damn close. That’s why I’m excited to see what @Jon at Radenso and his crew come up with in the future, as I think they have their fingers more closely on the pulse of that pursuit of the perfect detector. Hell, maybe MV will surprise us and come out with something :)
What a story, I'm down here in the hill country coming back from Austin through Liberty Hill and picked up 34.7 on my V1, followed the arrows right into a Valero station and there was a moto LEO with someone pulled over in the parking area. Was actually going to stop there to get gas anyway. My first encounter with a moto LEO. I've had a couple of those short detections that were described here, but now I understand the reasons why. Really pays to do a lot of forum reading. Thanks.

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If your detector/app system has CSA's, then you don't even need it to detect a signal.
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Now I'm confused. You knew all this before you bought it. Why bother?
Because I wanted to see for myself.
 

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Because I wanted to see for myself.
Honestly, there is nothing wrong fully using one and understanding what it is, understanding what a unit provides and properly identifying pros and cons of the device.
 

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Honestly, there is nothing wrong fully using one and understanding what it is, understanding what a unit provides and properly identifying pros and cons of the device.
Same here, I'd love to try out other RD's for a few weeks. Unfortunately many of us don't have a couple grand to drop on RD's.
 

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It wasn't meant as an insult, nor did I think you were a first time user. But I know from personal experience, friends concerns, etc that people often start querying their detectors performance when they get an alert that seems short. There are many reasons why that might be so.

When I got my first V1 I thought it was little better than the Whistler I had before it, it soon proved me wrong.
Yup. The OP needs to understand that radar waves and encounter scenarios are unique and unpredictable. Occasionally, short detections will happen ON EVERY platform for a variety of reasons. My most recent was a short 34.7 that I barely had 2 seconds of warning of. Rather than chastising my V1 for it, I examined the encounter based on my data, my dash cam. I concluded, due to the ramp up and my knowledge of what my V1 is capable of and how it normally performs, that the Leo had either switched from rear to front or had just hit his transmit button. Perhaps one of my fellow motorists a ways in front of me appeared over the limit to him. Who knows. Bottom line: if my V1 had been an R7, the result would have been the same.

We must all remember too that all testing data we see is usually in ideal scenarios, towhereas real world encounters are not always.
 

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Same here, I'd love to try out other RD's for a few weeks. Unfortunately many of us don't have a couple grand to drop on RD's.
So you are suggesting an RDF radar detector timeshare? :waycool:
 

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