My 1st Week With The V1....Umm... (1 Viewer)

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In an urban/suburban environment, I find that the V1's ability on 35.5 compared to the R3/R1 is generally about 60% of the distance. Admittedly I haven't had many 35.5 alerts to judge but the few I've had seem to be falling at that 60% point. To me that doesn't translate to much because 35.5 is much shorter on the R3/R1 than other frequencies.
On Ka 34.7, if the R3 gets a crazy sniff, it's much better than the V1... and every other detector I've used. Normally, they are closer together though, I'd say that in the City or suburban environment, less than 60 feet difference.... If that's important to you.

K-band...
Wednesday, I had a local officer shooting C/O stationary K-band (24.170) in light traffic, some buildings, small hills etc nearby (Suburban environment)
I was able to get two runs in with the R3 from same direction (read same route) before he moved. (Originally came across it with my V1). Both R3 runs were within 5-10 feet of where it first popped up on the V1.
So for me, K-band detection range in an urban/suburban environment is similar with filtering enabled.

*Traffic Filter and K filter enabled on the R3 (1.48), TMF2 enabled on V1 (3.8952/JBV1)
 
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I wonder what the over/under is for Code Browns for the R7 to be reported unbiasedly?

IMO any new product will be the best RD in the world to justify the money spent by the consumer if it doesn't allow returns.... Atleast a few weeks until any Code Brown reports I would guess. I don't believe R7 allows returns, maybe they do.

I will follow @Rocky Road with his review of the R7 as he is very unbiased and has a camera. Especially since he has used JBV1. Too bad the R7 won't allow any alert logs to review, especially if the same LEO is encountered.

And VR has a V1 at a discount soon to a lucky owner :)
@Allen Dockery Thank you for all your time and help. I hope you don't feel like you wasted your time? You and @johnboy00 and many others were very helpful in this short time period. I truly liked it, and JBV1 was awesome. Someone earlier in this post said that I wasn't going to be happy with it....if what I was thinking about was the R7. They were right. I'm going to find that and thank them also.

I can see why there is love for the V1, it is an awesome detector. Hell, we live and learn. I never talked about the Bell RX65(M4) that I 1st owned, because that was short lived also. This forum is very helpful to newbies, and also intermediate level RD users. So thanks again to everyone for the advice and help! Long Live RDF!!
 

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@Allen Dockery Thank you for all your time and help. I hope you don't feel like you wasted your time? You and @johnboy00 and many others were very helpful in this short time period. I truly liked it, and JBV1 was awesome. Someone earlier in this post said that I wasn't going to be happy with it....if what I was thinking about was the R7. They were right. I'm going to find that and thank them also.

I can see why there is love for the V1, it is an awesome detector. Hell, we live and learn. I never talked about the Bell RX65(M4) that I 1st owned, because that was short lived also. This forum is very helpful to newbies, and also intermediate level RD users. So thanks again to everyone for the advice and help! Long Live RDF!!
Yep, that's what it's all about... finding the detector that works best for you. Enjoy the R7.
 

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I think you’re a little too “on top of it” because you’re looking for it to disappoint you because range queens here constantly neg it. If you can’t shake that, then just return it and get the R7, because otherwise you’ll never be truly happy with it.
You were right @Deacon , but it wasn't others, it was me. Like someone stated earlier, once you're use to one thing, it's kinda hard to switch up. Thank You for your wisdom!
 

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You were right @Deacon , but it wasn't others, it was me. Like someone stated earlier, once you're use to one thing, it's kinda hard to switch up. Thank You for your wisdom!
Sorry the V1 didn't work out for you. We all have our preferences/expectations for an RD and nothing wrong with trying out something new. Like you said, it's difficult to change once your used to something. Enjoy the R7, hopefully it will work out for you.
 

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Yes, I failed to put that in post. They were on the right side, black ford explorer, but if you noticed after I passed, the rear horn was picking up stronger.
The rear facing antenna on the V1 has a wider field of view that gives it better off-axis detection range than the V1's forward facing antenna.

We've had numerous threads here at RDForum about the V1 getting longer range from the rear antenna than from the front antenna. This is true for off-axis detection.

But keep this in mind unless you are driving in reverse towards the radar source:

1. All radar detectors have some "alert persistence". That's so that very weak signals will come thru as a full "BEEP, BEEP" and not an easily ignored "bip". The detector continues to alert for a short time even after the signal is no longer detectable. Obviously, the reverse cannot be true. No detector can alert BEFORE it detects the first weak signal.

2. Detectors may be better at continuing to detect very weak signals than they are at initially detecting a very weak signal and deciding that it is real. Once you pass the radar source your detector already knows that the signal is worth reporting, and just has to continue doing so.
 

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Sorry the V1 didn't work out for you. We all have our preferences/expectations for an RD and nothing wrong with trying out something new. Like you said, it's difficult to change once your used to something. Enjoy the R7, hopefully it will work out for you.
Thanks!
 

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I've been driving around the backwoods of NH for the past few days, facing NHSP and locals running 35.5 in the heavily forested hills and mountains. No problems at all with my V1 running PSL++, and several great saves before cresting hills or coming around corners. Detectors easily pay for themselves after a day or two of driving in NH!

The arrows came in handy several times as well, with LEOs lying in wait backed into the woods and pulling out after you pass.
 

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Not a 1st time RD user, nor am I suffering from "alert anxiety". It was more of a "this thing has short range anxiety".
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If you understand that the R series has superior range, then why is there doubt? I'm one of the few folks that believe the Redline-O is equal to the R series in range(At least I believe mines does). I've seen it sniff out and latch on to various bands from some amazing angles, distances, and around buildings. I can't prove it, cause I didn't always have a dash camera, but I'm sure there are plenty members on here with amazing detection stories that you would have to see to believe.
Looks like we agree again! My Redline-O has X band turned off and is segged on 5-6-8. K band is also on. RDR is of course off. After reading @GTO_04 's post on running TSR I've been running my Redline quite a bit lately since I sent my Whistler CR97 to Vortex for his upcoming tests. I've been switching between the Redline and my R1. With TSR on it is damn near as quiet as my R1! It's also every bit as good on K band, even with TSR on! I knew about TSR years ago but for some reason never tried it. On 34.7 my R1 edges the Redline out, but on 35.5 my Redline edges out the R1. On severe off axis, the R1 wins out and is amazing! Both of them spank my V1 on 34.7 and 35.5, but on K band, at least with pop turned on, my V1 is better than both of them! The V1 is also faster and better against Q/T and I/O than both of them, although the Redline is very close. I can 100% guarantee that I am not biased in any way against any of these detectors! I love them all and can't bring myself to sell any of them!
 
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Thank You! That's all I was trying to get across. Wasn't trying to make it seem like one RD is better than another. But with that being said....I've packed up the V1 yesterday for return, and placed my order with BRD for the R7. It was nice while it lasted. I got a taste for the arrows, and I just gotta have them with that R series range.
In a week we can expect another weak detection video with R7? hehe
 

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I've been driving around the backwoods of NH for the past few days, facing NHSP and locals running 35.5 in the heavily forested hills and mountains. No problems at all with my V1 running PSL++, and several great saves before cresting hills or coming around corners. Detectors easily pay for themselves after a day or two of driving in NH!

The arrows came in handy several times as well, with LEOs lying in wait backed into the woods and pulling out after you pass.
I forgot to give a shout out to @johnboy00's new smart BSM filters for GMs and Acuras in JBV1! The detector has been so quiet I forgot it was working :)
 

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I forgot to give a shout out to @johnboy00's new smart BSM filters for GMs and Acuras in JBV1! The detector has been so quiet I forgot it was working :)
Yeah, this is no lie...a very effective way of eliminating 99.9% of the BSM I come across. :happyanim:
 

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In an urban/suburban environment, I find that the V1's ability on 35.5 compared to the R3/R1 is generally about 60% of the distance. Admittedly I haven't had many 35.5 alerts to judge but the few I've had seem to be falling at that 60% point. To me that doesn't translate to much because 35.5 is much shorter on the R3/R1 than other frequencies.
On Ka 34.7, if the R3 gets a crazy sniff, it's much better than the V1... and every other detector I've used. Normally, they are closer together though, I'd say that in the City or suburban environment, less than 60 feet difference.... If that's important to you.

K-band...
Wednesday, I had a local officer shooting C/O stationary K-band (24.170) in light traffic, some buildings, small hills etc nearby (Suburban environment)
I was able to get two runs in with the R3 from same direction (read same route) before he moved. (Originally came across it with my V1). Both R3 runs were within 5-10 feet of where it first popped up on the V1.
So for me, K-band detection range in an urban/suburban environment is similar with filtering enabled.

*Traffic Filter and K filter enabled on the R3 (1.48), TMF2 enabled on V1 (3.8952/JBV1)
We have all bands in my area, But 34.7 and 35.5 are the most common. 33.8, not as much, but yet still here. I guess that's why I love the R series.(I'd still be using my redline if it wasn't for them [email protected] BSM/CAS)
 

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We have all bands in my area, But 34.7 and 35.5 are the most common. 33.8, not as much, but yet still here. I guess that's why I love the R series.(I'd still be using my redline if it wasn't for them [email protected] BSM/CAS)
BTW, I've pre-ordered a R7 as well, since all testing had indicated it's the most sensitive WS mount detector ever made. The two things that stood out most to me from the early leak were auto-lockout capabilities and the 1dB sensitivity increase from the redesigned front condenser lens. I feel like the latter has easily been borne out, and the former will be a work in progress. At this point I'm more interested in potential allowances for BT or serial communication, and looking forward to tearing down the detector as soon as I receive it :)

I can envision scenarios where the significantly increased sensitivity of the R1/R3/R7 would be beneficial/necessary (especially against selective I/O in the crazy terrain @Choose Life and @Kennyc56 face daily), but in practice, even in the challenging terrain of the Northeast, the V1 has given me plenty of warning against everything I have come up against.

I'm looking forward to running both around New England, but still feel the V1 will be slightly easier to live with due to the additional BSM muting provided by JBV1.
 

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BTW, I've pre-ordered a R7 as well, since all testing had indicated it's the most sensitive WS mount detector ever made. The two things that stood out most to me from the early leak were auto-lockout capabilities and the 1dB sensitivity increase from the redesigned front condenser lens. I feel like the latter has easily been borne out, and the former will be a work in progress. At this point I'm more interested in potential allowances for BT or serial communication, and looking forward to tearing down the detector as soon as I receive it :)

I can envision scenarios where the significantly increased sensitivity of the R1/R3/R7 would be beneficial/necessary (especially against selective I/O in the crazy terrain @Choose Life and @Kennyc56 face daily), but in practice, even in the challenging terrain of the Northeast, the V1 has given me plenty of warning against everything I have come up against.

I'm looking forward to running both around New England, but still feel the V1 will be slightly easier to live with due to the additional BSM muting provided by JBV1.
Hey, like everyone has been telling me, run what's going to work best for you. I tried it, and I knew after a week, it wasn't going to work for me. I know what and where I drive in. More range(sensitivity), the better.
 

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Hey, like everyone has been telling me, run what's going to work best for you. I tried it, and I knew after a week, it wasn't going to work for me. I know what and where I drive in. More range(sensitivity), the better.
As long as you don't get any tickets, we're happy!

There is no better feeling than having your detector warn you of an oncoming LEO or speed trap that you know would've gotten you pulled and given a ticket if your detector hadn't warned you otherwise :)
 

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We have all bands in my area, But 34.7 and 35.5 are the most common. 33.8, not as much, but yet still here. I guess that's why I love the R series.(I'd still be using my redline if it wasn't for them [email protected] BSM/CAS)
No 33.8 within 100 miles of me.
A few 35.5. Even with both my R3's and my R1, I'm lucky to get a 1/4 mile. More seem to fall slightly less. My V1 will give me .15-.20 mi pretty consistently. Note, this is urban to suburban driving. Police here usually use stationary C/O and make use of cover to keep their range short.
34.7 is really where the R-series can shine by getting mind blowing detections, where it can just be that little bit better than the V1, and where it can be really frustrating...at least in the area I drive. The problem is not raw detection, it's the pointless moon sniffs that seem to pop up then disappear completely. The V1, though shorter range, provides adequate distance and gives me directional information around town.
To me, where the V1 will still beat the R7 is quietness and the app features. I've wanted K band frequency announcement, concealed display, easy switching of settings, logging, and effective BSM filtering on my R3. I've got that with the V1 with JBV1.
So right now, it's V1 around town and my R3 on the highway. Both mounted, ready to go, and the switch is one off, the other on.
I think almost any of the top detectors do a good enough job for most people. The trick is to find what you like and use it efficiently.
 

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No 33.8 within 100 miles of me.
A few 35.5. Even with both my R3's and my R1, I'm lucky to get a 1/4 mile. More seem to fall slightly less. My V1 will give me .15-.20 mi pretty consistently. Note, this is urban to suburban driving. Police here usually use stationary C/O and make use of cover to keep their range short.
34.7 is really where the R-series can shine by getting mind blowing detections, where it can just be that little bit better than the V1, and where it can be really frustrating...at least in the area I drive. The problem is not raw detection, it's the pointless moon sniffs that seem to pop up then disappear completely. The V1, though shorter range, provides adequate distance and gives me directional information around town.
To me, where the V1 will still beat the R7 is quietness and the app features. I've wanted K band frequency announcement, concealed display, easy switching of settings, logging, and effective BSM filtering on my R3. I've got that with the V1 with JBV1.
So right now, it's V1 around town and my R3 on the highway. Both mounted, ready to go, and the switch is one off, the other on.
I think almost any of the top detectors do a good enough job for most people. The trick is to find what you like and use it efficiently.
LOL...You're so right! We're all owners of the top detectors on the market, and yet we quibble about nothing. When you really think about it, think of all the poor saps that are running department store RD's that think they are protected.
 

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LOL...You're so right! We're all owners of the top detectors on the market, and yet we quibble about nothing. When you really think about it, think of all the poor saps that are running department store RD's that think they are protected.
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