My 1st Week With The V1....Umm...

Kennyc56

Ford Lover-I/O hater!
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2018
Messages
2,880
Reaction score
7,325
Location
I/O Hell, Aka Eastern N.C.
It was a good detection. But I think that those who called it a monster detection (I'm looking at you @BaileyAB) haven't spent much (if any) time with an R series.
I agree! I love my V1 as much as anyone, but My R1's and Redline are in a different world when it comes to range, especially off axis and forward facing. That's why I started running my Redline with my V1 years ago! The Redline would get the alert before my V1, sometimes more than a mile before. I would get slowed down, then my V1 would catch up and point to where the alert was coming from. And yes, Ka guard was off! I've never even tried running with Ka guard on. My R1 and Redline are pretty close until the off axis gets really crazy, that's where the R1 blows my mind! If you're coming from a R3 to a V1 you will notice a big drop in range and off axis, and I have a very hot V1! It recently got 35.5 from the front AND rear from 4 miles during testing!
 
Last edited:

mswlogo

Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2014
Messages
3,469
Reaction score
3,281
Location
MA
Didn't hardwire it yet, hence this post. Not sure if it's staying or not. That's why i said minor issue.
Post automatically merged:
I knew this was going to be a touchy post, but I didn't expect to get the 3rd degree cross examination of my own personal experience. Just posted what I saw based against my other detectors.
I have no idea if you hard wired yet or not. I’m just commenting on your about your “hanging” comment. You can make the V1 install very tidy. Some folks complain if they have two vehicles they need two dongles to keep it tidy. But to save money some folks piggy back the Dongle on the V1 which works fine but not usually very pretty. Or piggy it on the cigarette lighter (fit things like rentals).
 

BaileyAB

Whats PSL? Autobahn bro, A.U.T.O.B.A.H.N.!!!!!
Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
1,661
Reaction score
3,129
Location
Alberta, Canada
I dont know what you guys are commenting anymore. This encounter was not an off axis encounter.
This was way pass 90 degrees, even more towards 180 than 90 degrees off axis, so more of a same direction encounter than an off axis. Front antenna was pointing towards field of trees aproximately 140 degrees away from V1 with one traffic sign in the middle of a highway served as a tinny reflection.
OP has this encounter named as V1 Short Alert? Are you kidding me? With TMF2 on and K band logic muting on this was monster detection.

I understand R series are superior in range than V1 but I doubt R1/R3 would pick this up on ramp in this same setup where Ka antenna is facing 140 degrees away from a detector.
 

LouG

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,796
Reaction score
3,043
I have no idea if you hard wired yet or not. I’m just commenting on your about your “hanging” comment. You can make the V1 install very tidy. Some folks complain if they have two vehicles they need two dongles to keep it tidy. But to save money some folks piggy back the Dongle on the V1 which works fine but not usually very pretty. Or piggy it on the cigarette lighter (fit things like rentals).
Or, you can stick the dongle to the screen with dual lock and transfer the whole set up from car to car. It's almost invisible from outside and gives a clean looking V1.
I even take a small piece of dual lock when I use a rental.

I think the OP is suffering alert anxiety, very common with a new detector, and among first time detector users.
 

Brainstorm69

TXCTG 2016 MOTY
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
May 23, 2015
Messages
9,421
Reaction score
20,296
Location
Lone Star State
I dont know what you guys are commenting anymore. This encounter was not an off axis encounter.
This was way pass 90 degrees, even more towards 180 than 90 degrees off axis, so more of a same direction encounter than an off axis. Front antenna was pointing towards field of trees aproximately 140 degrees away from V1 with one traffic sign in the middle of a highway served as a tinny reflection.
OP has this encounter named as V1 Short Alert? Are you kidding me? With TMF2 on and K band logic muting on this was monster detection.

I understand R series are superior in range than V1 but I doubt R1/R3 would pick this up on ramp in this same setup where Ka antenna is facing 140 degrees away from a detector.
More like 110 degrees. But still a good detection at a quarter mile. Maybe a great detection for a V1. I'm just saying that it would be a pretty pedestrian detection for an R.

And I've seen the R do over half a mile in testing with a K-band gun pointed 90 degrees to the course under the right conditions. Not saying it would have happened here, but it could.

Darlington V1 Alert.jpg
 

OBeerWANKenobi

This is not the car you're looking for.....
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,991
Reaction score
10,384
Location
Right Behind You! (Wisconsin)
Here's a 35.5 example on an R3.


Here's a continuation of that encounter showing that he's definitely using his front antenna.

 

Mushin

Chillax
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2012
Messages
1,387
Reaction score
3,547
Location
Waiting beyond the pale
Here's a 35.5 example on an R3.
Help me understand.
The title of the first video is: R3 picks up 35.5 facing away. So does that mean he was only using his front antenna? How do you tell that? By ramp up? Can you tell by frequency? Does the rear have a higher or lower frequency?

This grasshopper has soooo much to learn. Thanks in advance.
 

Tallyho

Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2013
Messages
3,111
Reaction score
5,686
Here's a 35.5 example on an R3.


Here's a continuation of that encounter showing that he's definitely using his front antenna.

This is why it's difficult to compare detections. The video shows a much easier detection comparatively, even though it's on 35.5.

Why? You'd think that having to detect a 180 degree facing gun is even more difficult than a 110 degree one, yet this detection is on axis since the passing vehicles are providing a perfect reflection back to you as if the radar is pointing directly at you.

Without doing comparative runs with various detectors it's impossible to use this as an example of anything.
 

OBeerWANKenobi

This is not the car you're looking for.....
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
3,991
Reaction score
10,384
Location
Right Behind You! (Wisconsin)
Help me understand.
The title of the first video is: R3 picks up 35.5 facing away. So does that mean he was only using his front antenna? How do you tell that? By ramp up? Can you tell by frequency? Does the rear have a higher or lower frequency?

This grasshopper has soooo much to learn. Thanks in advance.
Yes, he was only using his front antenna and he was actually shooting traffic on the opposite side of the divided highway coming towards me. It may be a little hard to tell in the video but he was slightly angled with his nose to the left.

Signal strength is probably the biggest clue on which antenna they're using The ramp up definitely plays apart as well. If he would have been pointing at me the R3 would have went nuts long before I passed him. Also their set up as a big clue. He was really only set up to go after traffic On the opposite side of the highway. He would have had to back up and do half of a y turn to take Chase soundtrack on my side.

In this case frequency really only plays a part in knowing if he's switched antennas since the R3 will now give you a boggy tone when that happens and tell you the new frequency.
Post automatically merged:
This is why it's difficult to compare detections. The video shows a much easier detection comparatively, even though it's on 35.5.

Why? You'd think that having to detect a 180 degree facing gun is even more difficult than a 110 degree one, yet this detection is on axis since the passing vehicles are providing a perfect reflection back to you as if the radar is pointing directly at you.

Without doing comparative runs with various detectors it's impossible to use this as an example of anything.
For sure the reflections are what matter in these types of detections. Bailey was making the claim that it was closer to 180 degrees in the detection under discussion which is why I posted this detection as an example.

Also the detection and question was in an urban area and in my case the radar waves only had the cars to bounce off of. Lastly my example is 35.5, which should hamper it even more.
Post automatically merged:
Oh and on the subject of reflections.... During our course scouting darkpenguin and I tried a 90 degree 35.5 setup with almost nothing to reflect off of and tested it against a V1 and the R3. They were within about 30 ft of each other on the detection....... The kicker is both of them detected it at around 100 yards. I wish we had it on video but it's an easy place to set up on so we can probably do it again sometime.
 
Last edited:

zero187

SSJ Speeder
Beginner User
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Messages
97
Reaction score
108
Location
United States of Amerijuana
I haven't had the pleasure of driving with an R series detector yet, but like others have said, that K band detection was really good in your first vid considering the positioning of the officer.

Only thing that may help a bit is repositioning the detector up a little more? I could be wrong though, but I place mine right in the top/middle area of windshield.
 

Rocky Road

Traveling Past Slow Pokes One Car At A Time
Intermediate User
Joined
Mar 23, 2017
Messages
678
Reaction score
1,029
Location
South Carolina
If you're coming from a R3 to a V1 you will notice a big drop in range and off axis, and I have a very hot V1! It recently got 35.5 from the front AND rear from 4 miles during testing!
Thank You! That's all I was trying to get across. Wasn't trying to make it seem like one RD is better than another. But with that being said....I've packed up the V1 yesterday for return, and placed my order with BRD for the R7. It was nice while it lasted. I got a taste for the arrows, and I just gotta have them with that R series range.
 
Last edited:

Tallyho

Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2013
Messages
3,111
Reaction score
5,686
Thank You! That's all I was trying to get across. Wasn't trying to make it seem like one RD is better than another. But with that being said....I've packed up the V1 yesterday for return, and placed my order with BRD for the R7. It was nice while it lasted. I got a taste for the arrows, and I just gotta have them with that R series range.
Did VR want to know why, if you contacted them?
 

Kennyc56

Ford Lover-I/O hater!
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2018
Messages
2,880
Reaction score
7,325
Location
I/O Hell, Aka Eastern N.C.
Thank You! That's all I was trying to get across. Wasn't trying to make it seem like one RD is better than another. But with that being said....I've packed up the V1 yesterday for return, and placed my order with BRD for the R7. It was nice while it lasted. I got a taste for the arrows, and I just gotta have them with that R series range.
You're welcome! I know exactly how you feel. I love the arrows too, but I love raw range much more. That's why the R7 is going to be the bomb! It's got both!
 
Last edited:

gnarc0tic

PSL + Yeet
General User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2019
Messages
25
Reaction score
45
Location
Oklahoma city
This was in Darlington? I'm originally from Hartsville but i'm stationed in Virginia Beach. Off topic question, what other bands are used in the area?
 

Rocky Road

Traveling Past Slow Pokes One Car At A Time
Intermediate User
Joined
Mar 23, 2017
Messages
678
Reaction score
1,029
Location
South Carolina
This was in Darlington? I'm originally from Hartsville but i'm stationed in Virginia Beach. Off topic question, what other bands are used in the area?
All of them, except for X. The K are rare, as that black explorer and a crown vic are the only 2 I've come across in Darlington.
 

LouG

PSL +5
Intermediate User
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,796
Reaction score
3,043
I'm waiting with bated breath for the R7 stories.
 

AllenDoc

In JBV1 I Trust - Valentine Tifosi - PSL+6
Advanced User
Lifetime Premium Member
Joined
Aug 13, 2018
Messages
1,173
Reaction score
4,847
Location
Space Coast, FL
I'm waiting with bated breath for the R7 stories.
I wonder what the over/under is for Code Browns for the R7 to be reported unbiasedly?

IMO any new product will be the best RD in the world to justify the money spent by the consumer if it doesn't allow returns.... Atleast a few weeks until any Code Brown reports I would guess. I don't believe R7 allows returns, maybe they do.

I will follow @Rocky Road with his review of the R7 as he is very unbiased and has a camera. Especially since he has used JBV1. Too bad the R7 won't allow any alert logs to review, especially if the same LEO is encountered.

And VR has a V1 at a discount soon to a lucky owner :)
 

Rocky Road

Traveling Past Slow Pokes One Car At A Time
Intermediate User
Joined
Mar 23, 2017
Messages
678
Reaction score
1,029
Location
South Carolina
I think the OP is suffering alert anxiety, very common with a new detector, and among first time detector users.
Not a 1st time RD user, nor am I suffering from "alert anxiety". It was more of a "this thing has short range anxiety".
Post automatically merged:
I understand R series are superior in range than V1 but I doubt R1/R3 would pick this up on ramp in this same setup where Ka antenna is facing 140 degrees away from a detector.
If you understand that the R series has superior range, then why is there doubt? I'm one of the few folks that believe the Redline-O is equal to the R series in range(At least I believe mines does). I've seen it sniff out and latch on to various bands from some amazing angles, distances, and around buildings. I can't prove it, cause I didn't always have a dash camera, but I'm sure there are plenty members on here with amazing detection stories that you would have to see to believe.
 
Last edited:

asleeper

Advanced User
Premium Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
1,286
Reaction score
2,212
Location
Virginia
I wonder what the over/under is for Code Browns for the R7 to be reported unbiasedly?

IMO any new product will be the best RD in the world to justify the money spent by the consumer if it doesn't allow returns.... Atleast a few weeks until any Code Brown reports I would guess. I don't believe R7 allows returns, maybe they do.

I will follow @Rocky Road with his review of the R7 as he is very unbiased and has a camera. Especially since he has used JBV1. Too bad the R7 won't allow any alert logs to review, especially if the same LEO is encountered.

And VR has a V1 at a discount soon to a lucky owner :)
I'd also like to see some unbiased V1 vs R7 reviews. As for code brown's, if the R3 is an indicator of things to come, the R7 will probably have the similar issues. Lastly, there is the R7 turning out to be not so stealthy as Uniden originally claimed. It will be interesting to see if this problem is corrected in the production models.
 

Discord Server

Latest threads

Forum statistics

Threads
79,288
Messages
1,207,057
Members
20,115
Latest member
flipcoin
Top