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So I'm getting ready for testing this weekend, updating all my detectors, and configuring all the settings for testing. I'm not as familiar with the Whistler settings, so I'd love some recommendations for the best settings. @Kennyc56 was kind enough to help me get things set up before shipping his detector out, and I wanted to go over things with you all to learn a little bit more.

In general, I've got all my detectors set up with the Ka Filters off, segmented 2/5/8. X off, K and Ka on. Pretty standard. I'm only planning on testing Ka band this weekend. I doubt we'll have enough time for K band too.

For the CR97, I'm thinking XK Filter1, Ka Filter 1, Ka MaxId, FDSr ###.

For the Ka Filter, there is an option to bring it down to 0, but 1 is the default. What are you guys' thoughts on all the optimal settings?
 

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In my long course test Ka1 only got a 50 foot hit against 35.5 compared to Ka0, whereas it took a 500 foot hit against 34.7. But that was only 1 run per detector so it might have just gotten unlucky too. Apparently quite a lot of ka falses with Ka0 so not sure many people will realistically run it that way? Good luck for the w/e testing!
 

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So I'm getting ready for testing this weekend, updating all my detectors, and configuring all the settings for testing. I'm not as familiar with the Whistler settings, so I'd love some recommendations for the best settings. @Kennyc56 was kind enough to help me get things set up before shipping his detector out, and I wanted to go over things with you all to learn a little bit more.

In general, I've got all my detectors set up with the Ka Filters off, segmented 2/5/8. X off, K and Ka on. Pretty standard. I'm only planning on testing Ka band this weekend. I doubt we'll have enough time for K band too.

For the CR97, I'm thinking XK Filter1, Ka Filter 1, Ka MaxId, FDSr ###.

For the Ka Filter, there is an option to bring it down to 0, but 1 is the default. What are you guys' thoughts on all the optimal settings?
If you run it just like you printed the settings it will do great! 1 or 0 on the Ka filter won't make much difference, I'm just very hardcore, so I prefer 0! The main thing for range and quickness is to leave TFSR off and FDSr### on. I run k filter on 1 or 2 depending on what mood I'm in! I sure hope you do some Q/T shots against it! Set up like this good luck trying to get anything past it! BTW, @VariableWave and I got 35.5 C/O from just a tick less than 4 miles with my CR95, which is the same platform as the 97 minus the GPS.
 
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So I'm getting ready for testing this weekend, updating all my detectors, and configuring all the settings for testing. I'm not as familiar with the Whistler settings, so I'd love some recommendations for the best settings. @Kennyc56 was kind enough to help me get things set up before shipping his detector out, and I wanted to go over things with you all to learn a little bit more.

In general, I've got all my detectors set up with the Ka Filters off, segmented 2/5/8. X off, K and Ka on. Pretty standard. I'm only planning on testing Ka band this weekend. I doubt we'll have enough time for K band too.

For the CR97, I'm thinking XK Filter1, Ka Filter 1, Ka MaxId, FDSr ###.

For the Ka Filter, there is an option to bring it down to 0, but 1 is the default. What are you guys' thoughts on all the optimal settings?
When I use my CR97, those are the settings (both filters at 1) I use except I keep the FDSr off as the false alarms dramatically and significantly increase with it on in my CR97 (the opposite of what I would expect). I am in the minority on the Whistler forum as most people on here run FDSr on. I also keep TSFR on, but I think most others keep it off (which is the default setting). I will defer to @Kennyc56 on the settings since he sent you his CR97, and he is familiar how his CR97 performs on his preferred settings. I am looking forward to your test results.


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So I'm getting ready for testing this weekend, updating all my detectors, and configuring all the settings for testing. I'm not as familiar with the Whistler settings, so I'd love some recommendations for the best settings. @Kennyc56 was kind enough to help me get things set up before shipping his detector out, and I wanted to go over things with you all to learn a little bit more.

In general, I've got all my detectors set up with the Ka Filters off, segmented 2/5/8. X off, K and Ka on. Pretty standard. I'm only planning on testing Ka band this weekend. I doubt we'll have enough time for K band too.

For the CR97, I'm thinking XK Filter1, Ka Filter 1, Ka MaxId, FDSr ###.

For the Ka Filter, there is an option to bring it down to 0, but 1 is the default. What are you guys' thoughts on all the optimal settings?
@Vortex,
I have more that one setup suggestion, depending on the situation:

If we are talking about OPTIMAL settings for a daily use, then what everyone else here has already suggested is valid - the general agreement of XK 2 or 3, and Ka 0 or 1, Ka Max ID, FDSr #### (ON). The TFSR is a big variable, depending on the traffic type and density. In rural areas or light traffic, it's best to keep it OFF, as it causes big delay in alerting (reduced range). But on major Interstates (lots of semi trucks - their BSM-type of signal is very strong), or in heavy traffic, TFSR is better to be ON, or else the false alerts will be non-stop.

If we are talking about TEST settings in regards to best/quickest reactivity and range, then definitely TFSR OFF and FDSr ON. That is just to find out what the detector is really capable of. And I am very interested to see how it does against Q/T and I/O (both, on straight and around bends, maybe hills).

One glitch I keep seeing is the incorrect frequency displayed when there is a real alert and a BSM present at the same time. Depending on signal strength, the detector alternates the alert between K band and the legit Ka with weird ID (34.0, 34.3, 34.9 - I've seen them all)...

Regardless, I am looking forward your testing and results...

Thank you for taking the time to evaluate this unit!
 

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I am also interested in this test!

I have a hard time seeing where the CR97 fits in with the DFR7 or R1 on a cost or performance basis, especially with some of the falsing issues that have been reported. I'm sure your testing will help clarify much of this for those considering the CR97 as a daily driver.

Have you received any clarification from Whistler regarding the FCC IDs? At last check, it looked like they were recycling FCC approvals (a la Rocky Mountain Radar), which doesn't inspire confidence. Not to mention RadarBusters is the only authorized retailer :oops:
 

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Good morning, all.
Any news/results yet for this past weekend's test??
 

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Good morning, all.
Any news/results yet for this past weekend's test??
The CR97’s performance was pretty disappointing unfortunately. I’ll have the results up once I can. There’s a lot to go through.
 

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Good morning, all.

If anyone is not yet aware - the test results are posted on @Vortex's website:

Uniden R7 Long Range Testing vs. R3, Max360c, Pro M, V1, and more
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Good morning, all.

If anyone is not yet aware - the test results are posted on @Vortex's website:

Uniden R7 Long Range Testing vs. R3, Max360c, Pro M, V1, and more
I find it a bit odd that the CR97 did better on 35.5 in comparison with 34.7. Any thoughts on this? Could it be lower sensitivity (power) on the radar itself?
 

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Good morning, all.

If anyone is not yet aware - the test results are posted on @Vortex's website:

Uniden R7 Long Range Testing vs. R3, Max360c, Pro M, V1, and more
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I find it a bit odd that the CR97 did better on 35.5 in comparison with 34.7. Any thoughts on this? Could it be lower sensitivity (power) on the radar itself?
I noticed the results the second they were posted. I didn't say anything at first because I am trying to understand how I get such monster distance with my CR97 every day and in my testing, and it fell flat on it's @ss on his test. He had his guns angled a bit to separate the detectors. The CR97 is weak on off axis, so I guess that explains it. This doesn't change my opinion one bit about my CR97 however! My CR97 seems pretty equal on 34.7 and 35.5 against the state troopers I have faced so far. It was cool to have my CR97 tested by Vortex!
 
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That was excellent testing (as usual). I figured the '97 was going to be noisy but it's cool to note that it ran close to but behind the Radenso and the Valentine. I keep the volume on 1. Its a fun unit. I do like the interface. The redlight database for me is great and free! I have an S4 and last summer I did get a very close save, so I understand what Vortex was talking about with respect to it. Again...I like my '97 and I feel safe using it.
 

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That was excellent testing (as usual). I figured the '97 was going to be noisy but it's cool to note that it ran close to but behind the Radenso and the Valentine. I keep the volume on 1. Its a fun unit. I do like the interface. The redlight database for me is great and free! I have an S4 and last summer I did get a very close save, so I understand what Vortex was talking about with respect to it. Again...I like my '97 and I feel safe using it.
I think the CR97 would have done better on this testing if the radar antenna was positioned differently. As @Kennyc56 mentioned, the antenna appears to be angled to the left in regards to the windshield. That makes the targets approaching to be off-axis to a certain degree. And the Whistler is not good in that aspect, unless there is some solid object(s) around to reflect the signal in its favor...
 

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I think the CR97 would have done better on this testing if the radar antenna was positioned differently. As @Kennyc56 mentioned, the antenna appears to be angled to the left in regards to the windshield. That makes the targets approaching to be off-axis to a certain degree. And the Whistler is not good in that aspect, unless there is some solid object(s) around to reflect the signal in its favor...
You're right! I was hoping he would do a long distance test with no off axis involved but deep down I knew somehow that wasn't going to happen. I'm not knocking his tests, but off axis kills the CR97 making it look a lot worse than it really is in every day real life encounters against real cops. As you guys know, I own the very best detectors ever made, yet I still am proud to run the CR97 and feel very protected against anything these NC state troopers can throw at it! It still is far from perfect as we all know however, and they really need to do some work on the off axis because it really does suck! It took a detector that we tested and got at 4 miles and dropped it to 1600 feet! Vortex did a great job testing all of those detectors! Off axis really lets the big dogs strut their stuff! The CR97 just can't compete with my R1 or Redline against off axis as we've also shown on testing videos. If you ever get to run a radar gun however, you would be surprised just how straight the target car has to be to lock in a speed, I know I sure was!
 

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I think the CR97 would have done better on this testing if the radar antenna was positioned differently. As @Kennyc56 mentioned, the antenna appears to be angled to the left in regards to the windshield. That makes the targets approaching to be off-axis to a certain degree. And the Whistler is not good in that aspect, unless there is some solid object(s) around to reflect the signal in its favor...
It may have done better, yes, but then every other detector would do better too. Sometimes the antenna is repositioned a little bit to show more separation between detectors so we can see which detectors are more sensitive than others. It's not particularly helpful if literally every detector alerts at the same spot. It's great to know that in some situations, every detector can alert in the same spot, but it doesn't help us see which detectors are more sensitive than others.

Now as for angling the radar antenna in this case, if I angled it more down the course itself, the radar gun would literally be unable to get the speed of cars driving by so I know people may complain about the antenna not being pointed down range of the course, but it's what officers would do if they'd actually want to be able to get the speed of vehicles driving by. This is what happens on curvy roads. The radar antenna is pointed where it needs to be to get nearby vehicle's speeds, not necessarily pointed down range of other roads way off in the distance where an officer couldn't measure them in the first place.
 

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It may have done better, yes, but then every other detector would do better too. Sometimes the antenna is repositioned a little bit to show more separation between detectors so we can see which detectors are more sensitive than others. It's not particularly helpful if literally every detector alerts at the same spot. It's great to know that in some situations, every detector can alert in the same spot, but it doesn't help us see which detectors are more sensitive than others.

Now as for angling the radar antenna in this case, if I angled it more down the course itself, the radar gun would literally be unable to get the speed of cars driving by so I know people may complain about the antenna not being pointed down range of the course, but it's what officers would do if they'd actually want to be able to get the speed of vehicles driving by. This is what happens on curvy roads. The radar antenna is pointed where it needs to be to get nearby vehicle's speeds, not necessarily pointed down range of other roads way off in the distance where an officer couldn't measure them in the first place.
@Vortex,
Thank you for the explanation. Full disclosure here, I did not by any means questioned the test setup (I myself am learning a lot here and never claimed I know it all), just wanted to point out that it would affect the detection range, and also pointed the weakness of the Whistler in this regards.
 

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Yep, off axis, on the '97, does seem to be a bit of an issue that I have experienced with a NY State LEO running Ka constant on. No ticket, but it gave me a minimal brake time warning.
 

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