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This is not an RDF issue, but there are some other forums I frequent that my mobile browser will get hijacked to a very invasive ad for "Google" or "Amazon" that's usually "Congratulations, you've won a..."

Obviously, this is a scam, but it's also damn near impossible to back out of the site, or even close the web browser sometimes.

Blokada seems to prevent this, so I'm guessing it happens with forums that serve ads, which is why it never happens on RDF. The problem is Blokada also seems to break some of the functionality of those forums as well.

Is there a better way to do this that I don't know about? I know some of you are pretty tech savvy and much more solid than I about internet things, so I figured I'd ask. It's an android phone (S8+ on Verizon if that matters), running chrome.
 

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I only ever seen to get that kind of thing on mobile browsers and would also love to know if there’s any way to prevent it.
 

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The best in my experience has been to contact that forums administrator and let them know which add is doing it, if you can narrow it down, most all of them will want to get rid of it if they can.
 

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This is not an RDF issue, but there are some other forums I frequent that my mobile browser will get hijacked to a very invasive ad for "Google" or "Amazon" that's usually "Congratulations, you've won a..."

Obviously, this is a scam, but it's also damn near impossible to back out of the site, or even close the web browser sometimes.

Blokada seems to prevent this, so I'm guessing it happens with forums that serve ads, which is why it never happens on RDF. The problem is Blokada also seems to break some of the functionality of those forums as well.

Is there a better way to do this that I don't know about? I know some of you are pretty tech savvy and much more solid than I about internet things, so I figured I'd ask. It's an android phone (S8+ on Verizon if that matters), running chrome.
Adguard

I have it for PC and Android. Here is my screenshot of Android blocking since March 15th.
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Thank you for posting about this. I hate that fuc king advertisement. I was worried I had malware on my phone. If that’s possible.
 

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I will look into adguard.
Third-party advertising technology (ad tech) trackers from 112 companies were found on 89% of official government websites of EU member states by Cookiebot, a cookie and online tracking consent solution, after scanning 184,683 pages.


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There are a few different type of solutions you can look at. Just like CMs, a layered approach is best.

  1. Utilize an Ad-filtering DNS service provider (such as SafeDNS) or run your own, Pi-Hole Ad-blocking DNS Server
  2. Connect via an ad-blocking proxy or run your own, Privoxy.
  3. Run an adblock plugin such as uBlock Origin.
If you haven't fallen asleep yet reading this, you can take it to the next level yet by employing methods to apply these changes to your entire network such as WPAD auto-proxy configuration on your network, making devices autoconfigure themselves to use the Privoxy, and additionally customizing the DNS servers assigned by your Router's DHCP server to point them to your DNS filtering server internally.
 

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There are a few different type of solutions you can look at. Just like CMs, a layered approach is best.

  1. Utilize an Ad-filtering DNS service provider (such as SafeDNS) or run your own, Pi-Hole Ad-blocking DNS Server
  2. Connect via an ad-blocking proxy or run your own, Privoxy.
  3. Run an adblock plugin such as uBlock Origin.
If you haven't fallen asleep yet reading this, you can take it to the next level yet by employing methods to apply these changes to your entire network such as WPAD auto-proxy configuration on your network, making devices autoconfigure themselves to use the Privoxy, and additionally customizing the DNS servers assigned by your Router's DHCP server to point them to your DNS filtering server internally.
So if you go full home network blocking, have you ever noticed problems or interruptions with services like netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, online gaming, or general use of streaming devices like a Roku or Apple TV?
 

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There are a few different type of solutions you can look at. Just like CMs, a layered approach is best.

  1. Utilize an Ad-filtering DNS service provider (such as SafeDNS) or run your own, Pi-Hole Ad-blocking DNS Server
  2. Connect via an ad-blocking proxy or run your own, Privoxy.
  3. Run an adblock plugin such as uBlock Origin.
If you haven't fallen asleep yet reading this, you can take it to the next level yet by employing methods to apply these changes to your entire network such as WPAD auto-proxy configuration on your network, making devices autoconfigure themselves to use the Privoxy, and additionally customizing the DNS servers assigned by your Router's DHCP server to point them to your DNS filtering server internally.
That all depends if you have a large pipe and if your data is dirty or clean. For example if you prefer group ware and hot swapping then you can employ a dongle to pocket sniff their firmware in order to discover if they have a floppy disk or a hard drive.
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So if you go full home network blocking, have you ever noticed problems or interruptions with services like netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, online gaming, or general use of streaming devices like a Roku or Apple TV?
It depends how many blocking lists you subscribe to and how large they are. There is a whole list on pihole github of adblock lists. If you subscribe to a lot of privacy blocking then you will have issues with hosting services...but all you have to do is whitelist those. Yes, it will be a housekeep job for the first few days but than again most of us don't visit more than 100 favorite websites. After, that house keeping, you will be running a clean web. HOWEVER, the benefit of uOrgin and AdBlock over DNS filtering and Pihole is that some clever advertisers (like google and youtube) actually inject their ads via special script and syntex into the same server the service is being provided. THUS, you will still see those ads (especially adchoices) since otherwise you will be blocking the whole site. So AdBlock and uOrgin actually pre-cache the site on the fly and parse the ads out before it's fetched and displayed on your screen....that goes double for webbugs.
 
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So if you go full home network blocking, have you ever noticed problems or interruptions with services like netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, online gaming, or general use of streaming devices like a Roku or Apple TV?
It depends on the lists you subscribe to. If you leave the defaults, they're pretty safe and balanced. If I try to add in every possible list I can find, it is possible to overblock. I tend to prefer the lighter blocking on DNS + Privoxy, and then apply more restrictive blocking in the browser plugin. This way I won't break applications like my Xbox, Apple TV, Nest home thermostat, etc.
 

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So pretend you're me, aim4squirrels, certified internet moron...how do I get started, or is there a single way to get me 90% of the way there?

I'm an admitted dunce about this stuff. I'd love to set the home network up to filter for any device that connects to it, and then I suppose I could live with ads away from the house, but if it breaks functionality, I don't know that I'm smart enough to fix it. Is there an idiot's primer for doing this kind of stuff?
 

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So pretend you're me, aim4squirrels, certified internet moron...how do I get started, or is there a single way to get me 90% of the way there?

I'm an admitted dunce about this stuff. I'd love to set the home network up to filter for any device that connects to it, and then I suppose I could live with ads away from the house, but if it breaks functionality, I don't know that I'm smart enough to fix it. Is there an idiot's primer for doing this kind of stuff?
Is your concern mostly your browser experience, more so than internet-connected devices? If so, just use uBlock Origin and set it up and leave it at defaults.
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Here's the links to the official uBlock Origin. There are lots of shady adblock plugins and confusing knock-offs.

Chrome: uBlock Origin
Firefox: uBlock Origin – Get this Extension for Firefox (en-US)
Microsoft Edge: Get uBlock Origin - Microsoft Store

Installation instructions and links to all versions such as Safari and other browsers at: gorhill/uBlock
 
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Is your concern mostly your browser experience, more so than internet-connected devices? If so, just use uBlock Origin and set it up and leave it at defaults.
-- Double Post Merged: --
Here's the links to the official uBlock Origin. There are lots of shady adblock plugins and confusing knock-offs.

Chrome: uBlock Origin
Firefox: uBlock Origin – Get this Extension for Firefox (en-US)
Microsoft Edge: Get uBlock Origin - Microsoft Store

Installation instructions and links to all versions such as Safari and other browsers at: gorhill/uBlock
Yeah, it's mostly just how do I stop from getting hijacked when I want to visit a forum that has been somehow compromised.

Example, I'm also a member of avsforum.com. If you stay on their site for any length of time using a "naked" browser, eventually you'll load up a page that will hijack you to one of those damn "Congratulations...". Ads pages that you can't get off without a complete shutdown of the browser.

from what I've read, it's their ad service that's been compromised and a "dirty ad" will hijack the browser. Using Blockada on my S8+ has stopped it, but it also causes pages to load improperly and require refreshes and messes with the ability to scroll back and forth thru previous posts of topics due to the way they have it set up. At times, Blockada's interference with functionality is more intrusive than the hijacking.

Due to the nature of this site, the amount of ads and different kinds make it difficult to pin down which ad is doing it, and honestly, it shouldn't be my job to keep their site clean. So I'm just a dumb-dumb looking for a solution I can wrap my Neanderthal brain around.
 
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For mobile, some of the services have VPN apps. Those VPN apps solve the ad problem fairly simply for you with a hybrid of approaches. They implement a VPN connection "profile" on your phone, and force your phone to connect to their ad-filtering system. (Potentially, depending on the service provider) this sets your DNS servers to use their dns-filtering system in addition to configuring your phone to use an HTTP/S and or SOCKS proxy through their system, which may help filter additional things. The net effect may be that for mobile at least, it is a simpler option for you.

@tempnexus seems to have more experience with the all-in-one solution providers on this matter. I don't use any service providers for adfiltering and tend to "roll my own" in order to have more finite control over it -- but something like what TempNexus recommended may be good as a one stop service. I can't recommend them because I don't know if they check all my boxes for me, but maybe some people here have compared them more and know the underlying solutions that each service provider employs.
 

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Adguard is dead simple to setup and use.
 

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This is not an RDF issue, but there are some other forums I frequent that my mobile browser will get hijacked to a very invasive ad for "Google" or "Amazon" that's usually "Congratulations, you've won a..."

Obviously, this is a scam, but it's also damn near impossible to back out of the site, or even close the web browser sometimes.

Blokada seems to prevent this, so I'm guessing it happens with forums that serve ads, which is why it never happens on RDF. The problem is Blokada also seems to break some of the functionality of those forums as well.

Is there a better way to do this that I don't know about? I know some of you are pretty tech savvy and much more solid than I about internet things, so I figured I'd ask. It's an android phone (S8+ on Verizon if that matters), running chrome.
So basically one month of blocking based on my wireless phone.
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For mobile, some of the services have VPN apps. Those VPN apps solve the ad problem fairly simply for you with a hybrid of approaches. They implement a VPN connection "profile" on your phone, and force your phone to connect to their ad-filtering system.
I wouldn’t recommend this approach. Unless you are really doing your research on the VPN, this could easily turn into a “cure is worse than the disease” situation. A VPN funnels all your traffic through a 3rd party. Unless you trust that 3rd party, you shouldn’t do it. Take a look at this recent article from bleeping computer, a respected computer security site. Malware, User Privacy Failures Found in Top Free VPN Android Apps
 

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