Rocky Mountain Radar Makes Me Laugh

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Yep. They are the snake oil of detectors. Putting a rock on your dashboard works just as well. Plus with a rock, besides X, K, and Ka Band, you will be able to detect Rock Band. :D
 

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And put those claims of being "undetectable to police detector detectors" to the test. If not, you could always wrap it in aluminum foil. I hear that's the new way to "Spectre proof" a radar detector.
 

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He already did a review of the previous model here Rocky Mountain Radar Judge Radar Detector Review - Vortex Radar

Somehow I doubt they have made any real advancements in their “radar scrambling” capabilities with the new model. I would rather Vortex not even support them by purchasing a test unit based on the results from the first one.
 

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You know what we should talk about? The Rocky Mountain Radar subscription service :D

Stupid now comes in the form of a monthly subscription.



I actually saw this back in March two days after it was posted... but didn’t comment on it because I really didn’t know what to think. Part of me was waiting for RMR to announce bankruptcy or claim their site was hacked.

The way the payments are setup, they never lose money. You’re paying $130 for initial signup, $30 for shipping, and another $10/mo with a minimum commitment of 6 months. That’s $220. Cancel early before 6 months and they charge you an extra $100, so you’re better off waiting for the first six months to cancel.

My mind is going in so many places with this. I dare not say anything because I just can’t fathom the people falling for this “technology”. Plenty of testing has been done on RMR’s claims or stealth undetectability, radar jamming, and lidar jamming. It’s hogwash. But I suppose in the world there are bound to be those who want to blindly pay for “peace of mind”. They think their RMR works, so they blow by the rest of us on the freeway. Meanwhile we just use them as rabbits until they get painted and lit up, then there is another “ignorance is bliss” RMR-toting driver ready to step up for their turn to get burned.

How does the saying go? “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me repeatedly, time and time over again, with a subscription model and I must be really freaking stupid.”
 

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You know what we should talk about? The Rocky Mountain Radar subscription service :D

Stupid now comes in the form of a monthly subscription.



I actually saw this back in March two days after it was posted... but didn’t comment on it because I really didn’t know what to think. Part of me was waiting for RMR to announce bankruptcy or claim their site was hacked.

The way the payments are setup, they never lose money. You’re paying $130 for initial signup, $30 for shipping, and another $10/mo with a minimum commitment of 6 months. That’s $220. Cancel early before 6 months and they charge you an extra $100, so you’re better off waiting for the first six months to cancel.

My mind is going in so many places with this. I dare not say anything because I just can’t fathom the people falling for this “technology”. Plenty of testing has been done on RMR’s claims or stealth undetectability, radar jamming, and lidar jamming. It’s hogwash. But I suppose in the world there are bound to be those who want to blindly pay for “peace of mind”. They think their RMR works, so they blow by the rest of us on the freeway. Meanwhile we just use them as rabbits until they get painted and lit up, then there is another “ignorance is bliss” RMR-toting driver ready to step up for their turn to get burned.

How does the saying go? “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me repeatedly, time and time over again, with a subscription model and I must be really freaking stupid.”
Wow, I’m shocked they somehow found a way to screw people more. I’m not exactly sure how this company is still operating anyway. Apparently nobody has the time and/or energy to report their shady business practices to an authority.
 

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I think someone did report the RMR-C450 to the FCC. It was a double edge sword. The FCC found that the device did violate rules by intentionally emitting interference. Despite emitting the illegal interfering signals, it did not interfere in a practical way the reading of police radar. The only time it did cause bad radar readings was inside a building when the device was placed within a few feet of a radar gun. It would cause the radar gun to display speeds that jumped all over the place. 18mph, 64mph, 33mph, 87mph, changing every few hundredths of a second. When the unit was outside in a car being driven, the primary radar reflections off the car were greater in strength than the RMR devices emissions such that it did not interfere at all. Real world summary? It won’t work to keep them from reading your speed. The interference is measurable in a lab, but is so insignificant that it won’t change your outcome at all from police radar as you drive.

Back to the FCC case. The FCC tested the RMR C450 and found it to be intentionally emitting interference. RMR was fined and then prohibited from manufacturing or selling the RMR C450. They quickly made a new “complying” model, the C495 to appease the FCC. Meanwhile they keep up their sales pitches about jamming radar.

The problem is that the customers see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. I think it is a matter of people not taking the time to question things and reflect on the “how”, as well as consider the opposing opinions. I wouldn’t be surprised if RMR buys up targeted advertising lists full of Anti-Vaxers and Flat-Earthers. Seems like a perfect group to sell their product to.
 
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Back to the FCC case. The FCC tested the RMR C450 and found it to be intentionally emitting interference. RMR was fined and then prohibited from manufacturing or selling the RMR C450. They quickly made a new “complying” model, the C495 to appease the FCC. Meanwhile they keep up their sales pitches about jamming radar.
Since 2011, they've just been reusing old FCC IDs on all of their "new" detectors: Rocky Mountain Radar "The Judge"

So either they're playing fast and loose with the FCC (again), or just repackaging the same old detector in new cases (a la Escort?)

They're not alone though, it seems Whistler is re-using old FCC IDs as well with their "new" detectors: CR97 FCC ID?
 

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Some of the reviews are hilarious

"Its great radar detector, alot less flase detection and an at ease feeling knowing i have one up on any police looking for a speeder. I feel like i protecting other vehicle s around me as well."

Yes, you are protecting the other vehicles around you because you will be the one who gets the ticket :roflolmao:

and.....

"Fantastic product. Loved watching cop look at their laser gun and not able to pick my speed up."

 

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It bugs me that real people can’t leave a true review.

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So there is the whole issue of what happened in 2017. After Vortex did his videos on RMR in 2017, RMR called all their followers to come out and "right the wrongs" that had been done against them. They flooded Amazon reviews with their own reviews on the devices, and marked all the critical reviews as spam. They ended up getting Vortex's review removed, but went one step further and removed ALL of Vortex's reviews on Amazon about any product ever. The pendulum swings both ways.
 

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****ty RDs are good for this forum so we can't complain. I started with a cobra, a lot of us started with a **** RD and then found this website for good reason haha
 

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Look at some of his older vids. He's done one in the past.

Yeah, I saw that. @Vortex you showed GREAT restraint in the production of those videos. Very impressed.
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Wow, company's like this blows my mind. The audacity and arrogance is un-friggen-believable.
 
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this company was around when i was first looking into radar detectors 12 years ago. I remember their old claim was they would pay your ticket if you got one. I saw enough negative reviews and passed.
 

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