A new take on rear view mirror mounting - flipping the paradigm (plus a little fabrication)....

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So the background is that I recently acquired a Uniden R3 (thanks @chakeubeam !) after some really great advice on this forum. I had also saw people using mirror mounts which I thought looked good. So I ordered a generic one off ebay while the detector was still on its way to me - which actually turned out to be really good quality. I fitted it up (I posted images on another thread: DIY Uniden hardwire cable (now completed - with photos) ), but as others also commented, the detector was way too visible and it didn't look that tidy in my application. It kept bugging me so I bought a permanent sticky mount, and mounted the RD as high as I could go while avoiding fritz dots and retaining access to the top buttons. It was a lot better, but I couldn't use my sun visor, and the detector was still quite visible and exposed to the sun. I kept wondering about whether I could work out another way of using the mirror mount, and messed around with a few ideas. I had another idea today, and realised that I could mount the mirror mount upside down, and with a few mods I should be able to get the detector much higher, and a bit further back, while still being able to access the buttons and have the use of my sun visor back. Woohooo!! But I would need to make small offset bracket so that the mirror and mounting hardware didn't obstruct the front 'view' of the detector. I had a think about it and realised that I had everything I needed at home in our little shed, awesome!! With a little messing around I had it marked, drilled and cut to length. It's made of small but relatively thick aluminium bar (10 mm by 3 mm I think) painted with satin black paint, and couple of black self-tapping screws (from an old TV).

The new set up allows me to use my sun visor, gives me ample room to access the top buttons, is almost invisible unless you really look for it, and is out of the sun (helps keep it cool etc.).

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Nice work! It looks great and seems to be exactly what you were looking for.
Thanks! I was definitely stoked that it totally met every condition on my wish list :D It's kinda cool how the gap between the bottom of the fritz dots and the top of the RV mirror was practically exactly the same height of the RD lol. I'm going to leave the 'permanent' sticky mount in place for a while just in case there is some issue with the new set up, but it's looking good so far :)
 

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You seem to be concerned about the frits. Why? With rare exception they pose no problem whatsoever to radar detectors. They see right through them.
 

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You seem to be concerned about the frits. Why? With rare exception they pose no problem whatsoever to radar detectors. They see right through them.
I wasn't too worried about them to be honest, I did try to avoid them as much as I could for attaching the sticky mount as I was worried they would reduce adhesion. It kind of works out that even mounting the detector as high as you can go (using either mount) the fritz dots still don't sit in horizontal 'line of sight' in front of the detector. Aside from that. I just thought it was aesthetically cool that there was a perfectly sized clear space in front of the detector in it's new sneaky location :)
 

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The frits can sometimes make it harder for little suction cups to maintain their suction, but 3M adhesive tape has no problem at all. Regardless, it’s nice when things work out just right :)
 

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The frits can sometimes make it harder for little suction cups to maintain their suction, but 3M adhesive tape has no problem at all. Regardless, it’s nice when things work out just right :)
True :)

Anyway, I keep going outside the the carport to check my handiwork out... so stoked with it lol. It's as close as it can be to invisible from outside the car, I'm pretty happy just to leave it up when I park now :) Plus functioning sun visor and easy to push the top buttons, woot! lol
 

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Beautiful job!!!! I love it!
I appreciate a few things about your work KiwiClaire:
  • Your attention to alignment and flow
  • The number of factors that you concern yourself with
  • Your fabrication skills and thought processes for the fabrication
If it's not against any laws, I might suggest that you fill out the space above the mirror with something black so that it doesn't look like there is a device above the right side of the mirror. Attached are pics of mine with some black tape on the glass surrounding above the detector. The tape didn't last more than two months but I eventually tinted the top of the windshield. :)
 

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Hands down my favorite mirror mount I've seen to date! What a great job you did!
 

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That’s a solid way to mount and my only preferred choice as far as location. The BlendMount is great but it’s just such an eye sore to me, it’s distraction to have a dangling unit hanging below your mirror right in your sight path. I always tuck my detectors high up on the windshield scrubbing the headliner and it’s always worked out well. I may borrow this method as it would prove very useful for my ever changing needs for what detector to run without locking up a bunch of mounts to the tint strip with 3M. Good job!
 

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Very Creative
Nice Work.
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Would the R3 stick out too far in a smaller car?
& Have you verified the sun screen / mesh isn’t interfering with reception? Had problem in my KIA, looks like same mesh.
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Beautiful job!!!! I love it!
I appreciate a few things about your work KiwiClaire:
  • Your attention to alignment and flow
  • The number of factors that you concern yourself with
  • Your fabrication skills and thought processes for the fabrication
If it's not against any laws, I might suggest that you fill out the space above the mirror with something black so that it doesn't look like there is a device above the right side of the mirror. Attached are pics of mine with some black tape on the glass surrounding above the detector. The tape didn't last more than two months but I eventually tinted the top of the windshield. :)
Wow thanks, that is really kind of you to say :)

Well I think it's mostly a case of me being a fussy weirdo lol, but it was a fun little experiment :) I like working out was of using things in non-obvious ways to suit my devious ends lol. I used to do a practical/technical job before going back to uni, and always did my best to achieve a tidy and professional result for my customers. Luckily this was a pretty easy little job, I didn't even use a tape measure lol, just lined up by eye and scratch marked with a small screw driver, then drilled kneeling on my driveway with a battery drill lol. Who needs a work bench or to measure things! ;)

That's a good idea, I was considering that myself, I'm not sure what the legal situation is here though. I think I'll drive around as is for a bit and see how it looks from outside the car in various situations. The fritz dots around the mirror do a great job of obscuring the RD as is, you kind of have to bend down to really see it, same goes for the side windows :)

I tried it out driving around today, I wasn't sure if it would vibrate or whatever, but it turned out to be really stable - no discernible vibration or moving around at all, even better than the solid sticky mount. I have it touching the roof liner, about where the shiny Uniden label is, this really helps to damp out any vibration etc.

So all up, very stoked :) so much so that I removed the 'permanent' sticky mount (it only lasted about 3 days in my car lol!).

Thanks again for your kind comments. Claire


Hands down my favorite mirror mount I've seen to date! What a great job you did!
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I just hope it helps others on here if they're considering mounting options to have another method to choose from :)
Thanks for your kind comments :)

That’s a solid way to mount and my only preferred choice as far as location. The BlendMount is great but it’s just such an eye sore to me, it’s distraction to have a dangling unit hanging below your mirror right in your sight path. I always tuck my detectors high up on the windshield scrubbing the headliner and it’s always worked out well. I may borrow this method as it would prove very useful for my ever changing needs for what detector to run without locking up a bunch of mounts to the tint strip with 3M. Good job!
Me too, thought it looked good in what I'd seen online, though I was too poor to get an actual blend mount, so bought a generic one which wasn't as fancy but sturdy enough. One of my problems with this method was that I don't have and auto-darkening RVM, so I needed to access the little toggle on the bottom of the mirror, resulting to me having to mount the RD even lower... this actually looked pretty terrible lol..as I'm sure you can imagine.

Oh cool, I would be honoured if you gave this a go yourself! I like that it is easily removable, and you could easily switch the RD mount bits around while keeping the main bracket if you can get a hold of them on their own. You could even make a double ended bracket for testing purposes, so you could have a detector nicely mounted on each side of the mirror which you could switch between :)

Thank you for your kind words! :)


Thats probably the only mounting option I'd consider when using a mirror mount! Great idea!
Lol, well it's definitely not what the manufacturers intended, but it works for me at least. I was actually surprised at how well the mount fitted in this orientation, it's almost invisible for the drivers seat (and still really solid too) the detector kinda just floats there lol.


Nice job. What did you use to color the bracket black? That is a nice finishing detail.
I just used some satin black spray paint I had sitting on the shelf. I made sure to sand and clean the bracket with alcohol before painting, and it went on ok, and seems to adhere well enough. It looks a bit tidier today after a gave it a few tweaks and another really light squirt of satin black - I noticed that the heads of the hex screws which came with that bracket had a pretty motley finish, and a the paint coverage in the ends of the bracket wasn't perfect. But its back together now and looking a bit nicer :)

Thanks for your kind words too!

Very Creative
Nice Work.
View attachment 112297
Would the R3 stick out too far in a smaller car?
& Have you verified the sun screen / mesh isn’t interfering with reception? Had problem in my KIA, looks like same mesh.
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Posted from my iPhone using the RDF Mobile App!
Cheers! :)

Do you mean too far backwards from the windscreen? I have also considered this, you could shorten the two threaded sections coming out of the ball joints at each end of the middle section of the bracket. This could bring the RD forward by about 15 mm at a guess. Bearing in mind that my car isn't actually that big - it's a Toyota Wish, which is basically a JDM Toyota Corolla with a slightly higher roof line. I've decided that the position of the RD is actually pretty close to perfect in my situation though, as its current position gives me just the right amount of room to access the buttons, but not much more. It could maybe go forward about 3 mm, but I'd need a vice to be able to cut the threaded rods, and I'd be scared that I might not actually like the result and have no chance of reverting, so I think I'll leave it as is (at least for now lol).

I don't think the dots are a problem, I think they're ceramic, and the don't actually obscure the front of the detector - the screen directly (horizontally) in front of it clear of fritz dots luckily. It seems to detect K band fine at least after driving around today, but no Ka detects yet, I'll keep an eye on it :)
 
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Next project I decide to tackle, I'm going to ask for KiwiClaire's opinion! She might have a good idea that I'm not seeing! :)
 

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Next project I decide to tackle, I'm going to ask for KiwiClaire's opinion! She might have a good idea that I'm not seeing! :)
Lol! Well I'd be honoured to help if you would like any crazy suggestions from me. I'm definitely not the RD expert, but I'd do my best to pitch any weird and wonderful which I may cook up lol :)
 

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Definitely a creative professional install - high and tight - the best I believe
 

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Just a wee update after a little tweaking an tidying. The detector is level despite the appearance of a slight skew in the first picture. The first pic is my view of the RD from the drivers seat, the second is relatively close up side view (the mirror isn't actually touching the mount in this pic, it's just the perspective - the mirror is fully adjustable), and the third is close up from below where my bracket attaches to the original mirror mount. You don't really see much of this from any seated position in the car though, as its relatively hidden by the curve of the headlining. The detector could be moved forward if you trimmed the threaded rods of the mount, you could probably get about 12-15 mm of horizontal movement forward (1/2" to 5/6" in the old money)if you trimmed both. I'm happy with it as it is though :)
 

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Thank you for showing this to us. Killer adaptation of generic mount, and functional solid design. This idea will adapt to almost any RD design in my inventory for a semi permanent mount.
 

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