Technique in Banned State From Rear Hit

IPA

Gimme Shelter
Premium Member
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Feb 3, 2019
Messages
107
Reaction score
90
Location
Atl
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've been fortunate not to have to venture too far into a banned state, but when I do, what's the technique on rear shots? Do I grab e-brake or just show my brake lights and make it obvious?
 

CobawLT2010

Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
6,895
Reaction score
3,074
Location
I am where I am...
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Throw brake light...
 

steve

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Nov 25, 2012
Messages
502
Reaction score
537
Location
Brooklyn, NY
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I think cops are pretty used to seeing tail lights whenever a car passes. Shouldn’t stand out more than anyone else... assuming you kill your hammer quick.
 

IPA

Gimme Shelter
Premium Member
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Feb 3, 2019
Messages
107
Reaction score
90
Location
Atl
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That's true for visible threats, but what about those on the other side of overpasses at night? No one else would be slowing down.
 

CobawLT2010

Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Oct 26, 2011
Messages
6,895
Reaction score
3,074
Location
I am where I am...
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That's true for visible threats, but what about those on the other side of overpasses at night? No one else would be slowing down.
Throw brake light...
 

IPA

Gimme Shelter
Premium Member
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Feb 3, 2019
Messages
107
Reaction score
90
Location
Atl
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Contrary to popular belief, they can't pull you over for brake lights. But you'll look as suspicious AF. LOL
No, but couldn't they pull me over under suspicion of using laser jammers?
 

HackerPLEMC

West-by-God
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jun 29, 2014
Messages
529
Reaction score
408
Location
West Viginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Well, that coupled with the "suspicion", they could. Imagine VSP like a wasp. Super aggressive. Better to be safe then sorry though. I would use a passive Cm as well like WAZE.
 

asleeper

Premium Member
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
296
Reaction score
284
Location
Previously Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
No, but couldn't they pull me over under suspicion of using laser jammers?
In VA, yes. Hitting the brakes is suspicious for a rear shot especially if the LEO is well hidden or it's at night. It's debatable if that alone is probable cause for traffic stop but if decides to follow he's going to see the heads and stop you. Granted locals are less likely to harass you but VSP is another story as there officers that are up to date on how countermeasures work.

I'm going to go against the trend on this one and go with the hand brake. This was my preferred technique on all laser hits unless I was doing warp speed and needed to slow down quickly. Never once had an issue in VA including multiple encounters with VSP.
 

STS134

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2014
Messages
8,644
Reaction score
7,583
Location
Saratoga, CA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
In VA, yes. Hitting the brakes is suspicious for a rear shot especially if the LEO is well hidden or it's at night. It's debatable if that alone is probable cause for traffic stop but if decides to follow he's going to see the heads and stop you. Granted locals are less likely to harass you but VSP is another story as there officers that are up to date on how countermeasures work.

I'm going to go against the trend on this one and go with the hand brake. This was my preferred technique on all laser hits unless I was doing warp speed and needed to slow down quickly. Never once had an issue in VA including multiple encounters with VSP.
But many new cars have electronic hand brakes, and I'd never pull that thing while driving down the freeway (I'm not sure it would even engage, but I'm not going to try).
 

asleeper

Premium Member
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
296
Reaction score
284
Location
Previously Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
But many new cars have electronic hand brakes, and I'd never pull that thing while driving down the freeway (I'm not sure it would even engage, but I'm not going to try).
That is an issue and using the e brake may be a moot point on many newer cars. You could always test it in a parking lot or empty road to see how/if it works. On my cars, I was fortunate to have a good old fashioned cable actuated hand brake. I didn't have to worry about any of that electronic stuff. :)
 

STS134

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2014
Messages
8,644
Reaction score
7,583
Location
Saratoga, CA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That is an issue and using the e brake may be a moot point on many newer cars. You could always test it in a parking lot or empty road to see how/if it works. On my cars, I was fortunate to have a good old fashioned cable actuated hand brake. I didn't have to worry about any of that electronic stuff. :)
I'm not sure in what scenario I'd actually use it (if it even works) except maybe trying to pull off a handbrake/bootlegger's turn. And doing that in an SUV is asking for the Darwin Award.

Bottom line, if I'm hit with LIDAR, I'm just going to use the regular brakes. It makes me less likely to die from a car slamming into me from behind as well. If the cop asks why I hit the brakes, it's because I saw him in my rearview mirror.
 

Eloi

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jan 13, 2013
Messages
4,481
Reaction score
4,180
Rating - 0%
0   0   0

steve

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Nov 25, 2012
Messages
502
Reaction score
537
Location
Brooklyn, NY
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
In VA, yes. Hitting the brakes is suspicious for a rear shot especially if the LEO is well hidden or it's at night. It's debatable if that alone is probable cause for traffic stop but if decides to follow he's going to see the heads and stop you. Granted locals are less likely to harass you but VSP is another story as there officers that are up to date on how countermeasures work.

I'm going to go against the trend on this one and go with the hand brake. This was my preferred technique on all laser hits unless I was doing warp speed and needed to slow down quickly. Never once had an issue in VA including multiple encounters with VSP.
This is hilarious. You’ve gotta be kidding me. I’d love to see this happen on video. No chance in hell anyone does this and kills the jammers without raising suspicion.

Brake and deal with an equipment ticket if it comes down to it.
 

asleeper

Premium Member
Premium Member
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
296
Reaction score
284
Location
Previously Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
This is hilarious. You’ve gotta be kidding me. I’d love to see this happen on video. No chance in hell anyone does this and kills the jammers without raising suspicion.

Brake and deal with an equipment ticket if it comes down to it.
It may be kind of funny and over the top but those who have lived in VA know exactly what I am talking about. There are a number of VSP, (mainly in Northern VA) that go out of their way to catch people using countermeasures. One of them takes it to another level and knows way too much about how our "toys" work. This particular LEO has busted several people here (and for those who go back awhile, RD.net) using jammers/RD's. Likewise, he has made it a point to educate his colleagues on how to detect them as well.

Yes, it's just an equipment violation with ~$100 fine but if you live/drive in VA the best defense is to not get caught in the first place. I lived in the area where the infamous LEO patrolled and taking a few precautions was how I managed to stay "under the radar".
 

Eloi

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Jan 13, 2013
Messages
4,481
Reaction score
4,180
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It may be kind of funny and over the top but those who have lived in VA know exactly what I am talking about. There are a number of VSP, (mainly in Northern VA) that go out of their way to catch people using countermeasures. One of them takes it to another level and knows way too much about how our "toys" work. This particular LEO has busted several people here (and for those who go back awhile, RD.net) using jammers/RD's. Likewise, he has made it a point to educate his colleagues on how to detect them as well.

Yes, it's just an equipment violation with ~$100 fine but if you live/drive in VA the best defense is to not get caught in the first place. I lived in the area where the infamous LEO patrolled and taking a few precautions was how I managed to stay "under the radar".
Hundred is a steal ...here is seizure+700cnd
 

steve

Premium Member
Premium Member
Advanced User
Intermediate User
Beginner User
General User
Newly Registered
Joined
Nov 25, 2012
Messages
502
Reaction score
537
Location
Brooklyn, NY
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It may be kind of funny and over the top but those who have lived in VA know exactly what I am talking about. There are a number of VSP, (mainly in Northern VA) that go out of their way to catch people using countermeasures. One of them takes it to another level and knows way too much about how our "toys" work. This particular LEO has busted several people here (and for those who go back awhile, RD.net) using jammers/RD's. Likewise, he has made it a point to educate his colleagues on how to detect them as well.

Yes, it's just an equipment violation with ~$100 fine but if you live/drive in VA the best defense is to not get caught in the first place. I lived in the area where the infamous LEO patrolled and taking a few precautions was how I managed to stay "under the radar".
Lived 24 years in NOVA (Fairfax). Drove 8 of those years :) got pulled over for a radar detector in college. God knows what piece of **** that was.

Parents live in Loudon now. Never had an issue with my rears even with many leo behind me in the traffic hell and stoplights.

Got tagged from rear in DC. No issue. I tend to think people overreact to this kind of thing and overly paranoid. Just be smart.
 

Donation drives

RDF Server & License Fees (Mar 2019) (ACTIVE)

This donation drive covers the server and licensing fees for RDF for the month of March 2019...
Goal
$334.00
Earned
$450.00
This donation drive ends in

Latest threads

Social Group Activity

Forum statistics

Threads
79,117
Messages
1,178,812
Members
18,146
Latest member
Zlazarus
Top