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To get clocked?

I was reading another thread, don't remember which one, but they were testing a system. And it said whoever was operated the gun was a "good shooter". And while the system was effective a majority of the time, he was able to "poke through" some.

I was under the impression that a jamming system would prevent this.
 

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To get clocked?

I was reading another thread, don't remember which one, but they were testing a system. And it said whoever was operated the gun was a "good shooter". And while the system was effective a majority of the time, he was able to "poke through" some.

I was under the impression that a jamming system would prevent this.
Depends on which system you use... but a poor install or lack of good jammer placement options can lead to punch-throughs and allow the gun to get your speed. A well-placed ALP install can provide jam to gun performance.
 

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What you're describing is Punch Thru (PT) and it's always a risk on any vehicle. More so for large vehicles, smaller cars not so much. As for techniques to elicit PTs you won't find much info on that until you've advanced up the order on the boards. However a good install of a quality system is measured by its ability to withstand PTs regardless of the techniques a shooter employs to acquire a speed. Also something you would rarely see in the field where center mass is the go to targeting location.
 

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Remember too if something is blocking the jammer heads that can cause PT as well. Such as a median, motorcycle, another vehicle... though the LEO will usually shoot straight line of sight vehicles this could be a problem.
 
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...to write a useful subject line instead of tired clickbait? Surprisingly, yes, it is! ;)
Sorry it is not up to your standards :-0
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Do you remember the exact context of the Punch Through discussion? It almost sounds like it might have been somebody or a group testing an install so "they were looking for holes" IE trying to specifically find Punch Through (PT).

The thing to remember is that there is absolutely no system on the market today that is 100%, none. No matter what they say, no matter what the marketing says, no matter what the testing shows. The reason nobody can say this is that there is that one set of circumstances where everything either come together just right (or just wrong depending on which side you are on) that allows that one in a million PT clocking. With a proper Lidar Jammer (ALP, TMG, etc), a proper install, and proper tested setup, the odds are highly on ones side that if things were ever to fall into the one in a million just right circumstances, you will most likely come out on the good side.

These are what Forum Members call JTG (Jam To Gun) or JFG (Jam From Gun) proper setups (again it is impossible to test every single possible scenario a driver might run into to create a "certified" foolproof system), yet a good install strives for that outcome and in practice a proper install provides the most protection. Also in practice, remember the goal is to immediately slow down, then immediately JTK (Jam To Kill), further limiting that one in a million clocking from being bad new.

I had PT in testing my setup from behind. I am working on getting better JFG results yet in the meantime I have been shoot from the rear three times (PL4 once, twice TSS) in the last month and haven't been pulled over most likely meaning they were jammed.
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It's all depends on install quality, placement and a good quality system. If you test your setup once done that will help you know if the setup is JTG.
 

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Possible. My set ups always test well. In the last 19 years of playing the game, I have had 1 IPT in the wild that resulted in a written warning. Several years ago against my latest setup but before my TX head install.
 

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Just thought I'd add that jammers are your last line of defense after Waze or an eye save fail you. No reason to tempt fate.
 

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I think you might be referring to a comment I made during my first experience testing jammers. These tests are referring to one vehicle. Three of us took turns as the shooter and for the sake of the discussion, two of us got repeatable JTG. I'm thinking this would be more like real world scenario. The third shooter had way more experience and could get repeatable PT's shooting his own vehicle. Being new to testing, I thought this was interesting so I shared the experience
 

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Remember too if something is blocking the jammer heads that can cause PT as well. Such as a median, motorcycle, another vehicle... though the LEO will usually shoot straight line of sight vehicles this could be a problem.
Or a dead bug on jammer lenses :)
 

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Or a dead bug on jammer lenses :)
That's one thing hate about summer, so many bugs. Cleaning the jammer heads regularly is one thing many people forget. Dirt, dust, bugs can affect a jammer's ability to receive/transmit.
 

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That's one thing hate about summer, so many bugs. Cleaning the jammer heads regularly is one thing many people forget. Dirt, dust, bugs can affect a jammer's ability to receive/transmit.
Wow I never thought of that. Thanks for posting!
 

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^^^ this is why I clean my lenses regularly and double check them during extended trips. I recheck them every time I stop for fuel or at a rest area.

Once the fuel pump is running it is off to the front of the vehicle to clean my ALP Heads while the vehicle fuels up. Then to the rear to clean those heads.
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Sometimes I hate myself because whenever I see a post like this I never answer the question because I assume everyone is a cop or getting information for cops or legislation. Silly ol me lol
 

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Sometimes I hate myself because whenever I see a post like this I never answer the question because I assume everyone is a cop or getting information for cops or legislation. Silly ol me lol
i apologize to op for hijacking but i just had a question to all the people here w jammers because im looking into getting one. are your jammer systems undefeated? have any of you still got tickets from a laser trap, assuming the system was fully operational and installed correctly. thanks for replies and to op for putting up w the question
 

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