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Yesterday a bought a used MAX ll, and it looks like new. Seems to work fine, with some false K. The primary use will be on my Motorcycle ridden in mostly suburban/rural areas. It is at version 1.7, with a serial# 67xxxxxx. Should I update it to 1.9, or leave it alone? I have been reading up about the latest, and probably last update, and there was mixed reactions. Good Ka range is a higher priority than filtering. Also I cannot register, unless I switch ownership with Escort. Thanks for any input.
 

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Yesterday a bought a used MAX ll, and it looks like new. Seems to work fine, with some false K. The primary use will be on my Motorcycle ridden in mostly suburban/rural areas. It is at version 1.7, with a serial# 67xxxxxx. Should I update it to 1.9, or leave it alone? I have been reading up about the latest, and probably last update, and there was mixed reactions. Good Ka range is a higher priority than filtering. Also I cannot register, unless I switch ownership with Escort. Thanks for any input.
The filtering changes have been for K band, not Ka. In-Vehicle Technology (IVT) includes things such as Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM), Collision Avoidance Systems (CAS), and Lane Change Warning Systems (LCWS). Collectively, these non-threat radar systems are referred to as IVT with the radar detector manufacturers implementing IVT filtering.

Based on your statement that you're primarily concerned about Ka band, you should not have any issues. IVT Filtering does not affect Ka band. It only affects K band.

P.S. not to pick a bone -- but more for education and reference... The Passport Max that you have is a "Passport Max 2", based upon the serial number you've shared. The Max 2's start with S/N 67xxxxxxWWYY and use the QLKBT1 first generation bluetooth chip, where as the "Passport Max II" starts with S/N 97xxxxxxWWYY and uses the QLKBT2 BlueTooth Low Energy (BLE) chip. The two chips behave differently when it comes to pairing with your phone and Escort Live, depending on the flavor of OS you use - Apple iOS or Android.

Regarding the transfer of ownership, if you have contact with the person who sold it to you, ask them to call up Escort customer service and to unregister the product their Escort Live account. Once they do so, you can then link the device to your Escort Live account in the app.

Additionally, there is another place you'll want them to unregister it from. Escort's product registration / warranty database -- if it's registered there. This just makes things easier for you if you do have to call them up and get the unit serviced. It's a pain if the device shows the name and details for the former owner as opposed to you. You'll benefit from less chance of confusion down the road when working with them if you ever have to.
 

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Good information. I was confused about the whole 67xxx, 97xxx thing. This RD says MAX ll , and the box says Escort MAX ll, not Passport MAX 2. I though that the MAX ll was the newer model release. I realize the IVT filtering is at K band, but a couple posts mentioned,( Escort forum), "they felt" some loss of Ka performance. That is why I mentioned it. Can I still update even without being registered? And would you recommend updating to ver 1.9? I will also see if the original owner can un-register it.
 

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Yes, you can still run the firmware update without any need for registration changes. The detector tools software that updates firmware doesn’t require any login, so it should not be a problem.

Regarding a loss of Ka band performance, I’m skeptical of it, but don’t have data either way for or against that. I did some quick reading over on Escort’s official forums. My impressions are that those who updated and reported issues with Ka were users who only did the quick update and not the “Update all software” tab. The “update all software” is an option under the “Advanced” tab in Detector Tools Pro. Also, be sure to only have the device plugged in with USB when you update. Don’t have it powered up via power cord too. After updating all software, remove the USB, power the detector up in your car. Let it boot up and run a few seconds to finish applying the update. Now go into the settings and do a factory reset of all user settings. The detector will reboot. This should ensure your config file gets rebuilt on the detector. Set up your settings as needed, as well as optionally pair it with BlueTooth to your mobile phone and the Escort Live (or Escargot Drive for Android). This should be a good path to follow, IMO.

If you want maximum Ka sensitivity, you can disable Radar Detector Rejection (RDR) on the detector settings. This will result in more instantaneous Ka band alerts, but at the cost of many more false positives on Ka band. Usually the false positives come from “leaky” cheap low quality radar detectors that other drivers on the road have, and once in a blue moon from other antennas such as Point-to-Point data transmission antennas used by backhaul data carriers, or satellite tv dishes and antennas. Try out RDR off if you like; if it’s not bearable than just turn it back on. IMO in any city you’ll most likely want it turned on.
 

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Yes, you can still run the firmware update without any need for registration changes. The detector tools software that updates firmware doesn’t require any login, so it should not be a problem.

Regarding a loss of Ka band performance, I’m skeptical of it, but don’t have data either way for or against that. I did some quick reading over on Escort’s official forums. My impressions are that those who updated and reported issues with Ka were users who only did the quick update and not the “Update all software” tab. The “update all software” is an option under the “Advanced” tab in Detector Tools Pro. Also, be sure to only have the device plugged in with USB when you update. Don’t have it powered up via power cord too. After updating all software, remove the USB, power the detector up in your car. Let it boot up and run a few seconds to finish applying the update. Now go into the settings and do a factory reset of all user settings. The detector will reboot. This should ensure your config file gets rebuilt on the detector. Set up your settings as needed, as well as optionally pair it with BlueTooth to your mobile phone and the Escort Live (or Escargot Drive for Android). This should be a good path to follow, IMO.

If you want maximum Ka sensitivity, you can disable Radar Detector Rejection (RDR) on the detector settings. This will result in more instantaneous Ka band alerts, but at the cost of many more false positives on Ka band. Usually the false positives come from “leaky” cheap low quality radar detectors that other drivers on the road have, and once in a blue moon from other antennas such as Point-to-Point data transmission antennas used by backhaul data carriers, or satellite tv dishes and antennas. Try out RDR off if you like; if it’s not bearable than just turn it back on. IMO in any city you’ll most likely want it turned on.
Awesome info. Thanks, I always learn so much from you.
 

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Thanks a lot. Did a full update to ver.1.9, and did not brick it :). I even got my RD to connect to Escort live, which I couldn't before. I got around some traffic, and it stayed quite, set on Highway, with TSR off. This is a great Forum.
 

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Good information. I was confused about the whole 67xxx, 97xxx thing. This RD says MAX ll , and the box says Escort MAX ll, not Passport MAX 2. I though that the MAX ll was the newer model release. I realize the IVT filtering is at K band, but a couple posts mentioned,( Escort forum), "they felt" some loss of Ka performance. That is why I mentioned it. Can I still update even without being registered? And would you recommend updating to ver 1.9? I will also see if the original owner can un-register it.
Recommend updating exactly per @sdrawkcaB. My team continual use, Ka seems not affected. BSM filtering is excellent, 95% as good as the best. Real k band works very well too. Except for the mount causing the RD flopping around a bit, should work well on a bike. If not, splurge and go with Radenso Pro M.
 
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Regarding the transfer of ownership, if you have contact with the person who sold it to you, ask them to call up Escort customer service and to unregister the product their Escort Live account. Once they do so, you can then link the device to your Escort Live account in the app.
I tried the original owner, and no-go.
But.....
I was able to register my Escort MAX ll today. I called Escort, and they cleared the previous registration, and gave me a 1 year subscription, and 90 days of defender. It cost me nothing $00.00. :). I will play around with Escort live some more, but I tend to favor Waze, so far.
 

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