Tinted Windows (I think) Ticket

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This past monday I was pulled over for speeding (which I agree I was doing, not disputing that
I was written up for it and sent on my marry way.

Today I received a ticket in the mail for having tinted windows. Let me clarify and say that yes, my windows were tinted. It was issued at the same time and date as the speeding ticket by the same officer but he NEVER mentioned tint
nor did he check for it at all. My front windows were rolled all the way down when he pulled me over and he never tested nor said anything about it. I don't know if he is supposed to test my tint or not so IDK if the fact he didn't changes anything.

Ticket is for:
VC26709(a)(1) OBSTRUCTED VIEW/FRONT WINDOW TINT
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26708.
(a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.


My thought is he wrote me up for this but didnt say anything because he thought I would not show up to court since it is in the middle of nowhere.

I guess my question is mostly does he need to confirm via some tool or test that my windows were tinted or can he just write a ticket by assuming they are?
 

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With a cursory examination of laws, it seems you are allowed tint as dark as you want on your rear windows as long as you have 2 side view mirrors. If both your front windows were down and he couldn't see if they were tinted and never asked, I'm not sure how he could have legally written you a ticket for it. We all know the law never stopped a cop however.
 

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If both your front windows were down and he couldn't see if they were tinted and never asked
No mention, no ticket, nothing. I just got a shittily photocopied ticket in the mail today which had all the same details as my speeding ticket but was checked that it's for the owner of the vehicle, not the driver and had the tint infraction instead of the speeding infraction.

He basically wrote a separate ticket and instead of giving it to me or telling me about it, he just sent it to me in the mail
 

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Just a different thought... was anything mounted on your windshield? I've heard some cops that hate RD users can pull that citation on you just for having something attached to your windshield such as a suction cup mounted RD.
 

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Just a different thought... was anything mounted on your windshield? I've heard some cops that hate RD users can pull that citation on you just for having something attached to your windshield such as a suction cup mounted RD.
Nothing on windshield. No detectors, no cameras. Just the sensors behind the mirror that come with the car
 

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Makes me want to tell you to take it to court and demand the evidence be presented to support the citation. If he doesn’t have any, then it should be tossed out. PS, don’t go to court in your same car. He may have his buddy stop you on the way out of the parking lot afterwords for an “unrelated” tint check, so don’t make it too easy for them.

If you do end up fighting it with a lawyer, you may as well fight the traffic ticket too.

Even getting stuck with a fix-it ticket can be bad for you, as the first one may be withdrawn if you remove the tint now. Getting stopped again in the future, they will see the previously withdrawn citation, and issue you a non-correctable citation the second time around. In other words, fight it this time to get it thrown out so that you don’t use up your “free pass” fix-it right now.
 

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I don't see how the ticket for tint would hold up in court if he didn't test it. How can he testify that your tint was illegal without having tested it? Also in your favor is the fact he never mentioned anything about tint when he stopped you. I'd take it to court as you have a good chance of getting it dismissed.
 
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I had a tint ticket/fix it when I was younger (17) and they checked it on the spot. It was 5% so I knew the results. I had to remove it and show up and prove it was fixed. That was many moons ago though.
 

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I had a tint ticket/fix it when I was younger (17) and they checked it on the spot. It was 5% so I knew the results. I had to remove it and show up and prove it was fixed. That was many moons ago though.
Same here, I had a few tickets for tint over the years. The police have a device that slides over the window and measures the tint. I knew mine was illegal (20% all the way around) so I just pre paid the tickets.
 

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I've looked at it as a waiting game since installing my tint. It's 20% and is illegal. If or when that day comes and it has to be removed, I'll have new legal tint installed. can't go without my tinted windows it's a must for me. I was ticketed for a tint violation back in the 90s here in SC. I had installed a 6" strip on the windshield of my wife's car per request. It was 1" lower than the AS-1 mark that is on all factory windshields. Made my court date to show it had been removed. The Judge reduced the fine. Made me happy enough. :)
 

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Where was this? Would need to know to be sure of what you can do. There is usually a % max.

Should be easy to fight since he did no tint measurements and it was done after the fact, but depends on the state.
 

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A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
Do you have tint on the quarter windows? Maybe that is where he came from???
 

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Being that a tint meter is nothing more than a small portable spectrophotometer I would suspect the court would be interested in calibration records (much like radar and lidar guns). Additionally, I would think there would have to be logs when using these to issue citations. Being that there was no mention of tint and no measurement happening at the time of road side revenue collection, I would file a FOIA request for what meter that officer may, or may not, have been issued for that day. If he had a meter that day, I would want all logs and and calibration data for the day. Just you reaching into their records should be enough for the PA to settle with you outside of court. If you were able to prove that the officer falsified a tint citation, I would think that would be grounds for dismissal of your speeding ticket.
 

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Short of some inconveniences, it might be cheaper to scrape it out, get the ticket fixed and reinstall it.... especially if it's a place you don't go to too often and/or not to memorable to the PoPo.... i.e. didn't give "the man" S**t.
 

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I've looked at it as a waiting game since installing my tint. It's 20% and is illegal. If or when that day comes and it has to be removed, I'll have new legal tint installed. can't go without my tinted windows it's a must for me. I was ticketed for a tint violation back in the 90s here in SC. I had installed a 6" strip on the windshield of my wife's car per request. It was 1" lower than the AS-1 mark that is on all factory windshields. Made my court date to show it had been removed. The Judge reduced the fine. Made me happy enough. :)
Not sure what the laws in SC are now, but I know in NC the front strip is allowed to the AS1 line or 6in, whichever is longer

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i had a window tint ticket and just paid it. I was actually pulled over only for the tint. Puzzled the crap out of me because i wasnt speeding and had just bought the car used with tint already on. (it was barely over the legal amount) rode around with tint for several years later and it was never an issue.
 

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How about stripping out the tint in the car now and replacing it with legal tint. Contest the ticket and at your court appearance state the that the officer didn't actually test your tint, and supply proof, as in some certified test result - I don't know if you have vehicle inspection services where you are like we in NZ? (we're required to have a yearly vehicle safety inspection). It would be worth it just enjoy the consternation of the prosecution lol...
 

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If he had a meter that day, I would want all logs and and calibration data for the day. Just you reaching into their records should be enough for the PA to settle with you outside of court. If you were able to prove that the officer falsified a tint citation, I would think that would be grounds for dismissal of your speeding ticket.
I would go far beyond just trying to get the ticket dismissed. After doing that, I'd go after the officer. Best way to try to get the officer fired is probably to report this to a local news station. A funny thing tends to happen when stuff like this makes the news. A whole bunch of other people usually go "He did that to you too?"
 
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I would go far beyond just trying to get the ticket dismissed. After doing that, I'd go after the officer. Best way to try to get the officer fired is probably to report this to a local news station. A funny thing tends to happen when stuff like this makes the news. A whole bunch of other people usually go "He did that to you too?"
I agree but only if it's "not in his backyard." We have a tint hawk in my county and without fail he nails me every now and then.... usually due to speeding or something other than simple tint and I have always scraped (fixed it) then reapply only because I know others who try to best him get targeted for tint alone.
 

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I agree but only if it's "not in his backyard." We have a tint hawk in my county and without fail he nails me every now and then.... usually due to speeding or something other than simple tint and I have always scraped (fixed it) then reapply only because I know others who try to best him get targeted for tint alone.
Yeah but note that there's nothing wrong (legally) with ticketing you for something that's technically illegal, even if the LEO is being a real dick. No front license plate/tinted front windows too dark fall into this category. But giving someone a ticket without even testing the tint on the windows is another issue entirely. And in this case, it was even worse. The LEO never even saw the front windows.
 

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