Waze expands its Bluetooth beacons to New York City to end GPS signal blackouts (1 Viewer)

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We've had this in Boston for a while. It's nice to continue to have the info feed when underground and stuck in a tunnel...
 

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Awesome. I don't take the tunnels here but I'll keep an eye out thanks
 

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I thought I had heard most of the stupidest ideas on Earth, but I guess not!

As if I need any VVaze data if I am going through or stuck in a tunnel! What am I going to do while driving through a tunnel, change my mind on which way I want to get someplace and need to turn right or left? NO, I'm in a tunnel with only one possible route! Or I'm stuck in a tunnel because traffic has stopped, so I need VVaze to tell me it has a new route? When again I can't take a new route because again, I am stuck in a tunnel with only one way to travel! So they spend all that time and money for that one in a million time when somebody would be better off to exit immediately upon getting out of the tunnel instead of staying on their original route or should now not exit due to some other issue and should keep going straight. It is NYC, something else is going to be screwed up 5 minutes later anyways.

From all my driving in NYC, VVaze can actually be more trouble then it is worth due to all the route update changes due to accidents or heavy traffic when if it had left me on the original route I would have been there 30 minutes sooner! I was 20 minutes from my brother-in-law's home (unbeknownst to me my nephew was a few cars behind me and headed home) when VVaze informed me to take a different quicker route. Twenty-five minutes later Hank calls me asking if we had to make a stop as Ben was home and had seen us in front of him when we turned off. Thirty minutes later, we arrived at Hank's home, thanks for the extra aggravation VVaze.
 

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I thought I had heard most of the stupidest ideas on Earth, but I guess not!

As if I need any VVaze data if I am going through or stuck in a tunnel! What am I going to do while driving through a tunnel, change my mind on which way I want to get someplace and need to turn right or left? NO, I'm in a tunnel with only one possible route! Or I'm stuck in a tunnel because traffic has stopped, so I need VVaze to tell me it has a new route? When again I can't take a new route because again, I am stuck in a tunnel with only one way to travel! So they spend all that time and money for that one in a million time when somebody would be better off to exit immediately upon getting out of the tunnel instead of staying on their original route or should now not exit due to some other issue and should keep going straight. It is NYC, something else is going to be screwed up 5 minutes later anyways.

From all my driving in NYC, VVaze can actually be more trouble then it is worth due to all the route update changes due to accidents or heavy traffic when if it had left me on the original route I would have been there 30 minutes sooner! I was 20 minutes from my brother-in-law's home (unbeknownst to me my nephew was a few cars behind me and headed home) when VVaze informed me to take a different quicker route. Twenty-five minutes later Hank calls me asking if we had to make a stop as Ben was home and had seen us in front of him when we turned off. Thirty minutes later, we arrived at Hank's home, thanks for the extra aggravation VVaze.
In Boston they replaced the elevated highway that ran through the city with "the big dig", an underground tunneled highway with multiple exits to ground level. I believe NYC/NJ have similar tunnels with multiple exits. It's helpful having accurate positioning when driving through so you know when your exit is coming up, if there's a speed trap/hazard, or if you should divert to avoid traffic.
 

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I don't quite understand this. I mean, sure, it's nice to have GPS to know how far you are into the tunnel, but the tunnels here only go one way: in and out. It's not like you reach a fork and decide to make a left or right and end up in a totally different part of town. You will know exactly where you will be once you get out of the tunnel.
 

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I don't quite understand this. I mean, sure, it's nice to have GPS to know how far you are into the tunnel, but the tunnels here only go one way: in and out. It's not like you reach a fork and decide to make a left or right and end up in a totally different part of town. You will know exactly where you will be once you get out of the tunnel.
But do you think their system will help keep the TX equipped ALP's running in the tunnel? We both know the MTA likes to tag cars exiting the tunnels especially the midtown tunnel into Queens ;)
 

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Well at a minimum then it will help prevent Waze from freaking out.
When mine loses the GPS signal the map starts twisting back and forth like it's having a seizure. :spazface:
 

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But do you think their system will help keep the TX equipped ALP's running in the tunnel? We both know the MTA likes to tag cars exiting the tunnels especially the midtown tunnel into Queens ;)
I don't take the midtown tunnel so I don't know. Never got shot taking the battery tunnel before and with the amount of traffic whenever I'm taking the tunnel, I'd be happy if I could go the PSL...
 

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In Boston they replaced the elevated highway that ran through the city with "the big dig", an underground tunneled highway with multiple exits to ground level. I believe NYC/NJ have similar tunnels with multiple exits. It's helpful having accurate positioning when driving through so you know when your exit is coming up, if there's a speed trap/hazard, or if you should divert to avoid traffic.

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Not a single NY Tunnel I have been in has multiple exits inside them, go in one side, come out the other side. Do you need to be in the correct lane when you exit the Lincoln Tubes, you do, but there is signage, plus before entering the Tubes, VVaze tells you what your next exit/turn is going to be. The only tunnels I have ever been over the PSL in are the ones in Virginia, WV, and PA. I have never been able to even get up to the PSL in any NY/NJ tunnel so not worried about the police. This is basically a money wasting answer looking for a problem that doesn't exist as far as I am concerned.

If greed, corruption, politicians, and unions (don't get me wrong I belonged to the IBEW & CWA while employed) didn't have a strangle hold on NYC, the city would have built an Airport twice the size of JFK/LGA combined 60 miles out in the country, installed non-stop high speed rail back into the City, and turned JFK and LGA into Million Dollar Plus High-rise Condos! Smart enough to build their sports stadiums in another State, but not smart enough to build a new modern Airport instead of trying to redo LGA every other year trying to make it work!
 

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Not a single NY Tunnel I have been in has multiple exits inside them, go in one side, come out the other side. Do you need to be in the correct lane when you exit the Lincoln Tubes, you do, but there is signage, plus before entering the Tubes, VVaze tells you what your next exit/turn is going to be. The only tunnels I have ever been over the PSL in are the ones in Virginia, WV, and PA. I have never been able to even get up to the PSL in any NY/NJ tunnel so not worried about the police. This is basically a money wasting answer looking for a problem that doesn't exist as far as I am concerned.

If greed, corruption, politicians, and unions (don't get me wrong I belonged to the IBEW & CWA while employed) didn't have a strangle hold on NYC, the city would have built an Airport twice the size of JFK/LGA combined 60 miles out in the country, installed non-stop high speed rail back into the City, and turned JFK and LGA into Million Dollar Plus High-rise Condos! Smart enough to build their sports stadiums in another State, but not smart enough to build a new modern Airport instead of trying to redo LGA every other year trying to make it work!
Exactly, and for the MTA who is strapped for cash, I'm shocked the shelled out money for this.
 

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Exactly, and for the MTA who is strapped for cash, I'm shocked the shelled out money for this.

Well where I see it beneficial is coming out of the tunnel. It takes too long for it to catch up to where I am at and coming out of Lincoln tunnel you only have seconds to pick right or left. Also, like a previous poster said, it jumps all over place in the tunnel.




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Couldn’t this be calculated based on speed going in and out of the tunnels?
 

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Couldn’t this be calculated based on speed going in and out of the tunnels?
How does Waze know your speed if there is no got signal?
 

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In Boston they replaced the elevated highway that ran through the city with "the big dig", an underground tunneled highway with multiple exits to ground level. I believe NYC/NJ have similar tunnels with multiple exits. It's helpful having accurate positioning when driving through so you know when your exit is coming up, if there's a speed trap/hazard, or if you should divert to avoid traffic.
I had vvaze lag in boston before and with multiple exits and exit options i appreciate the updates!


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