Anyone near ATL GA for a Quick Test?

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I did testing with @drtoddw on my front end and it worked perfectly I had 2 sensors in the back but recently changed to 3 cause he got instant punch through on the tail lights. They installed the 6th head the TX one and they said they had to do a factory reset but when I got back into the car all my profiles were still saved. Is that normal? I just want to make sure that the back is working cause from other users that did the same install they got JTG on mostly everything. I know Monster Customs near me has a Dragon Eye but I didn't get my install done from them so I'm not sure if they would help me or not. I'm mostly just concerned on the part that with adding the TX head in the back and doing the factory reset that my profiles were still saved so I'm concerned if everything is working correctly.
Also is there any plans on another meet up for a big testing group cause that would be fun. I missed the Southern Florida one as I was a brand new member still searching through this amazing forum.
I can post links of my install if you would like to see.
 

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More specifically if you added a TX head, you will absolutely need a Dragon Eye to test as they are the only ones that need the TX head.

So the big question on the rear is, was the PT on the taillights with a Dragon or just a regular Lidar like PL3, PL4, TSS or Stalker? If yes, adding the TX head isn't going to make any improvement as your RX heads will need to be spaced closer to the outsides.
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More specifically if you added a TX head, you will absolutely need a Dragon Eye to test as they are the only ones that need the TX head.

So the big question on the rear is, was the PT on the taillights with a Dragon or just a regular Lidar like PL3, PL4, TSS or Stalker? If yes, adding the TX head isn't going to make any improvement as your RX heads will need to be spaced closer to the outsides.
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Yeah the rear was changed. He used a TSS to see if he could get a reading of 0 on the taillights and he did.
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Added a front one too if you wanted to see. We tested the front and thought the two Regular Sensors would be too high but it was JTG on everything. Had to change the rears and followed what the forums said exactly and now just want to make sure that it's working correctly.
 

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That looks good and it should probably test good too. My front is the same way now which we though would not work out but it did. I tried doing straight across like everybody else but I had issues. When I changed the layout to the two RX heads higher and the TX head centered a little lower, I am JTG on DETC, DESL, TSS in testing and DETC, TSS, PL4, and Stacker XLR in live highway police Lidar shot saves.
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Uhhh those RX heads in the rear are gonna be a problem. You’ve got them 48” apart according you your pics and that’s way too far. You old setup (approx 12” apart) was too close together to properly protect the rear but 48” is gonna be too far apart from what I’ve read.
 

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You live in Atlanta or Florida?
 

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Uhhh those RX heads in the rear are gonna be a problem. You’ve got them 48” apart according you your pics and that’s way too far. You old setup (approx 12” apart) was too close together to properly protect the rear but 48” is gonna be too far apart from what I’ve read.
The TX is in the middle. A couple other truck owners have done the same thing and say it's JTG
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You live in Atlanta or Florida?
I live in Georgia but travel to Destin Florida a lot
 

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Uhhh those RX heads in the rear are gonna be a problem. You’ve got them 48” apart according you your pics and that’s way too far. You old setup (approx 12” apart) was too close together to properly protect the rear but 48” is gonna be too far apart from what I’ve read.
LoganT is going to be fine with his rear set up.

The tail lights are in close to 48” radius of the RX heads. (24” from the centre point of the RX head. )

I was more concerned with the coverage of the front to his fog lights, but that’s why we test.

Dukes ran the rear set up when he had his truck. I followed his lead and set mine the same. Both of ours were/are JFG against the Dragon in that rear configuration. Testing will tell, but I’m pretty confident


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LoganT is going to be fine with his rear set up.

The tail lights are in close to 48” radius of the RX heads. (24” from the centre point of the RX head. )

I was more concerned with the coverage of the front to his fog lights, but that’s why we test.

Dukes ran the rear set up when he had his truck. I followed his lead and set mine the same. Both of ours were/are JFG against the Dragon in that rear configuration. Testing will tell, but I’m pretty confident


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You don't think 24" is too far from the TX? So yes the RX are 48" from each other but 24" from the TX.
The front did seem sketchy but the front was already tested and the rear was changed without testing on the new setup. I was mostly concerned when they said they had to run a factory reset when adding heads and added that 6th TX head that when I got back in the car it seemed that all my profiles were the exact same. I don't doubt that this will mostly be JTG on everything as I'm more just concerned if they are actually running in general. I need to get more familiar with Lidar guns but the front was tested JTG on the Dragons and TSS. He even tried to hit my tires and my fog lights and still JTG even with the RX being so high. Even tried to get the speed of the car that happened to be right next to me, and nothing. ALP is insane I'm so glad I got these.
 

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@Logan T The TX doesn't matter in that regard, what matters is that the TX is more than 8 inches (further is better) from the RX heads. Remember the RX do not fire when the ALP receives a Dragon Detect, on the TX head fires. When you are hit with TSS, only the RX heads fire, not the TX. So what is protecting you from the Dragon is only the special TX head so it needs to be far enough from the RX heads when it fires so they can still keep track in receive of what the DETC is doing and not be blinded by the TX head.
 

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The TX is in the middle. A couple other truck owners have done the same thing and say it's JTG
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I live in Georgia but travel to Destin Florida a lot
I will be in Atlanta the first week of February mostly in the Kennesaw area. I’ll be happy to help you with DET testing. It will have to be on Tuesday or Wednesday and I can probably dedicate about an hour if you know of a good place.
 

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If you just want to check the wiring, you can reach out to Jag42 at TMG or Tom @BRD and pick up a little Lidar tester.

Comes in handy and cheap. Good for trouble shooting the heads and wiring


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IMO the RX are to far apart. Yes at least 8 inch from TX head., but RX heads should be around 24 inch from each other. That would be around 12 inch front TX head.
 

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IMO the RX are to far apart. Yes at least 8 inch from TX head., but RX heads should be around 24 inch from each other. That would be around 12 inch front TX head.

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I follow you but he was having taillight PT so shouldn't he error a little farther to the outside on bother sides? I don't have any means to measure where his actually are but is it your thought that where they are now might cause PT high and low where they heads no longer overlap or cover? Measuring 24 inches in from the taillights should give them coverage but I don't know what that does for the high/low dead center against non-dragon guns. That TX is only for the Dragon currently and would not fire against a TSS, so are you thinking a low or high middle shoot from a TSS would now have PT?
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I follow you but he was having taillight PT so shouldn't he error a little farther to the outside on bother sides? I don't have any means to measure where his actually are but is it your thought that where they are now might cause PT high and low where they heads no longer overlap or cover? Measuring 24 inches in from the taillights should give them coverage but I don't know what that does for the high/low dead center against non-dragon guns. That TX is only for the Dragon currently and would not fire against a TSS, so are you thinking a low or high middle shoot from a TSS would now have PT?
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Well the only reason for that was because the first install was way too close together and not even close to my tail lights. They could be moved in a little bit closer but testing will help for sure
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The're actually 21" from the TX so 42" from RX to RX. My front end is 28" from RX to RX. Should I measure tail light to RX? What's the radius of just one RX?
Edit: The Middle to Topish area of my tailight is 21" from an RX sensor.
 
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The radius is approximately 24”. If your 23” from your tail light, you should be good.

Also you can figure in some scatter and maybe shake from the operator.

Testing will prove it. There’s not much difference between your truck and mine. @Dukes had the same measurement on his Chev as well.


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IMO the RX are to far apart. Yes at least 8 inch from TX head., but RX heads should be around 24 inch from each other. That would be around 12 inch front TX head.
If the radius is 24” from the center of the RX head in any direction, why do you think you need 24” of overlap of each head? It’s on a truck that’s pretty wide.


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LoganT is going to be fine with his rear set up.

The tail lights are in close to 48” radius of the RX heads. (24” from the centre point of the RX head. )

I was more concerned with the coverage of the front to his fog lights, but that’s why we test.

Dukes ran the rear set up when he had his truck. I followed his lead and set mine the same. Both of ours were/are JFG against the Dragon in that rear configuration. Testing will tell, but I’m pretty confident


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You guys know trucks better than I do so I’ll trust what you’re saying. 48” between sensors just seemed huge but maybe I’m just caught up on that from the magic 25.5” that gets mentioned all the time. I’ve got one RX (and one TX) covering the rear of my car fairly well so if I think about it that way then it makes sense why this would work.

I’m looking forward to seeing your testing results @Logan T
 

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You guys know trucks better than I do so I’ll trust what you’re saying. 48” between sensors just seemed huge but maybe I’m just caught up on that from the magic 25.5” that gets mentioned all the time. I’ve got one RX (and one TX) covering the rear of my car fairly well so if I think about it that way then it makes sense why this would work.

I’m looking forward to seeing your testing results @Logan T
Lol. You kind of answer the concern. You actually simply stated it better than I did.

25.5” from the TX head. The 25.5” of coverage goes both ways. Left and right, not just one side.

Stay at least 8” away so the TX doesn’t blind the RX. If you go too far away, you could leave one side of your car uncovered with one head.

Another way to look at it is the diameter of the Lidar hit on your vehicle at distances.

Rule of thumb only. 1000’ is about 36” on your car. 500’ is 18”. If it’s being held by hand, your chances of detection go up, and there is scatter. That 36” is just a reference.
You can try it with a laser pointer to get the idea. You can see that.




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