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OK, so I have been running my R1 for more than a few months now and I have had some really close calls, some serious ghost signals, and even 1 wow moment. I own an x50 Black, R1, V1, and Original Redline, and they all get used pretty regularly so I feel like I have a solid comparison and baseline of expectations. I have been running radar detectors for about 15 years and have owned or operated a serious variety of detectors and vehicles in most of the states on the East coast, stretching into the midwest. (Haven't owned a Radenso yet, oddly enough.. but let's stay on topic).

Overall, I am still thinking my original Redline has the longest consistent detection,the V1 is not quite as long range (a few seconds difference at speed) but the data that accompanies the alert (direction and counter) pretty much brings them to an even playing field. And at that both detectors are pretty consistent. Detection range & ramp up. That is the point I want to make- they are VERY CONSISTENT.

I want to be impressed by the R1 but so far I am a little underwhelmed by the performance most of the time, and it seems to perform so inconsistently. I use a mirror mount, below the tint line, good voltage, etc etc.The forum is all about these R3/R1 detectors, so it seems like I am doing something wrong to get these results...I really want to trust this thing but I just can't...

I guess I really have 3 questions:
Any useful (I want to stress USEFUL) suggestions to find a more consistent performance baseline from my R1 detector?
Am I the only person that has arrived at this conclusion?
Has anyone else moved away from an R1/R3 in search of performance? If so, what direction did you go?


Let's keep the flaming to a minimum, fanboys welcome if you have something valid to offer, but I don't mind competition or variety.
 

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Any useful (I want to stress USEFUL) suggestions to find a more consistent performance baseline from my R1 detector?
Only way to really get a baseline is to test with a good source side by side. It is possible you have a cold unit, or it could just be the types of encounters you're running into with the R1.
 

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@quazilla

It’s ok to rant and rave but if you want help or suggestions, we need a little more info.

What are your settings? Firmware version?

What’s your turf terrain? Flat, mountains, hilly?

What bands and frequencies do you encounter? Ka 33.8, Ka 34.7, or Ka 35.5?

I encounter 35.5 the most which is a hard signal to detect (even more off axis around curves), and I often get reduced range on the R1 with 35.5 compared to 34.7, maybe 1/2- 3/4 mile range. I get much longer range on 34.7.

There are factory resets you can do as well.

How much do you wanna dive deep into troubleshooting this?
 

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Your in the minority for sure and the independent testing and other RDF member testing is complete opposite to your experience. Something is off, as Deadhead1971 said, maybe a cold unit or defective, but hard to assist with limited details. Do you have another member close by that cant help test? If you do, please post videos. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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@quazilla

It’s ok to rant and rave but if you want help or suggestions, we need a little more info.

What are your settings? Firmware version?

What’s your turf terrain? Flat, mountains, hilly?

What bands and frequencies do you encounter? Ka 33.8, Ka 34.7, or Ka 35.5?

I encounter 35.5 the most which is a hard signal to detect (even more off axis around curves), and I often get reduced range on the R1 with 35.5 compared to 34.7, maybe 1/2- 3/4 mile range. I get much longer range on 34.7.

There are factory resets you can do as well.

How much do you wanna dive deep into troubleshooting this?
Part rant, but I really do want to work it out. Somewhat trying to trigger a response and solicit some questions like what you are asking. I want to see what I am doing wrong, then I will escalate to the manufacturer if it seems like a hardware/software type issue.

I do understand that my other units are from different manufacturers, though, so it isn't necessarily an apples to apples comparison; and I have been using detectors for a while but that isn't to say I am doing it right... just this unit has been mostly a disappointment. Especially compared to older units and technology.


Settings & Firmware- Firmware 1.37.196.000 (was already but I reflashed it again) I always run Highway, KPOP OFF, KFilter On, Ka Pop OFF, KA Seg 2/4/5/6/8, TSR OFF. Automute is off.

Turf/Terrain- West Virginia, Ohio, Maryland so far (and 98% of the time). Definitely not flat, lots of hills, twists and turns, some mountain. I am primarily rural type roads/highways and freeway/interstate/intrastate driving. But it seems like I should be able to detect before I can physically see bogeys. I don't have any expectations for empty roads, I know it is a detector and if there is nothing to detect it is still working just fine.

Bands Encountered- All of the above. K, X, and all bands of Ka. Laser, I don't expect anything I own to do much except to tell me I just got boned.
 
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I'm surprised your Redline and V1 don't drive you insane with BSM false K band alerts. That's where the R1 should shine. Heck if you must pick up a KA gun off ebay and do some testing with all your units. Then sell the gun here on the forum so someone else can do the same.
 

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I'm surprised your Redline and V1 don't drive you insane with BSM false K band alerts. That's where the R1 should shine. Heck if you must pick up a KA gun off ebay and do some testing with all your units. Then sell the gun here on the forum so someone else can do the same.
As far as testing the unit, I was honestly expecting that the manufacturer already did that; hence my frustration.

Really I don't get an incredible amount of false K's here, we aren't exactly a largely wealthy demographic here. Most of them are from newer model Hondas, and those drive my R1 nuts all the same.

After a lot of time reading today and watching videos (which I had done extensively in the past, time and time again) it seems like I am expecting something that either isn't there (fake videos?) or I got a seriously cold unit. I suspect the latter more than anything, but I will be trying to re-flash the device and reset it again first. When I bought the unit, I did read a fair amount of reviews and forum posts (not just this site) that mentioned faulty units that required manufacturer repairs or replacements... it is quite possible I am one of the lucky ones.
 

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Part rant, but I really do want to work it out. Somewhat trying to trigger a response and solicit some questions like what you are asking. I want to see what I am doing wrong, then I will escalate to the manufacturer if it seems like a hardware/software type issue.

I do understand that my other units are from different manufacturers, though, so it isn't necessarily an apples to apples comparison; and I have been using detectors for a while but that isn't to say I am doing it right... just this unit has been mostly a disappointment. Especially compared to older units and technology.


Settings & Firmware- Will update this post once I find my indoor 12v source- but right off I can say it is segmented and I always run Highway.

Turf/Terrain- West Virginia, Ohio, Maryland so far (and 98% of the time). Definitely not flat, lots of hills, twists and turns, some mountain. I am primarily rural type roads/highways and freeway/interstate/intrastate driving. But it seems like I should be able to detect before I can physically see bogeys. I don't have any expectations for empty roads, I know it is a detector and if there is nothing to detect it is still working just fine.

Bands Encountered- All of the above. K, X, and all bands of Ka. Laser, I don't expect any of them to do much.
Not sure if you’ve seen this thread- www.rdforum.org: Range threads - real world

Others have contributed but my range results are there. Take a look and see how it might compare to your results.

Based on your location, Ka 35.5 will likely be short-range alerts, especially around curves. It will be shorter than 34.7.

I’ve experienced the ghost alerts where it’s a weak 1 or 2 bar signal strength meter alert and don’t see anything. I’ve had wow moments with 35.5 where the alert was maybe 3 to 4 seconds around a curve (constant on moving 35.5 towards me).

For Ka, I run segments 2,5,6 and 8. Running Ka wide is like the old detectors running on Ka superwide band- it can open you up to false Ka alerts. Better to segment or at least run Ka narrow. I also run Ka filter OFF.

More to discuss but let’s stop here for now to get your comments.
 

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Part rant, but I really do want to work it out. Somewhat trying to trigger a response and solicit some questions like what you are asking. I want to see what I am doing wrong, then I will escalate to the manufacturer if it seems like a hardware/software type issue.

I do understand that my other units are from different manufacturers, though, so it isn't necessarily an apples to apples comparison; and I have been using detectors for a while but that isn't to say I am doing it right... just this unit has been mostly a disappointment. Especially compared to older units and technology.


Settings & Firmware- Will update this post once I find my indoor 12v source- but right off I can say it is segmented and I always run Highway.

Turf/Terrain- West Virginia, Ohio, Maryland so far (and 98% of the time). Definitely not flat, lots of hills, twists and turns, some mountain. I am primarily rural type roads/highways and freeway/interstate/intrastate driving. But it seems like I should be able to detect before I can physically see bogeys. I don't have any expectations for empty roads, I know it is a detector and if there is nothing to detect it is still working just fine.

Bands Encountered- All of the above. K, X, and all bands of Ka. Laser, I don't expect any of them to do much.
Just a question. If you are running segmented, why are you not running it in "advanced" instead of " highway " ? Also if it's only a few months old why not send it back to the mother ship. Warranty ?
 
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Just a question. If you are running segmented, why are you not running it in "advanced" instead of " highway " ?
I do not drive in town enough to justify reducing power on any band, and my travels take me where all bands are in use.

So you are tooling along the freeway, state boy goes by on the other side (KA). Then here comes county crew sitting in the median (K). Then you cross the river and here comes the other state's boy (KA or X) and the county guy (X or K). So you pass the city kitty (K or X) and you head back across the river, now you pass a different county cruiser (KA) heading the opposite direction and merge onto a different highway where you pass a couple of city kitty having a conversation over a smoke and some donuts (KA + K).

Would I benefit by using Advanced? And how/why? I currently use Ka Segmenting, I have tried it on wide/narrow/segmented.. nothing jumped out as the most effective.
 
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Seg only deals with Ka bands. It has nothing to do with X or K bands..
 

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I'm not sure I understand what segmenting and the advanced selection have to do with each other?

And it should be under warranty but I have this thing wrong with me where I want to figure it out and fix it myself. I think the medical term is 'testicles'.

I will give it the week now that I have reset it, and if I am not seeing at least performance on par with what I expect from my V1 I will be initiating the warranty process. In the meantime I am going to keep scouring the forum and bugging other members to try to educate myself a little better. Seems like I am already in the ballpark but there is that medical condition I mentioned.
 
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I sometimes get escort and Uniden terminology mixed up. I don’t think the R1 has an “auto” setting like the escort. But “city” mode on the R1 neuters K band down to around 18-20%.

If you experience all of that mess (x,k and Ka), the Radenso Pro M might be a better fit for your area.

I experience Ka 35.5 (90%), Ka 34.7 (9%), and K (1% maybe once a year in certain areas only). I don’t count laser since tbe R1 hasn’t even alerted through 3 traps.
 
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R series has Highway/City/Advanced
 

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Yea, meant Advanced...

And that's what I thought, that the advanced setting just took X and K bands down a peg.
 

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Just a question. If you are running segmented, why are you not running it in "advanced" instead of " highway " ? Also if it's only a few months old why not send it back to the mother ship. Warranty ?
Segmentation is not impacted by ones choice of advanced/highway.

Correct segs for your area + highway mode will yield the best range. Which segs do you have enabled @quazilla?
 

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Segmentation is not impacted by ones choice of advanced/highway.

Correct segs for your area + highway mode will yield the best range. Which segs do you have enabled @quazilla?
I run 2/4/5/6/8. Apparently I could probably get away with 2/5/8 but I can't confirm the equipment being used and it was considered 'safer' to enable 4+6 to account for out of tune guns. even at that, 5 segments is half of the 10 total- should still be working in my favor, right?

Now my V1 has told me POP before- WVSP and OHSP- should I enable POP on the R1? I have read mixed accounts on this one, but seems like KA POP OFF is the recommendation.
 

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As far as testing the unit, I was honestly expecting that the manufacturer already did that; hence my frustration.

Really I don't get an incredible amount of false K's here, we aren't exactly a largely wealthy demographic here. Most of them are from newer model Hondas, and those drive my R1 nuts all the same.

After a lot of time reading today and watching videos (which I had done extensively in the past, time and time again) it seems like I am expecting something that either isn't there (fake videos?) or I got a seriously cold unit. I suspect the latter more than anything, but I will be trying to re-flash the device and reset it again first. When I bought the unit, I did read a fair amount of reviews and forum posts (not just this site) that mentioned faulty units that required manufacturer repairs or replacements... it is quite possible I am one of the lucky ones.

The reason I suggested getting your own gun was this. Yes Uniden has tested the heck out of it. That said YOUR encounters are what matters. For what you have spent on those 3 detectors it would be no big deal to get a KA gun and find out for yourself. You can then sell the gun and break even. If you don't like that option then sell the R1and be done. I think once your done testing you will see the R1 kicks butt. The encounters your not happy with might just be conditions or how the officer was operating the gun. No two radar encare the same, too many variables.
 
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The reason I suggested getting your own gun was this. Yes Uniden has tested the heck out of it. That said YOUR encounters are what matters. For what you have spent on those 3 detectors it would be no big deal to get a KA gun and find out for yourself. You can then sell the gun and break even. If you don't like that option then sell the R1and be done. I think once your done testing you will see the R1 kicks butt. The encounters your not happy with might just be conditions or how the officer was operating the gun. No two radar encare the same, too many variables.
I just have no way to test, really. I am pretty much alone in the world these days, literally almost every person I have ever known is dead.

LOL and my wifey is not going to take our children and run a radar gun for me. Haha, yes I asked....
 
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