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I won't continue to recap my hours of research lol. At this point I am going to grab my R3 and see where access via USB will get me!
Well, please, feel free to add onto this thread with whatever research you have and what you come up with!
I tried the USB route but ultimately gave up on it when I saw that nothing was being broadcast there. There may be some data if theres a debug mode, but short of doing button combinations or fuzzing the com port, I just decided to ignore the USB for now.
 

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Here is what gives me minor frustration in the broad picture. Original outsourced OEM designers have all the raw data at great accuracy within the platform. The “company” that packages this makes internal decisions not to have enhanced version of the product (higher cost additional model if needed) available to customers. In the link a San Francisco Silicon Valley cool smart guy @yandreev3, no RD engineering experience, with alligator clips and his ecosystem off the self tech, in a day shows us what is really going on. And says the enhancements are very doable for a final product. What are these brand “manufacturers” thinking? Small ball, IMO.

Thank you for the enlightenment.

Some natural self shaming should be going on at Uniden, @UnidenSupport. Especially in light of the R7 announcement. You should have a “R8” announced at same time with open API device, or something proprietary as a complete set of products (or both). You have been embarrassed, IMO, buy someone who in a day “broke the code” of how much great stuff is already available in the platform you have outsourced?

Someday, someone beside Valentine Research will make their own products sourced from within. I am surprised that Uniden OEM supplier of engineering, and products does not introduce their own brand. Many years ago vagabonds who ran a USA consumer brand called “Craig”, so limited their contract engineering/manufacturer Sanyo, Sanyo legally broke ranks and brought in their own brand with the tech they had that Craig refused to market. Craig died a fast death. As a youngster back then, I have remembered this example in business all these years. Nothing new under the sun. If any OEMs are listening, and you have superior tech your lazy American or European OEM reseller customers refuse to take advantage of, legally figure out how you can get us the good stuff directly. :)
First of all, rude that you call me a "San Francisco Silicon Valley cool smart guy". I do not associate with that shithole of a city....lol

But in all seriousness, I really do not agree with you (If I am understanding correctly what you are saying). I think you're seeing it as super black and white. When you say that the company makes internal decisions not to have an enhanced version, you make it sound like they are sandbagging for no reason. While it would be easy as dirt for uniden to open up an api with a firmware update, I don't think its very viable the way it is right now. Let me explain my logic:

Based on my research so far, my understanding for features that exist but are not out to the end user are
  • Extra signal strength resolution
  • Laser gun PPS detection
Having extra things like that as well as wireless, an api, and subsequently an app for android/ios is so much extra time and money from uniden. It would be a lot more R&D, it would be a lot more areas in which they need to provide support, it would be a huge cost for the developers needed to make it happen. Uniden came out with a detector that performed like a beast and then slapped a laughably low price tag on it (IMO). It has all of the features one could possibly need realistically and it is done well. Not to mention uniden has been a great company and has supported me well so far. Charles on here went above and beyond for a dumb request I had and got it done.

I think that Uniden had a talk with a lot of smart people and decided that the price point they are at now is perfect for what they wanted to bring to the market. If it was more expensive due to more "features" that would raise their cost as well as your cost.

One last thing, In all honesty, I do not think having an open API like that is even a good thing. Sure I get that it is cool to be able to see and control your detector from your phone, but personally I would rather have physical buttons that are separate and don't have to rely on my mobile device.
I think if uniden were to add an API, it would be detrimental to the end users. Look at the V1. It virtually hasn't been updated since mike popped out of the womb. It was created with an API and then left to die out in the yard until a third party started writing apps for it and making it usable. The only reason the V1 is so popular currently isn't because of valentine research. It is because of people who make the third party apps such as yav1, v1driver, jbv1, etc. I can see uniden releasing an open api and then the changelog basically ending there since they've now offloaded all of their work to the community.

Sorry post is slightly rambly and incoherent. Haven't slept in a few days.
 

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First of all, rude that you call me a "San Francisco Silicon Valley cool smart guy". I do not associate with that ****hole of a city....lol

But in all seriousness, I really do not agree with you (If I am understanding correctly what you are saying). I think you're seeing it as super black and white. When you say that the company makes internal decisions not to have an enhanced version, you make it sound like they are sandbagging for no reason. While it would be easy as dirt for uniden to open up an api with a firmware update, I don't think its very viable the way it is right now. Let me explain my logic:

Based on my research so far, my understanding for features that exist but are not out to the end user are
  • Extra signal strength resolution
  • Laser gun PPS detection
Having extra things like that as well as wireless, an api, and subsequently an app for android/ios is so much extra time and money from uniden. It would be a lot more R&D, it would be a lot more areas in which they need to provide support, it would be a huge cost for the developers needed to make it happen. Uniden came out with a detector that performed like a beast and then slapped a laughably low price tag on it (IMO). It has all of the features one could possibly need realistically and it is done well. Not to mention uniden has been a great company and has supported me well so far. Charles on here went above and beyond for a dumb request I had and got it done.

I think that Uniden had a talk with a lot of smart people and decided that the price point they are at now is perfect for what they wanted to bring to the market. If it was more expensive due to more "features" that would raise their cost as well as your cost.

One last thing, In all honesty, I do not think having an open API like that is even a good thing. Sure I get that it is cool to be able to see and control your detector from your phone, but personally I would rather have physical buttons that are separate and don't have to rely on my mobile device.
I think if uniden were to add an API, it would be detrimental to the end users. Look at the V1. It virtually hasn't been updated since mike popped out of the womb. It was created with an API and then left to die out in the yard until a third party started writing apps for it and making it usable. The only reason the V1 is so popular currently isn't because of valentine research. It is because of people who make the third party apps such as yav1, v1driver, jbv1, etc. I can see uniden releasing an open api and then the changelog basically ending there since they've now offloaded all of their work to the community.

Sorry post is slightly rambly and incoherent. Haven't slept in a few days.
There's a lot (unfortunately) of truth to your statement. Even @Jon at Radenso suggest that those who want an API make up 1% or less of the market share. I suspect those numbers will grow quite a bit more in the coming years or decades. I may be wrong but based on the connected home culture that we're experiencing I believe it's only a matter of time until that mentality carries over to our cars. While I'm neither a fan not detractor of Escort, I believe they see it and that probably explains the push for Escort Live.

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There's a lot (unfortunately) of truth to your statement. Even @Jon at Radenso suggest that those who want an API make up 1% or less of the market share. I suspect those numbers will grow quite a bit more in the coming years or decades. I may be wrong but based on the connected home culture that we're experiencing I believe it's only a matter of time until that mentality carries over to our cars. While I'm neither a fan not detractor of Escort, I believe they see it and that probably explains the push for Escort Live.

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Great insight in to both sides of it.

Not linking to my phone doesn’t make or break any detector that’s out there now. Well maybe Valentine, but that good, but older tech that needs it to stay relevant. I don’t base my purchase on that one option.

I’m sure that the other 97% of normal users out in the real world don’t either.

I’m in a catch 22 statement like the one I just made. I updated my smart watch because I don’t want it to be tethered to my phone for information want or need.

I prefer having the information on one device right in my field of view the moment it happens. The faster I go, the more important that gets.

It’s good to have choices. It all comes down to personal preference when it comes right down to it.

I think sometimes we forget that RDF is a bubble world and no matter how many times [email protected] BRD and [email protected] tell us that we are not their target market.

I think the work going on in this thread is fantastic just to see what may be possible.


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Great insight in to both sides of it.

Not linking to my phone doesn’t make or break any detector that’s out there now. Well maybe Valentine, but that good, but older tech that needs it to stay relevant. I don’t base my purchase on that one option.

I’m sure that the other 97% of normal users out in the real world don’t either.

I’m in a catch 22 statement like the one I just made. I updated my smart watch because I don’t want it to be tethered to my phone for information want or need.

I prefer having the information on one device right in my field of view the moment it happens. The faster I go, the more important that gets.

It’s good to have choices. It all comes down to personal preference when it comes right down to it.

I think sometimes we forget that RDF is a bubble world and no matter how many times [email protected] BRD and [email protected] tell us that we are not their target market.

I think the work going on in this thread is fantastic just to see what may be possible.


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Couldn't agree more!
 

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One last thing, In all honesty, I do not think having an open API like that is even a good thing. Sure I get that it is cool to be able to see and control your detector from your phone, but personally I would rather have physical buttons that are separate and don't have to rely on my mobile device.
I think if uniden were to add an API, it would be detrimental to the end users. Look at the V1. It virtually hasn't been updated since mike popped out of the womb. It was created with an API and then left to die out in the yard until a third party started writing apps for it and making it usable. The only reason the V1 is so popular currently isn't because of valentine research. It is because of people who make the third party apps such as yav1, v1driver, jbv1, etc. I can see uniden releasing an open api and then the changelog basically ending there since they've now offloaded all of their work to the community.

Sorry post is slightly rambly and incoherent. Haven't slept in a few days.
:bravo:

I agree 100% with this!!!

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Amazing work! I think its safe to say most of our R1/R3s are out of warranty and we wouldn't even mind sending it to someone (you) to add a jack/BT for a fee or even release a how to for us DIYs. Soldering isn't my strong point but if its just a few spots then no biggy! Regardless good job! Lets hope something more comes out of this soon! :D
 

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First of all, rude that you call me a "San Francisco Silicon Valley cool smart guy". I do not associate with that ****hole of a city....lol

But in all seriousness, I really do not agree with you (If I am understanding correctly what you are saying). I think you're seeing it as super black and white. When you say that the company makes internal decisions not to have an enhanced version, you make it sound like they are sandbagging for no reason. While it would be easy as dirt for uniden to open up an api with a firmware update, I don't think its very viable the way it is right now. Let me explain my logic:

Based on my research so far, my understanding for features that exist but are not out to the end user are
  • Extra signal strength resolution
  • Laser gun PPS detection
Having extra things like that as well as wireless, an api, and subsequently an app for android/ios is so much extra time and money from uniden. It would be a lot more R&D, it would be a lot more areas in which they need to provide support, it would be a huge cost for the developers needed to make it happen. Uniden came out with a detector that performed like a beast and then slapped a laughably low price tag on it (IMO). It has all of the features one could possibly need realistically and it is done well. Not to mention uniden has been a great company and has supported me well so far. Charles on here went above and beyond for a dumb request I had and got it done.

I think that Uniden had a talk with a lot of smart people and decided that the price point they are at now is perfect for what they wanted to bring to the market. If it was more expensive due to more "features" that would raise their cost as well as your cost.

One last thing, In all honesty, I do not think having an open API like that is even a good thing. Sure I get that it is cool to be able to see and control your detector from your phone, but personally I would rather have physical buttons that are separate and don't have to rely on my mobile device.
I think if uniden were to add an API, it would be detrimental to the end users. Look at the V1. It virtually hasn't been updated since mike popped out of the womb. It was created with an API and then left to die out in the yard until a third party started writing apps for it and making it usable. The only reason the V1 is so popular currently isn't because of valentine research. It is because of people who make the third party apps such as yav1, v1driver, jbv1, etc. I can see uniden releasing an open api and then the changelog basically ending there since they've now offloaded all of their work to the community.

Sorry post is slightly rambly and incoherent. Haven't slept in a few days.
Ok, no more reference to Sh**hole areas of the country. :) the reference was that someone younger, smart, did not take long to find dim assign stuff and throw up a basic display. Imagine if they paid you a few months contract time. I bet you or someone else would prove you point about too long drawn out expensive process wrong.

I think you are excusing Uniden (or anyone else for thst matter)away. They deserve the questioning. I stand by my assertion from the macro view.

Adding API, or built in Added functions which DO help people with Decent CM mentality, is no detriment. Why would you assume if they added a API, the rest of progress would go into a time warp standstill? V1 is not the example to use.

I think Attowave needs to do this themselves. Because their partners that rebrand and hold back what is already there (and more would be added later), is a travesty to us. And millions more potential customers.

I guess we will see if this industry stays stuck in the days like propeller driven technology of the past. Those who whined about Whittle invention, and scoffed for decades right up until the 707 did a barrel roll at air show, ended up on the ash heap of history. So many other example since then.

If the existing retail sellers of contract manufactured porodcrs do not jump ahead, Someone will. Someone new will realize sale volumes not seen from the past will come back again. Let’s hope at least.

@Jon at Radenso spoke about all this from his top floor perspective. He gets it. Go find some of the post related to this topic around RDF. He may decide to dis what he might thinks as naive and neophyte, my opinions in a response. Because I do not reside on top floor of this industry. In the end, he speaks big on change needed in tech, leadership smd branding of this CM ecosystem.

If you think a Uniden talked to “smart people” about all this, Isiggest they or anyone else find some different “smart” people.
 

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There's a lot (unfortunately) of truth to your statement. Even @Jon at Radenso suggest that those who want an API make up 1% or less of the market share. I suspect those numbers will grow quite a bit more in the coming years or decades. I may be wrong but based on the connected home culture that we're experiencing I believe it's only a matter of time until that mentality carries over to our cars. While I'm neither a fan not detractor of Escort, I believe they see it and that probably explains the push for Escort Live.

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So forget the open API idea. Make it built in or integrated, or part of something else. The <1% is mostly due to the extra complexity and hobby like work with V1 extended products. Amazon conquered because their UI was several clicks less than someone else (plus other dumb fracking easy DFE ways to help customers do business who them). Other example of hardware, abound where advanced capabilities become easy peasey, common place reality.

I guess years ago automatic climate control in a car was “<1%”. Yet, today those who “want to control my own temp” with manual controls are maybe <10% today and shrinking. The examples are endless. Those the transform and transform their brand thrive for decades. Those that stagnate, think things cost to much to do, or the market is dying/flat, also end up at some point on ash heap of history.

One can look at the “small market” HAM electronics ecosystem. Those long standing brands that thought the same way are DOA today. New brands abound with unheard of a few years ago capability and performance. Yet, at affordable cost for a small world market (compared to othe comsumer electronic markets). Maybe those HAMS inside this industry ought to look at that to benchmark how the CM ecosystem is doing.

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:bravo:

I agree 100% with this!!!

GTO_04
Who says it is one or the other?! My favorite vehicles have the most advanced tech yet, also have knobs and buttons. My G90, Ascent, and others meet this requirement.

Think big folks. It is NOT either/or choice on most of this.
 

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Ok, no more reference to Sh**hole areas of the country. :) the reference was that someone younger, smart, did not take long to find dim assign stuff and throw up a basic display. Imagine if they paid you a few months contract time. I bet you or someone else would prove you point about too long drawn out expensive process wrong.

I think you are excusing Uniden (or anyone else for thst matter)away. They deserve the questioning. I stand by my assertion from the macro view.

Adding API, or built in Added functions which DO help people with Decent CM mentality, is no detriment. Why would you assume if they added a API, the rest of progress would go into a time warp standstill? V1 is not the example to use.

I think Attowave needs to do this themselves. Because their partners that rebrand and hold back what is already there (and more would be added later), is a travesty to us. And millions more potential customers.

I guess we will see if this industry stays stuck in the days like propeller driven technology of the past. Those who whined about Whittle invention, and scoffed for decades right up until the 707 did a barrel roll at air show, ended up on the ash heap of history. So many other example since then.

If the existing retail sellers of contract manufactured porodcrs do not jump ahead, Someone will. Someone new will realize sale volumes not seen from the past will come back again. Let’s hope at least.

@Jon at Radenso spoke about all this from his top floor perspective. He gets it. Go find some of the post related to this topic around RDF. He may decide to dis what he might thinks as naive and neophyte, my opinions in a response. Because I do not reside on top floor of this industry. In the end, he speaks big on change needed in tech, leadership smd branding of this CM ecosystem.

If you think a Uniden talked to “smart people” about all this, Isiggest they or anyone else find some different “smart” people.
Steve Jobs and the iPhone! What was everyone else doing at the time?

"I just want a phone that make phone calls, nothing else." -My father circa 2009.
"Hey, I picked up some more Phillips Hue bulbs but Alexa isn't recognizing them. Can you drop by and see where I went wrong in the app?" -My father circa last week

Also my father, "I quit listening to scanners when everything went digital. If I picked up a new digital trunking scanner, would you help be program it?" The man is 70 years old and still interested. He already has eyes on my R1 and is easily a -10 PSL driver. He didn't know he wanted any of the new tech until I introduced it to him.

I imagine the future something like this: Hey (Uniden, Radenso, Valentine, Escort, Cobra, Bel Tronics, Whistler, TMG, ALP, K40, etc), report (Honda false, Arkansas State Police, Volvo laser, etc). Then the programming knows your direction of travel and speed and can self report to other units not to alert to the pesky door openers, etc. Why be limited to 200, 500, or even 1000 lockouts on an individual device when you can have all the data stored in the cloud ready to be drawn up at a moments notice? Imagine a situation where manufacturers actually shared an open database (much like the Android environment) and the data was updated as you travel. If arrows in a radar detector are worth $400-$650, what would complete situational awareness be worth? We know there are folks out there that will pay over $10K for custom installed laser and radar protection (not me). How about a complete solution for under $1000? Even better, what about a self reporting unit for under $500? This sounds a bit crazy, I know. But look at how far phones have come in the last two decades.
 

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Steve Jobs and the iPhone! What was everyone else doing at the time?

"I just want a phone that make phone calls, nothing else." -My father circa 2009.
"Hey, I picked up some more Phillips Hue bulbs but Alexa isn't recognizing them. Can you drop by and see where I went wrong in the app?" -My father circa last week

Also my father, "I quit listening to scanners when everything went digital. If I picked up a new digital trunking scanner, would you help be program it?" The man is 70 years old and still interested. He already has eyes on my R1 and is easily a -10 PSL driver. He didn't know he wanted any of the new tech until I introduced it to him.

I imagine the future something like this: Hey (Uniden, Radenso, Valentine, Escort, Cobra, Bel Tronics, Whistler, TMG, ALP, K40, etc), report (Honda false, Arkansas State Police, Volvo laser, etc). Then the programming knows your direction of travel and speed and can self report to other units not to alert to the pesky door openers, etc. Why be limited to 200, 500, or even 1000 lockouts on an individual device when you can have all the data stored in the cloud ready to be drawn up at a moments notice? Imagine a situation where manufacturers actually shared an open database (much like the Android environment) and the data was updated as you travel. If arrows in a radar detector are worth $400-$650, what would complete situational awareness be worth? We know there are folks out there that will pay over $10K for custom installed laser and radar protection (not me). How about a complete solution for under $1000? Even better, what about a self reporting unit for under $500? This sounds a bit crazy, I know. But look at how far phones have come in the last two decades.
Exactly!

Your dad is classic example.

Jobs is classic example. Created whole new ecosystem out of a mature stodgy “new and improved” business.,

Your image of the future scratches the surface. Great start. I think there are other new folks we do not know who have no blinders who go beyond our natural thinking. I look for those to pop up soon. We shall see.
 
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Guys, don't forget you don't need to work out the GPS data as I have already done that. I've been working on the firmware, and have all the encryption removed for R3, DFR7, R7 this includes all the different parts of the UI, the DSP, the GPS and database.

A lot of it I can work with already, but I think using something like Ghidra can really open everything up. However this not supported on my old 32bit Windows PC. If anyone wants to give me a hand using Ghidra lets open this right up. I am at the point where Uniden has quite pissed me off removing low K band detection on the 129 R7 firwmare, so I now fancy not only changing scanning widths but also lets open up the sensitivity and see what else these detectors can do.

My work on the DFR9 has already made this a much better detector than the standard version.
 

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Guys, don't forget you don't need to work out the GPS data as I have already done that. I've been working on the firmware, and have all the encryption removed for R3, DFR7, R7 this includes all the different parts of the UI, the DSP, the GPS and database.

A lot of it I can work with already, but I think using something like Ghidra can really open everything up. However this not supported on my old 32bit Windows PC. If anyone wants to give me a hand using Ghidra lets open this right up. I am at the point where Uniden has quite pissed me off removing low K band detection on the 129 R7 firwmare, so I now fancy not only changing scanning widths but also lets open up the sensitivity and see what else these detectors can do.

My work on the DFR9 has already made this a much better detector than the standard version.
Shoot me a PM and we can get it figured out!
 

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Steve Jobs and the iPhone! What was everyone else doing at the time?

"I just want a phone that make phone calls, nothing else." -My father circa 2009.
"Hey, I picked up some more Phillips Hue bulbs but Alexa isn't recognizing them. Can you drop by and see where I went wrong in the app?" -My father circa last week

Also my father, "I quit listening to scanners when everything went digital. If I picked up a new digital trunking scanner, would you help be program it?" The man is 70 years old and still interested. He already has eyes on my R1 and is easily a -10 PSL driver. He didn't know he wanted any of the new tech until I introduced it to him.

I imagine the future something like this: Hey (Uniden, Radenso, Valentine, Escort, Cobra, Bel Tronics, Whistler, TMG, ALP, K40, etc), report (Honda false, Arkansas State Police, Volvo laser, etc). Then the programming knows your direction of travel and speed and can self report to other units not to alert to the pesky door openers, etc. Why be limited to 200, 500, or even 1000 lockouts on an individual device when you can have all the data stored in the cloud ready to be drawn up at a moments notice? Imagine a situation where manufacturers actually shared an open database (much like the Android environment) and the data was updated as you travel. If arrows in a radar detector are worth $400-$650, what would complete situational awareness be worth? We know there are folks out there that will pay over $10K for custom installed laser and radar protection (not me). How about a complete solution for under $1000? Even better, what about a self reporting unit for under $500? This sounds a bit crazy, I know. But look at how far phones have come in the last two decades.
First of all, I am AMAZED at the skill I have seen on this thread already. Man I wish I had the expertise I've seen here.

The only problem I see with comments like this and a couple of others about where the future should go with CM's and the shoot for the moon mentality, is that the CM market is still way smaller than the comparisons to cell phones, or smart home tech, or automobile tech. You are talking about companies that sell Billions of dollars of product vs RD's that are probably one of the smallest "niche" tech markets out there. How many smartphones do you think the average family in the US owns? How many RD's do they own? RD's have been around considerably longer than smartphones or the other tech, yet they are still lagging way behind. Including as has been mentioned Ham radio and even scanners. This might change if Theia is the game changer everyone hopes it will be. It might shift the paradigm enough to kickstart an entirely new way of using and seeing RD's.

Further, as has already been talked about with automation, it seems that self driving cars are looming ever larger than before, and I'm guessing that if and when that revolution really hits, it will significantly change driving styles and patterns pertaining to speeding. Many of the younger generation that you have talked about don't seem to interested in even driving their own vehicles, let alone speeding in one. I am amazed at how many kids don't even get a drivers license until after they move out of the parents house nowadays. I was at the DMV at age 16 and 1 second to get my license. If this continues, then we will be the last generation of enthusiasts that are even worrying about RD's. (I pray that the self driving craze dies a quick death!)

I am thoroughly amazed at the ability of the minds and tech skills of the people of this forum, but I just have to remind myself what a small percentage of the population we represent. I'd love to know what percentage of sales RD's make up of Unidens portfolio. I'd wager it isn't very much.
 
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Interesting... what is the programming language used in R1? Would it be possible to fix the hardware limit?
 

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Interesting... what is the programming language used in R1? Would it be possible to fix the hardware limit?
No. It’s a parts based limit. Not something that can be adjusted.
 

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So I have been messing with the uniden R1 lately (virtually the same as the R3 as this post is concerned). Anyways, my goal was to be able to read what the detector was seeing and use that information for myself whether it is for an upcoming RDF project or to integrate in a car, or whatever else.

The uniden has 3 ports on it. One is audio, one is usb, and one is the RJ11 power port.

We can ignore the audio jack for now. Usb jack is for updating firmware. Have not seen any data on that unless there is a way to put it in a debug mode but unless I lube up for uniden, I doubt I will be easily able to find out how. The RJ11 port has 4 pins. One is ground, one is power, one is an output that blinks the LED on the "smart" power cord, and the last one is for the power cord mute button.
What all of that means is no easy external access to data in the uniden.

So after ripping that poor little detector apart and seeing how it was designed, I found a spot inside I can connect to and sniff some data using my logic analyzer. Special thanks to @InsipidMonkey for sending me his radar unit and entrusting me with it. Could not have figured this out without him.

A few hours later, I had the important bits figured out such as reading what band is being detected, at what exact frequency, and at what strength. There is a bit more data there but I have not looked at it too hard.
I won't be posting any details of what I have found here or making it public for a variety of reasons. If you really want to know, you can try to figure it out for yourself and I'll be more than happy to point you in the right direction.

Here is a video showing a proof of concept: One thing I mentioned in that video was the ability to track multiple radar signals at the same time (demonstrated as Ka band and K band simultaneously.) Going back and reviewing data, this may not be correct and I apologize. I will have to look into it a bit more.



This opens up the possibility to add bluetooth/wifi to the detector. The issue here is that where I am tied into, I have almost no control. All I can do is change what mode the detector is in (city, highway, advanced). That being said now that I am typing this, there is an easy way to get around that and be able to mute the detector and/or mark locations.

One thought was for an integrate-able module that has wifi/bluetooth and fits in the detector, hooking up relatively easily to be made and some software written for android/IOS to talk to it for people who may want to use their phones with the uniden.
My other thought was to replace the 4 pin power jack with a 6 pin one so that way existing cables will still work, but theres an extra 2 pins for a custom RDF made cable that interfaces with your car or with a separate wireless unit or whatever.
What are your thoughts on this?
My thoughts are it's way too early in the morning and not all of us have a PhD in electronics oh and by the way there is nothing wrong with the R1 or R3 they're the top of the list and the best the way they come
 

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