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I own both an R3 and Pro M. I love radar detectors and finding the deficiencies in these radar detectors especially when it comes to MultaRadar.
 

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The R3 & Pro M are excellent choices.
 

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Welcome @RDL which one you like best?
 

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Welcome to the Forum @RDL. You're the 3rd Canuck I have seen today that has just signed up! Enjoy the site!
 
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Welcome @RDL which one you like best?
Hey... I live in Grande Prairie, AB. The photo radar up here is quite widespread. Hence I needed a detector that provides the best MultaRadar detection. I was hoping the R3 was going to provide the coverage I needed however even with the 1.46 firmware update and MRCD enabled the detector has never alerted to any of the photoradar units in the city. I actually just purchased the Pro M during a Boxing Day sale at Visions. I can’t comment much about it as of right now as I haven’t had any seat time with it yet. I’m hoping it will live up to my expectations.
 

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Hey... I live in Grande Prairie, AB. The photo radar up here is quite widespread. Hence I needed a detector that provides the best MultaRadar detection. I was hoping the R3 was going to provide the coverage I needed however even with the 1.46 firmware update and MRCD enabled the detector has never alerted to any of the photoradar units in the city. I actually just purchased the Pro M during a Boxing Day sale at Visions. I can’t comment much about it as of right now as I haven’t had any seat time with it yet. I’m hoping it will live up to my expectations.
Whoa, that doesn't sound right. Something wrong there! Check your settings, it is turned on right? That R3 should be squawking.
 

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Whoa, that doesn't sound right. Something wrong there! Check your settings, it is turned on right? That R3 should be squawking.
I’m running pretty much the same settings as outlined on the website kmph.ca. Article “Programming the Uniden R1 and R3 settings for Canada”. More specifically the recommended settings for Alberta. I’ve drove by the trucks shooting in mostly school zones and some of the major roadways. Different trucks all shooting out the back windows. My R3 has never made a bleep. I’m looking forward to scouting out some photoradar trucks with the Pro M and comparing. I’m assuming the units in GP are shooting below the cutoff of the R3 24.05ghz but I have no way of confirming that.
 

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I’m running pretty much the same settings as outlined on the website kmph.ca. Article “Programming the Uniden R1 and R3 settings for Canada”. More specifically the recommended settings for Alberta. I’ve drove by the trucks shooting in mostly school zones and some of the major roadways. Different trucks all shooting out the back windows. My R3 has never made a bleep. I’m looking forward to scouting out some photoradar trucks with the Pro M and comparing. I’m assuming the units in GP are shooting below the cutoff of the R3 24.05ghz but I have no way of confirming that.
Different trucks all shooting out the back windows >>>>> When I see trucks in my area shooting out the back window, that is laser! Generally, photo radar is from the front of the truck to capture the rear plate. There is so much equipment for photo enforcement that needs to be mounted, the preferred location is the front. Stuff like the radar transponder, the camera, the flash emitter, and likely a data piece of equipment to handle recording the images and information. So have a real close look at the front of the truck for the equipment. If it's not there I think you are dealing with laser. If it is photo after all then I would take a guess that G.P. (city police?) have contracted out to units of MRCD that use the lower 24.05 GHz. Let me know what you find.
 

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They’ve had this type of setup in Ft.Saskatchewan for a while. Maybe 10 years or more?

They use to set up in the opposite side ditch and shoot out the back. Mostly in front of the Dow Chemical Plant on your way to Shell Scotford. I’m not sure if it’s Lidar or was at the time. It was quite a while ago.

KrazyK is right. Usually photo radar has a flash. Photo Lidar does not.

Photo Radar runs 24/7.
Photo Lidar is daytime only.

Photo Radar is primarily front facing. Shooting you from the rear.
Photo Lidar can shoot every way they want but it’ll be from the back as we, obviously, have no front plates. The camera is incorporated to the gun.

If it’s Photo Lidar, doesn’t matter which detector you run. You’ll need ALP or TMG.

For Photo radar. The order of preference would be Pro-M, R-Ex, R3.

The R3 has better MRCD range than the R-EX, but gets knocked down to 3rd because of the hardware limitations. Both the R3 and R-Ex are below the range of the Pro-M in this regard.

That being said, the R3 MRCD detecting is pretty close to the Pro-M.


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They’ve had this type of setup in Ft.Saskatchewan for a while. Maybe 10 years or more?

They use to set up in the opposite side ditch and shoot out the back. Mostly in front of the Dow Chemical Plant on your way to Shell Scotford. I’m not sure if it’s Lidar or was at the time. It was quite a while ago.

KrazyK is right. Usually photo radar has a flash. Photo Lidar does not.

Photo Radar runs 24/7.
Photo Lidar is daytime only.

Photo Radar is primarily front facing. Shooting you from the rear.
Photo Lidar can shoot every way they want but it’ll be from the back as we, obviously, have no front plates. The camera is incorporated to the gun.

If it’s Photo Lidar, doesn’t matter which detector you run. You’ll need ALP or TMG.

For Photo radar. The order of preference would be Pro-M, R-Ex, R3.

The R3 has better MRCD range than the R-EX, but gets knocked down to 3rd because of the hardware limitations. Both the R3 and R-Ex are below the range of the Pro-M in this regard.

That being said, the R3 MRCD detecting is pretty close to the Pro-M.


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They’ve had this type of setup in Ft.Saskatchewan for a while. Maybe 10 years or more?

They use to set up in the opposite side ditch and shoot out the back. Mostly in front of the Dow Chemical Plant on your way to Shell Scotford. I’m not sure if it’s Lidar or was at the time. It was quite a while ago.

KrazyK is right. Usually photo radar has a flash. Photo Lidar does not.

Photo Radar runs 24/7.
Photo Lidar is daytime only.

Photo Radar is primarily front facing. Shooting you from the rear.
Photo Lidar can shoot every way they want but it’ll be from the back as we, obviously, have no front plates. The camera is incorporated to the gun.

If it’s Photo Lidar, doesn’t matter which detector you run. You’ll need ALP or TMG.

For Photo radar. The order of preference would be Pro-M, R-Ex, R3.

The R3 has better MRCD range than the R-EX, but gets knocked down to 3rd because of the hardware limitations. Both the R3 and R-Ex are below the range of the Pro-M in this regard.

That being said, the R3 MRCD detecting is pretty close to the Pro-M.


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Interesting. With that said, would a radar detector alert that you are being shot with laser? I mean I’ve driven by these things and my R3 has never made a bleep.
 

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They’ve had this type of setup in Ft.Saskatchewan for a while. Maybe 10 years or more?

They use to set up in the opposite side ditch and shoot out the back. Mostly in front of the Dow Chemical Plant on your way to Shell Scotford. I’m not sure if it’s Lidar or was at the time. It was quite a while ago.

KrazyK is right. Usually photo radar has a flash. Photo Lidar does not.

Photo Radar runs 24/7.
Photo Lidar is daytime only.

Photo Radar is primarily front facing. Shooting you from the rear.
Photo Lidar can shoot every way they want but it’ll be from the back as we, obviously, have no front plates. The camera is incorporated to the gun.

If it’s Photo Lidar, doesn’t matter which detector you run. You’ll need ALP or TMG.

For Photo radar. The order of preference would be Pro-M, R-Ex, R3.

The R3 has better MRCD range than the R-EX, but gets knocked down to 3rd because of the hardware limitations. Both the R3 and R-Ex are below the range of the Pro-M in this regard.

That being said, the R3 MRCD detecting is pretty close to the Pro-M.


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You’re right they do use Photo Lidar. I found discussion on it in the City of GP website. www.cityofgp.com: City of Grande Prairie, Alberta : Frequently Asked Questions
 

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Interesting. With that said, would a radar detector alert that you are being shot with laser? I mean I’ve driven by these things and my R3 has never made a bleep.
Pretty much none of them.

Think of it this way. At 1000 feet, the laser diameter is about 3 feet. So at 500 feet it’s about 18”. There is a little scatter, but no radar detector will reliably alert or help you.

None of the operators will ever shoot at your windows. They’ll shoot at something flat. Bumper. License plate. Even if they were shooting at the front of your car/truck.

Laser detection ability is more if a marketing thing than an actual usable option on any radar detector. Like a ticket notifier.

You can see it when you use a laser pointer. Police Lidar is the same sort of thing, but you can’t see it.

If you don’t want to invest in a Lidar jammer, and your right, they’re not cheap, your best defence is situational awareness. I know it sucks, but unfortunately that’s how it is.

The great thing about having both the Pro-M and R3 is if you decide to sell one, you’ll have no trouble finding a buyer. They’re both fantastic radar detectors.


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