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Alright, could we move on from the VG-bashing? He did what he did and you guys have responded. After a certain point, are we just being mean-spirited about it? I dunno..:
Taking advantage of unsuspecting consumers is also mean-spirited.
 

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It's been done. . @OpenRoad has already don't it with R1 rear and Redline front.

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@fitz4321 please share, would love to see it. No reason why original Post should be removed.

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Yep, he hadn't changed his ways in ALWAYS trying to get the scoop, even when he's wrong or given highly confidential information. I don't trust my headlights with Veil crap coating, why do they trust him with valuable Intel?

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Don't know about the dog part, but you got the other ones right!

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Thanks Tom @BestRadarDetectors that totally changes the complexion of this issue. If they had intended to leak it, they would not be showing it in a private hotel suite. Fact is, their trust was breached and now it's ruined for future reveals.

This is not the first time Bob has fine this. We saw it with the Max360 and many other units. He always wants to get the "scoop" and his reputation in the business is $h/it. Why he'd even be invited or allowed to attend a " private" reveal us beyond me. He must surely move a lot of freight to be allowed to attend these reveals. That's what ER used to say about Roy.
Alright, could we move on from the VG-bashing? He did what he did and you guys have responded. After a certain point, are we just being mean-spirited about it? I dunno..:
on the contrary - it should become a part of everyones signature so that all potential future customers of his know the truth.
 

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5.5 hours until announcement
 

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Did Mike V sell to Uniden?
 

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I hope the announcement is. “Here’s version 1.50 that solves 99% of the BSM issues”. If Uniden didn’t pull resources away from the R1/3, are they saying that they hired completely new engineers for the R7? Because I still believe those resources were pulled away for this new one and that’s why we haven’t seen anything since 1.46.
 

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I hope the announcement is. “Here’s version 1.50 that solves 99% of the BSM issues”. If Uniden didn’t pull resources away from the R1/3, are they saying that they hired completely new engineers for the R7? Because I still believe those resources were pulled away for this new one and that’s why we haven’t seen anything since 1.46.
maybe you arent looking hard enough. just sayin.
 

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I hope the announcement is. “Here’s version 1.50 that solves 99% of the BSM issues”. If Uniden didn’t pull resources away from the R1/3, are they saying that they hired completely new engineers for the R7? Because I still believe those resources were pulled away for this new one and that’s why we haven’t seen anything since 1.46.
maybe you arent looking hard enough. just sayin.
I was thinking the same thing. What is the belief based on? We know work is being done. Also, I'm sure Uniden is being more tight-lipped this time around with their FW updates due to all the hell they've caught from people's "beliefs" on the forum before and after the 1.46 release.
 
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Stay tuned for an announcement tomorrow at 10am Pacific, 1pm Eastern.
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Alright, could we move on from the VG-bashing? He did what he did and you guys have responded. After a certain point, are we just being mean-spirited about it? I dunno..:
but it's so fun to listen to the same old bashing. I have to wonder if these people are the same ones that were either bullied in school and became bullies or were just bullies. A friend of mine I write to in our prison ministry said " behind every bully lies a coward" yea we got it, you dont like veil. Its snake oil, Bob's a whatever. Yep I think I would just not buy veil or not ever talk to bob that's what I do with people I dont like.
 

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but it's so fun to listen to the same old bashing. I have to wonder if these people are the same ones that were either bullied in school and became bullies or were just bullies. A friend of mine I write to in our prison ministry said " behind every bully lies a coward" yea we got it, you dont like veil. Its snake oil, Bob's a whatever. Yep I think I would just not buy veil or not ever talk to bob that's what I do with people I dont like.
Why is a bit of fun being poked at Veil more significant than selling stuff that doesn’t work at all? Just taking the piss, not bullying.
 

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Why is a bit of fun being poked at Veil more significant than selling stuff that doesn’t work at all? Just taking the piss, not bullying.
in my opinion, no that's not right a little poking is not what goes on here sometimes. As far as veil goes, up until him and Margie came and tested I had my doubts too, but it did cut down on some PT on some guns and some it didnt. There again, if someone dont like it dont buy it. Bob is a sells guy, hes going to push his product Jon. Tom, escort, etc will never say " yea go buy something else" me on the other dont get a paycheck from non of them and will give you my experience just like vortex. Have you tried the newer veil? If you did, and it didnt work, ok lesson learned.
 

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in my opinion, no that's not right a little poking is not what goes on here sometimes. As far as veil goes, up until him and Margie came and tested I had my doubts too, but it did cut down on some PT on some guns and some it didnt. There again, if someone dont like it dont buy it. Bob is a sells guy, hes going to push his product Jon. Tom, escort, etc will never say " yea go buy something else" me on the other dont get a paycheck from non of them and will give you my experience just like vortex. Have you tried the newer veil? If you did, and it didnt work, ok lesson learned.
Since I was mentioned I figured a response was warranted. I would not sell something if it did not work and I do not oversell my customers. Many times I would tell a customer something was not needed if they did not need something instead of pushing a sale. I pulled the VEIL Product from our site after I tested it several years ago,
 

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Since I was mentioned I figured a response was warranted. I would not sell something if it did not work and I do not oversell my customers. Many times I would tell a customer something was not needed if they did not need something instead of pushing a sale. I pulled the VEIL Product from our site after I tested it several years ago,
well tom I'm sure you wouldn't tell someone to buy a product you dont sell either. You're a business man that was my point. If you want to talk about what I meant you have my number and I'm always up for a good conversation
 

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well tom I'm sure you wouldn't tell someone to buy a product you dont sell either. You're a business man that was my point. If you want to talk about what I meant you have my number and I'm always up for a good conversation
Your post stated: "Bob is a sells guy, hes going to push his product Jon. Tom, escort, etc will never say " yea go buy something else"

Before I sold the ALP when someone asked me for the best Jammer I would tell them to contact Cliff because at that time the Laser Interceptor was the best jammer on the market. So yes I would tell someone to buy something else if something was better for the customer. While I sell the NR I do also send some people to Radenso because the RCM is a better fit for some people. For me its about what is best for my customers.
 

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in my opinion, no that's not right a little poking is not what goes on here sometimes. As far as veil goes, up until him and Margie came and tested I had my doubts too, but it did cut down on some PT on some guns and some it didnt. There again, if someone dont like it dont buy it. Bob is a sells guy, hes going to push his product Jon. Tom, escort, etc will never say " yea go buy something else" me on the other dont get a paycheck from non of them and will give you my experience just like vortex. Have you tried the newer veil? If you did, and it didnt work, ok lesson learned.
Reducing LIDAR readings at over 1000ft is not impressive at all. A $20 can of black plasti dip can achieve the same thing.
 

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RCM is a better fit for some people. For me its about what is best for my customers.
which also can be used with the alps. But regardless that's awesome you do that.

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Reducing LIDAR readings at over 1000ft is not impressive at all. A $20 can of black plasti dip can achieve the same thing.
it was under 1000 feet with the stalker but hey, you got what you need and it dont impress you, dont get it.
 

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which also can be used with the alps. But regardless that's awesome you do that.

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it was under 1000 feet with the stalker but hey, you got what you need and it dont impress you, dont get it.
Well considering all of my LIDAR encounters are sub 500ft, yea I'd call it useless.
 

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Well considering all of my LIDAR encounters are sub 500ft, yea I'd call it useless.
ok well then, don't get it. All I can tell you is my experience in one test and my results.
 
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