"Updated" Escort Live app coming ~~Feb 1st~~ eventually (4 Viewers)

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According to this press release, Escort will be releasing an updated version of Escort Live on Feb 1st after demoing it at CES. (@Vortex are you going?)

Here are the "new" features:
  • A Reimagined User Interface optimized to reduce driver distraction while providing highly relevant driving alerts and information
  • Enhanced Map View with direction up mode, embedded traffic, night mode, and auto-zoom based on vehicle speed for improved navigation capabilities
  • Pop-Up Alerts mirror the detector display to clearly warn of upcoming driving threats while simultaneously providing contextual information from the Map View
  • New CloudSource™ Platform intelligently aggregates and displays information from multiple sources including sensors, databases, and user input, ensuring driver alerts are always relevant, timely and accurate
  • Get Directions provides routing information to get you to your destination while avoiding delays
  • Car Finder makes it easy to find your vehicle, even in the most confusing parking lots
It will be interesting to see what sources they draw from for their "CloudSource Platform". I wonder if they worked out an agreement with Waze/Google finally?
 

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Can't wait to see what they came up with. Let's face it, Escort Live is still stuck in 2012.
 

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Oh cool this is public now. So yeah, Escort doesn't have any new products they'll be announcing at CES, but they're completely revamping Escort Live apparently. The idea is thinking of the software as a service. They don't have a booth at CES this year, but they do have some meeting rooms like last year, primarily for meetings instead of showing off products, but I will be stopping by there to take a look at what they have in mind regarding the changes for Escort Live (and iRadar).

On a sort of related note, but I don't know (yet) how much of this is going to be implemented, when I was in West Chester and spoke with the engineers off camera, they have a LOT of data they've collected over the years and they can do some really creative stuff with it. The app itself has been pretty stagnant up to this point, but if they wanted to, they could do some really cool stuff with all the data. (I don't remember how much of the brainstorm ideas were meant to be public info at this point, but I'm sure you guys could think of most of the same ideas too.) :)

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On a related note, anyone got suggestions or ideas for things you're hoping to see in this new version of Escort Live?

I'm hoping for things like arrows to be displayed in the app (that data is already being transmitted from the Max360 series detectors anyways), nationwide lockouts derived from the cloud, and detectors that can program themselves to turn bands/segments on and off depending on where you drive. Basically tighter integration with the RD to give us something more than a more automated form of Waze.
 

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On a related note, anyone got suggestions or ideas for things you're hoping to see in this new version of Escort Live?
I wonder if they've been checking out the JBV1 forum?
 

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And ideally not alerting every other driver to the BSMs that another driver dealt with at that location in the past...
 

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I am very happy/excited to see this new app when it is finally released. My only concern is the early January 'showing' of the app and a debut set for a month later. Does that much more work need to be done? Will there be further delays? Hopefully it stays on track. This is a step in the right direction!
 

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Looking forward to the map improvements like night mode and direction-up mode...those were long overdue.

As long as they can get Live to keep a stable connection all these improvements sound great!
 

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On a sort of related note, but I don't know (yet) how much of this is going to be implemented, when I was in West Chester and spoke with the engineers off camera, they have a LOT of data they've collected over the years and they can do some really creative stuff with it. The app itself has been pretty stagnant up to this point, but if they wanted to, they could do some really cool stuff with all the data. (I don't remember how much of the brainstorm ideas were meant to be public info at this point, but I'm sure you guys could think of most of the same ideas too.) :)
With all the data I wonder if they will integrate POI's of known enforcement locations like you used to be able to get with Trapster so if there is a spot that users report an LEO often at it could be marked on the app which would be helpful during off peak hours when other drivers might not be out to report activity but we could be on heightened alert in that area.
 

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I just tried escort live again for the first time in two years since I have a redline EX to play with... used EL for two days and haven't touched it since. no matter how many times I set the overspeed warning to off, it turns right back on again and starts alerting me every time I go over the speed limit... if i set it to a certain speed over the limit that setting sticks... but i still get multiple overspeed alerts per trip that I don't want. . also unless they fix the alerts you receive only happening for the road you are travelling on or on your planned route it's useless. I live within a mile of the interstate so I get constant Live KA band alerts sitting in my driveway from people on the highway even if i'm driving away from it. do hope they can make it a useful app with some of the mentioned improvements, but compared to Waze it's very limited in usefulness around me anyway.

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With all the data I wonder if they will integrate POI's of known enforcement locations like you used to be able to get with Trapster so if there is a spot that users report an LEO often at it could be marked on the app which would be helpful during off peak hours when other drivers might not be out to report activity but we could be on heightened alert in that area.
it already does the, it alerts to known speed trap locations and airpatrol locations, it's helpful if you are not from the area, but around your home turf the alerts get annoying and ignored pretty quickly..
 

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I wonder if they've upgraded their hardware. EL has a bad habit of crashing on holiday weekends, and not being fixed until the next business day.
 

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I wonder if frequency and location will be shown in the alert history? That would make me use the app every day.
Also, I get the over-speed alerts too, but setting it at the highest speed over psl helps reduce that problem.
 

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no matter how many times I set the overspeed warning to off, it turns right back on again and starts alerting me every time I go over the speed limit...

I live within a mile of the interstate so I get constant Live KA band alerts sitting in my driveway from people on the highway even if i'm driving away from it.
Are you running it on iOS or Android? I set my overspeed off and it has never turned on once. When you change settings via the app it is best to then close the app and manually power down the RD, not via the ignition, for it to remember the settings correctly.

As for your Ka band alerts, if you are driving (pointing) towards the source it will alert you but as soon as you turn away and head the opposite direction it should stop alerting, it does for mine.
 

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Live has so much potential...glad to see an attempt to improve it.

Now I just hope it is stable on Android!

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Oh cool this is public now. So yeah, Escort doesn't have any new products they'll be announcing at CES, but they're completely revamping Escort Live apparently. The idea is thinking of the software as a service. They don't have a booth at CES this year, but they do have some meeting rooms like last year, primarily for meetings instead of showing off products, but I will be stopping by there to take a look at what they have in mind regarding the changes for Escort Live (and iRadar).

On a sort of related note, but I don't know (yet) how much of this is going to be implemented, when I was in West Chester and spoke with the engineers off camera, they have a LOT of data they've collected over the years and they can do some really creative stuff with it. The app itself has been pretty stagnant up to this point, but if they wanted to, they could do some really cool stuff with all the data. (I don't remember how much of the brainstorm ideas were meant to be public info at this point, but I'm sure you guys could think of most of the same ideas too.) :)

--- DOUBLEPOST MERGED ---

On a related note, anyone got suggestions or ideas for things you're hoping to see in this new version of Escort Live?

I'm hoping for things like arrows to be displayed in the app (that data is already being transmitted from the Max360 series detectors anyways), nationwide lockouts derived from the cloud, and detectors that can program themselves to turn bands/segments on and off depending on where you drive. Basically tighter integration with the RD to give us something more than a more automated form of Waze.
A couple of things standout. I don’t think it is a positive that there is no new hardware. What I believe is happening is Escort is using what it already has, loads of user data which required no additional cost to obtain since they already had it, repackaging that data into a new product and calling it innovation. They may even sell the data to insurance companies or for advertising, who knows. By Escort going down this road it creates a perceived future value for valuation and acquisition purposes only but in reality less than innovative. Why do you think they kept giving annual subscriptions away to EL after the year was up. They needed us to provide more data so they could create a perceived service. Usage was super low (most likely due to waze) so more time was needed to get the data points needed.

When the foundation of hardware takes a back seat to services you know they are in a R&D void. You can have one without the other but Escort won’t be able to innovate themselves into a service company. Can’t and won’t happen. Others call it putting lipstick on a pig. The CEO doesn’t have the background to lead a company into innovation. She has the ability to cut cost into profitability which makes the P&L look good and then she needs to get this pig sold.

Lastly not investing in a booth at CES tells me that they are resource thin and spending whatever funds they have on smoke and mirrors. Again, my opinion.
 
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I just tried escort live again for the first time in two years since I have a redline EX to play with... used EL for two days and haven't touched it since. no matter how many times I set the overspeed warning to off, it turns right back on again and starts alerting me every time I go over the speed limit... if i set it to a certain speed over the limit that setting sticks... but i still get multiple overspeed alerts per trip that I don't want. . also unless they fix the alerts you receive only happening for the road you are travelling on or on your planned route it's useless. I live within a mile of the interstate so I get constant Live KA band alerts sitting in my driveway from people on the highway even if i'm driving away from it. do hope they can make it a useful app with some of the mentioned improvements, but compared to Waze it's very limited in usefulness around me anyway.

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it already does the, it alerts to known speed trap locations and airpatrol locations, it's helpful if you are not from the area, but around your home turf the alerts get annoying and ignored pretty quickly..
I haven't used EL in longer I guess thats why I didn't notice the known speed traps.
 

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Lastly not investing in a booth at CES tells me that they are resource thin and spending whatever funds they have on smoke and mirrors.
Why invest in a booth when you can invest in a pool?
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A couple of things standout. I don’t think it is a positive that there is no new hardware. What I believe is happening is Escort is using what it already has, loads of user data which required no additional cost to obtain since they already had it, repackaging that data into a new product and calling it innovation. They may even sell the data to insurance companies or for advertising, who knows. By Escort going down this road it creates a perceived future value for valuation and acquisition purposes only but in reality less than innovative. Why do you think they kept giving annual subscriptions away to EL after the year was up. They needed us to provide more data so they could create a perceived service. Usage was super low (most likely due to waze) so more time was needed to get the data points needed.

When the foundation of hardware takes a back seat to services you know they are in a R&D void. You can have one without the other but Escort won’t be able to innovate themselves into a service company. Can’t and won’t happen. Others call it putting lipstick on a pig. The CEO doesn’t have the background to lead a company into innovation. She has the ability to cut cost into profitability which makes the P&L look good and then she needs to get this pig sold.

Lastly not investing in a booth at CES tells me that they are resource thin and spending whatever funds they have on smoke and mirrors. Again, my opinion.
Very well said.
 

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