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Oh good to know, thanks!! I just reviewed the original video I had of it, and there's a Redlight Traffic Photo Enforced sign on a post in the median, so are these MRCT units part of the RLC detection, or are they also speed on green machines too?

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For Chicago they're used as straight up speed cams. They have different cameras that use multaradar tech that's for speed on green or RLC.

I'd guess they have something separate for the RLC and this was used as a speed cam for all lanes of traffic. Chicago has similar setups, and signs warning you too. There should be a radar enforced sign for the MRCT camera and a separate sign for the RLC.

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For Chicago they're used as straight up speed cams. They have different cameras that use multaradar tech that's for speed on green or RLC.

I'd guess they have something separate for the RLC and this was used as a speed cam for all lanes of traffic. Chicago has similar setups, and signs warning you too. There should be a radar enforced sign for the MRCT camera and a separate sign for the RLC.

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I reviewed the video of the approach from both directions, and only see a RLC warning sign coming in from both directions, nothing about radar. Not much specific info on the web about them yet either. Those high-tech MRCD boxes, tracking multiple vehicles in all lanes of approach, that's some serious high tech highway robbery!
 

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I reviewed the video of the approach from both directions, and only see a RLC warning sign coming in from both directions, nothing about radar. Not much specific info on the web about them yet either. Those high-tech MRCD boxes, tracking multiple vehicles in all lanes of approach, that's some serious high tech highway robbery!
Robbery??? It's about safety!

The City’s speed camera program proves highly effective at deterring speeding. Speeding during school hours
at typical fixed camera locations drops 63 percent. Despite the fact that the City is prohibited from using speed
cameras during the majority of the year, injuries at these locations have dropped 17 percent.

 

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Robbery??? It's about safety!

The City’s speed camera program proves highly effective at deterring speeding. Speeding during school hours
at typical fixed camera locations drops 63 percent. Despite the fact that the City is prohibited from using speed
cameras during the majority of the year, injuries at these locations have dropped 17 percent.

:barf: And statistics are never manipulated or misinterpreted :laugh:

"An analysis of the plates associated with speed camera violations indicates that vehicle owners who receive a speed camera violation are far less likely to receive a second violation." They still speed...just not at those locations! :laugh:
 

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I reviewed the video of the approach from both directions, and only see a RLC warning sign coming in from both directions, nothing about radar. Not much specific info on the web about them yet either. Those high-tech MRCD boxes, tracking multiple vehicles in all lanes of approach, that's some serious high tech highway robbery!
Yeah it's kinda ridiculous what they can do with them. All I have is the FCCID on the cameras which operate on three different K channels and FSK modulation.

Id guess they can use them for a lot of stuff, and this MRCT camera seems to be popping up across the US. RDs like the V1 are sadly not effective at all since detection is basically in the kill zone.

R-EX, Pro M, and R are the ones to get for anyone seeing these threats, despite them being stationary... although I'd throw the EX out the window from all of the MRCT falsing.

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R-EX, Pro M, and R are the ones to get for anyone seeing these threats,
Will these alert as K band with MRCD/MRCT disabled?
 

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Will these alert as K band with MRCD/MRCT disabled?
If I remember correctly for the R, it at least on older firmware was filtering the signal entirely since it's FMCW.

The M won't alert either unless MRCT is on.

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Yeah it's kinda ridiculous what they can do with them. All I have is the FCCID on the cameras which operate on three different K channels and FSK modulation.

Id guess they can use them for a lot of stuff, and this MRCT camera seems to be popping up across the US. RDs like the V1 are sadly not effective at all since detection is basically in the kill zone.

R-EX, Pro M, and R are the ones to get for anyone seeing these threats, despite them being stationary... although I'd throw the EX out the window from all of the MRCT falsing.

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FYI, my EX you tested has latest release. Running MRCT on around here, it is now tolerable. Barely. One reason it seems BSM falsing is slightly down, plus slight moderation of the “bam” full on alert. Combined falses of legacy BSM and MRCT are perceived lower. I had given up on it. Saw some other positive results in RDF, took the time to upgrade. I agree EX is better. I need to run it up your way when get up there to see how the distance is. Assuming the same, EX could do in a pinch. MRCD falsing is not horrible right now either. I am used to Pro M and 360 platform silence. EX is far from that level with MRCT on. I am not promoting the EX. Thought you might like to hear a seat of street observation.
 

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At @Vortex request here is a post I had made in another thread...


From my daily experience in Baltimore and the surrounding counties, most of the local road based photo speed cameras are MRCD/CT and low power K. Low power K are the older ones and it seems like as they upgrade they are moving to the MRCD/CT platform. Same goes for the red light cameras. The older or existing red light cameras are a mix and most of the new ones are MRCD/CT. While I have heard of some permanent Poliscan locations I have not seen any yet, at least that I noticed. The only Poliscan or laser I know of are the mobile units on the highway in construction zones.

Before I started using my R7 I ran with a V1. You need to put it in Euro mode for it to scan low enough to pick up these MRCD/CT and low K cameras. Range is not good under any condition. When there are other cars ahead of you in range of the camera you get the best warning range but conversely if the road is empty you can get very little range. So far my R7 has shown the best range between the two and also the most solid lock on the signal.

I'll try and take some picture of the cameras I see everyday when I have a chance.

General articles about the areas camera system:


This article has a picture of a camera I pass daily.

This is a great nation wide resource from Waze where among other things you can see a list of cameras:
 
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Thanks for the detailed info @doubledge! Does your R7 alert to those as MRCD?

I'm Googling around a bit now and I haven't yet found any reference to American Traffic Solutions (who creates the speed cameras) using MultaRadar for their cameras, but that's not to say that they aren't doing so. Either way, if your detector is able to alert to them one way or another, that's definitely helpful.
 

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Thanks for the detailed info @doubledge! Does your R7 alert to those as MRCD?

I'm Googling around a bit now and I haven't yet found any reference to American Traffic Solutions (who creates the speed cameras) using MultaRadar for their cameras, but that's not to say that they aren't doing so. Either way, if your detector is able to alert to them one way or another, that's definitely helpful.
Yes, my R7 does alert to them. Many, particularly the newer ones come up as MRCD/CT. Other seemingly older ones just as K band and those are getting replaced quickly. Ive also seen the R7 flip back and forth between MRCD and K band consistently in a couple of the same locations. I think this is just an R7 issue with how it defines or identifies the multiple frequencies used with MRCD/CT.
 
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Thanks for the detailed info @doubledge! Does your R7 alert to those as MRCD?
The R7 is just like the R3 last time I ran it.

Both MRCT and MRCD are reported as MRCD. Seems to cause a little confusion among new users.

Then again, the R3/R7’s have no dedicated control over the 2 separate channels.

Your right. Something is better than nothing.
 

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Thanks for the detailed info @doubledge! Does your R7 alert to those as MRCD?

I'm Googling around a bit now and I haven't yet found any reference to American Traffic Solutions (who creates the speed cameras) using MultaRadar for their cameras, but that's not to say that they aren't doing so. Either way, if your detector is able to alert to them one way or another, that's definitely helpful.
The city of Scottsdale utilizes ATS for their speed/RLC's, as well as their portable units which are these small 4 foot high towers they can move from place to place. All of these alert as MRCD on the Uniden R series, and detection distance is quite good. I've been told it's actually MRCT, but the R's don't distinguish.

ATS also manufactures mobile vans with cameras. These however do not alert at MRCD, and are even harder to detect than their competition (Redflex). Redflex uses the AGD-340 radar in their units, no idea what ATS uses in theirs. Whatever it is, it's is very low power K.
 
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Sounds like the same nasty stuff we have in MD so maybe it’s MRCT. Not that it matters.

Detection distance varies but usually not too terrible when other cars are on the road. I do like the new red light cameras. They are on poles and are more powerful than the previous ones. I get great detection range.
 
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I've had mile+ detections for the speed cams with MRCD turned on on my R7. Definitely a different tech than the guys in Canada have with their MRCD trucks. Of course the R7 has a speed cam database, and I've locked out all the cams near me, so why even have MRCD on? For these little mobile things. Looks like the one in the link you posted earlier.


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Sounds like the same nasty stuff we have in MD so maybe it’s MRCT. Not that it matters.

Detection distance varies but usually not too terrible when other cars are on the road. I do like the new red light cameras. They are on poles and are more powerful than the previous ones. I get great detection range.
 
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ATS also manufactures mobile vans with cameras. These however do not alert at MRCD, and are even harder to detect than their competition (Redflex). Redflex uses the AGD-340 radar in their units, no idea what ATS uses in theirs. Whatever it is, it's is very low power K.
They're likely using GATSO radar cams in those vans, which as you stated, is very low power K.
 

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I've had mile+ detections for the speed cams with MRCD turned on on my R7. Definitely a different tech than the guys in Canada have with their MRCD trucks. Of course the R7 has a speed cam database, and I've locked out all the cams near me, so why even have it on? For these little mobile things. Looks like the one in the link you posted earlier.
Wow a mile! That far exceeds my experience. All of our camera in MD are typically facing the direction of traffic so they get you from behind. Any detection is a result of reflection or you might detect one on the opposite side of the road if you're lucky. At best I've gotten about a quarter mile or so, maybe 1500ft. Usually it's less, like 1000ft.
 

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They're likely using GATSO radar cams in those vans, which as you stated, is very low power K.
Could be. Next time I pass by one I may grab a pic, as the radar unit is outside of the van. The moto units in Scottsdale are also using some LIDAR camera made by the same manufacturer, the ATS StreetSafe. Their headquarters are here, so to be expected I guess.
 
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They're likely using GATSO radar... is very low power K.
What is the frequency range of Gatso?
Drove past one with R3 with all bands on & got nothing.
“The speed indicated by the radar unit is too unreliable to be used as the sole means of evidence as it is prone to error due to multiple reflections etc”
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