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Hey, I’m new here so I’m learning as much as possible. I ran a radar detector from about ‘86 to ‘94. After returning to a little quicker car, I’m seeing that a return to having a radar detector is in my best interest. Santa just delivered an R1 to be opened on Christmas Day. I’ll be looking for bands used in Northern Utah and Southern Idaho, if segmentation helps with the R1 in these locations, and where people are mounting their mute buttons when hard wiring. I’m also trying to spot if mounting a dector to the far right or left makes a difference. I’m looking to put mine right by the A pillar, but I don’t want to lose performance. As much of my driving will be in rural locations that may or may not have rabbits available, I want as much range as possible.

Hopefully as I gain experience, I can contribute as well. There is a lot of good info here, and maybe I can add into it in the future.

Thanks for allowing me to join the conversation.
 

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@RRJ Welcome to RDF! Get that R1 out of the box and in to your car now! Wrap the box and put it under the tree!

BTW, contributing to RDF takes all forms, and good questions are a way of contributing too! There is much to learn here for everybody!
 

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Welcome! Congrats on the R1! Can't wait to see the completed install and to read your contributions and your experiences!

Take a look here to find some useful info on what bands you can or should segment:
www.rdforum.org: Need some info while the RDFGS is down? Look here!
Thanks for the link to that spreadsheet. It looks like I’m in a pocket of limited information. The Utah info is south of me and the Idaho info is north. I’ll start sniffing around after Christmas see what’s out there. Maybe there is a way to update that with new info based on what I find?
 

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Welcome! Be sure to turn off X band for sure as you'll just get intersection sensor noise in Cache Valley (and most of the rest of Utah too). X Band isn't used at all in Utah, and I'd bet not in Idaho either.

I have found that there is K band intersection sensors in Cache Valley, so be prepared for lots of K band falses, especially since the R1 doesn't have GPS to perform GPS lockouts with.

The R1 will perform great though as Logan City PD, Cache County Sheriff's, and UHP use Ka band. I'd recommend you set Ka to enabled, and segmentation settings to Ka Narrow -- as they use all the big 3 Ka center frequencies (33.8, 34.7, and 35.5). Ka Narrow will cover you for both low and high drift, while keeping falses to a minimum. They typically use C/O in the area, so you could most likely safely set RDD rejection / RDD filtering to on, to reduce Ka false positive blips from other noisy detectors. Come discuss in the Mountain Prairie section of the forum or the Uniden section and we can continue the discussion there. I have seen K band in use by PD up near Preston, ID. It was about 4 years ago, but I haven't driven up there lately enough to know if it's still in use.

Welcome, again.
 

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Thank you sir, thats helpful. My brother is in Preston and picked up an Escort IX not long ago. I’ll ask him what bands he’s seeing there. He talks like they mostly use constant on in Cache Valley and Franklin County Idaho, which is different from the days when I had my Gul detector running in the early 90’s. If they do that, life is a lot easier. Now it’s figuring out what Box Elder County does.
 

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Thanks for the link to that spreadsheet. It looks like I’m in a pocket of limited information. The Utah info is south of me and the Idaho info is north. I’ll start sniffing around after Christmas see what’s out there. Maybe there is a way to update that with new info based on what I find?
Be interested in your findings. Considering an R1 as well. I’m in Central Wyoming. Thanks!
 
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Be interested in your findings. Considering an R1 as well. I’m in Central Wyoming. Thanks!
Findings thus far are only Ka Band in Franklin County Idaho, Box Elder County, Utah, Weber County Utah. I haven’t been around to confirm they are the only bands, but that’s what I’m seeing. I haven’t yet personally encountered a Box Elder County Sherrif, so I can’t confirm what they use. But the local towns and UHP have been on Ka. I’ll update if I see anything different in these regions.

It’s well known that the Mantua cops in Box Elder use laser on their 2 mile stretch of 89/91, but the Police Chief just got arrested for DUI in his patrol vehicle, so there may be a lull there for a while.

Also seeing Laser by the UHP In I15 in Box Elder County. Haven’t been targeted yet, but seeing them out.

Cache County, UT has been mostly Ka Band with one confirmed K hit. Haven’t seen laser yet.

Strangely, I’ve yet to be hit by I/O. Even when I was one of the few on the road. It’s such a departure from the old days.
 

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Strangely, I’ve yet to be hit by I/O. Even when I was one of the few on the road. It’s such a departure from the old days.
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Findings thus far are only Ka Band in Franklin County Idaho, Box Elder County, Utah, Weber County Utah. I haven’t been around to confirm they are the only bands, but that’s what I’m seeing. I haven’t yet personally encountered a Box Elder County Sherrif, so I can’t confirm what they use. But the local towns and UHP have been on Ka. I’ll update if I see anything different in these regions.

It’s well known that the Mantua cops in Box Elder use laser on their 2 mile stretch of 89/91, but the Police Chief just got arrested for DUI in his patrol vehicle, so there may be a lull there for a while.

Also seeing Laser by the UHP In I15 in Box Elder County. Haven’t been targeted yet, but seeing them out.

Cache County, UT has been mostly Ka Band with one confirmed K hit. Haven’t seen laser yet.

Strangely, I’ve yet to be hit by I/O. Even when I was one of the few on the road. It’s such a departure from the old days.
And just like that, I was hit with instant on in Cache County last night. Had I been speeding, it would have been visit time. Fortunately, I tend not to speed a lot in residential type areas or in snow storms.
 

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It’s well known that the Mantua cops in Box Elder use laser on their 2 mile stretch of 89/91, but the Police Chief just got arrested for DUI in his patrol vehicle, so there may be a lull there for a while.
The previous police chief that retired in 2016, known as "Mantua Mike", used a white Ford F150 and love to sit and run K band and LIDAR. I got hit in 2014 with my RedLine-O. I was picking up his radar gun and then got hit with LIDAR heading while heading north. He retired at the time that Mantua made national headlines for being one of the worse speed traps in the USA. The down side is that the national pressure on Mantua resulted in UHP stepping up their patrols of Sardine Canyon, and now you can almost always bet you will encounter at least one UHP in Sardine Canyon. Previously, it wasn't the case. For every action, there is an equal and yet opposite reaction. Someone pointed out Mantua for being a speed trap. It was. It also is true that Mantua Police Chief Mike was also the Town Mayor. Granted he did not bring in hardly any money for his salary as Mayor, but I don't believe it was a good thing that he was wearing both hats.

You're right... The new police chief was arrested just a few days ago for DUI.

A follow up article confirms it was a medication, but doesn't indicate if it was prescribed or not, or taken as directed. Who knows.



Also seeing Laser by the UHP In I15 in Box Elder County. Haven’t been targeted yet, but seeing them out.
If you do see them in Box Elder, let me know where else you see them besides Mantua... if you do.

Cache County, UT has been mostly Ka Band with one confirmed K hit. Haven’t seen laser yet.
Who was running K band? Do you know what organization it was, and what vehicle make / model?
Thanks in advance!
 
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Welcome to the Forum from Canada! That R1 is a great detector.
 
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If you do see them in Box Elder, let me know where else you see them besides Mantua... if you do.

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Not laser related, but ran into a Box Elder County Sheriff running 34.7. That was a first encounter with one of them.

Also got some pings of 35.5 in Box Elder County but couldn’t confirm the source. It was on a county road running parrellel to I15 maybe 1.5 miles away from it with clear line of sight. This makes me suspect the county may have some 35.5 as well, as I don’t think the UHP has any and I don’t know of other agencies that would have been in that particular area. Unless some rogue agency was traveling up I15 with their radar gun on.
 

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If you do see them in Box Elder, let me know where else you see them besides Mantua... if you do.
Not laser related, but ran into a Box Elder County Sheriff running 34.7. That was a first encounter with one of them.

Also got some pings of 35.5 in Box Elder County but couldn’t confirm the source. It was on a county road running parrellel to I15 maybe 1.5 miles away from it with clear line of sight. This makes me suspect the county may have some 35.5 as well, as I don’t think the UHP has any and I don’t know of other agencies that would have been in that particular area. Unless some rogue agency was traveling up I15 with their radar gun on.
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I was back in the area of the 35.5 hit today and sat a Box Elder County Sherrif vehicle parked at a house. I suspect he had left his radar on the previous day I was through there and I was picking it up. Thus around me, I’m thinking Box Elder has some 35.5, most others have 34.7, and nobody I’ve seen has 33.8. So far, a single I’ve vehicle in Cache County has K band. The rest have been 34.7.
 

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The previous police chief that retired in 2016, known as "Mantua Mike", used a white Ford F150 and love to sit and run K band and LIDAR. I got hit in 2014 with my RedLine-O. I was picking up his radar gun and then got hit with LIDAR heading while heading north. He retired at the time that Mantua made national headlines for being one of the worse speed traps in the USA. The down side is that the national pressure on Mantua resulted in UHP stepping up their patrols of Sardine Canyon, and now you can almost always bet you will encounter at least one UHP in Sardine Canyon. Previously, it wasn't the case. For every action, there is an equal and yet opposite reaction. Someone pointed out Mantua for being a speed trap. It was. It also is true that Mantua Police Chief Mike was also the Town Mayor. Granted he did not bring in hardly any money for his salary as Mayor, but I don't believe it was a good thing that he was wearing both hats.

You're right... The new police chief was arrested just a few days ago for DUI.

A follow up article confirms it was a medication, but doesn't indicate if it was prescribed or not, or taken as directed. Who knows.





If you do see them in Box Elder, let me know where else you see them besides Mantua... if you do.



Who was running K band? Do you know what organization it was, and what vehicle make / model?
Thanks in advance!
In addition to the Cache County Sherrif I mentioned in other posts, I ran into a Brigham City cop running K band instant on, on Main Street the other night. That’s not a bad tactic considering the amount of K falses on that street. Someone without GPS lockouts or a good memory of where the falses are could ignore and get nailed.

Very seldom do I see Brigham City patrolling the highway so I don’t think there is much risk there, but it is good to know there is a little K band around. Brigham City doesn’t seem to run much radar and most that I’ve seen is 34.7. So far the K band had been an anomaly.

Also confirmed another 35,5 Box Elder County Sherriff hit as well. I’m starting to believe most of them are 35.5.
 

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In addition to the Cache County Sheriff I mentioned in other posts, I ran into a Brigham City cop running K band instant on, on Main Street the other night. That’s not a bad tactic considering the amount of K falses on that street. Someone without GPS lockouts or a good memory of where the falses are could ignore and get nailed.

Very seldom do I see Brigham City patrolling the highway so I don’t think there is much risk there, but it is good to know there is a little K band around. Brigham City doesn’t seem to run much radar and most that I’ve seen is 34.7. So far the K band had been an anomaly.

Also confirmed another 35,5 Box Elder County Sheriff hit as well. I’m starting to believe most of them are 35.5.
Was the Brigham City PD with the K Band a car, truck, or SUV? I'll add the info into the RDFGS: RDF Geographical Survey - Temporary Viewing System
 

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