Busted for 105 mph in a 75... AZ

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I'm interested to know where and what time of day this took place? Not because I'm nosy, but because I frequentest the PHX metro area and can lean from this.

Just yesterday, I had seen about 30-ish motorcycle HP officers in a group with one of those enforcement trucks entering the freeway form the I-17 and Pinnacle Peak Rd. (North Central PHX) I'm not sure what type of gig they were going to play at, but I never seen so many HP at one time. No cruisers though. The time was yesterday 11-25-18 @ 4:10 pm. Most likely not DUI, but Speed and/or HOV enforcement.

Yes, you have to remain ticket free in Arizona for two years or else your next ticket will get reported to your insurance provider, but all you pay for is the cost of the class and the ticket is dismissed. ADOT is hoping it's residence become better drivers as a result. As AZ has a very high accident rate, due to the fact that many people are moving here from all over the U.S. for the nice weather (most of the time) and job opportunities. This fact creates as strange driving dynamic that I cannot explain. Problem is, many are moving in form California and consequently changing our conservative political structure and freedoms as a result. They are moving from the tyranny of an ever increasing and burdensome governmental, financial, tax, and socialism policy, only to set up a new social tyranny here!
 

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Sorry to hear. I'm guessing it wasn't just the sound, it was the excessive speed that also drew his attention. Pacing is one of the tactics I worry about.
I didnt see if you mentioned what he wrote on the ticket as how he clocked your speed. Was it just pacing or was there Laser ?
Yeah, you lucked out and had a decent LEO encounter. Good luck.
 

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Yes, you have to remain ticket free in Arizona for two years or else your next ticket will get reported to your insurance provider, but all you pay for is the cost of the class and the ticket is dismissed.
That settles it for me! I was wrong in my opinion that the officer misspoke to C7Fan about this. It's always been my experience in other parts of the country that you can have the points dropped, deals made, etc. but they want that fine paid.
 

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Sucks that you got caught, but if all you have to do isa online course I would say you are Lucky. How do you get a ticket for excessive fuel consumption? I have never heard of that.
 

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As @InsipidMonkey said
Two of the most important rules
Dont drive loud flashy rides and have a night game completely different than your day game
Where im at unfortunately their so good i cant see them at night so i never break +15 and if i do have a rabbit

Youre blind at night
And a sitting duck to moving IO on sections without traffic
 

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I stopped doing excessive speeding at night long ago, never more than +7 - cant see as well anymore!
 

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I think I call the court, tell them I want to do the defensive driving course online, finish it and I dont pay the ticket or anything. No points or insurance stuff.
Wait.. . If you do defensive driving that takes away the fine?!?! Wtf
A few years ago in a different state, I called the clerk of the court and found out that I qualified to take an online driving course in lieu of making court appearance and risking a conviction with fine. Now, I didn't pay a "fine," but instead I had to pay "administrative charges" which were higher than the fine would have been. I paid that in addition to paying the online driving course test fee. Yeah, I was out some additional bucks, BUT, there was no conviction, no points, and no car insurance increase.

Even if you have a good enough driving record that you can absorb the points, you never know what will happen tomorrow. You may get popped again and be facing points you can't make go away. Then you'd sure wish you hadn't taken the points on the earlier incident, because following the latest traffic stop, you may be facing the old shoe leather express.
 

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I'm interested to know where and what time of day this took place? Not because I'm nosy, but because I frequentest the PHX metro area and can lean from this.

Just yesterday, I had seen about 30-ish motorcycle HP officers in a group with one of those enforcement trucks entering the freeway form the I-17 and Pinnacle Peak Rd. (North Central PHX) I'm not sure what type of gig they were going to play at, but I never seen so many HP at one time. No cruisers though. The time was yesterday 11-25-18 @ 4:10 pm. Most likely not DUI, but Speed and/or HOV enforcement.

Yes, you have to remain ticket free in Arizona for two years or else your next ticket will get reported to your insurance provider, but all you pay for is the cost of the class and the ticket is dismissed. ADOT is hoping it's residence become better drivers as a result. As AZ has a very high accident rate, due to the fact that many people are moving here from all over the U.S. for the nice weather (most of the time) and job opportunities. This fact creates as strange driving dynamic that I cannot explain. Problem is, many are moving in form California and consequently changing our conservative political structure and freedoms as a result. They are moving from the tyranny of an ever increasing and burdensome governmental, financial, tax, and socialism policy, only to set up a new social tyranny here!
Phoenix is famous for using colored mustangs (yellow) last i saw
Pretending to be a left lane driver then pacing the driver in front them activating the emergency lights

Its the type of stuff that makes your local citizens hate the police and i suspect why other depts dont do it
 

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Protip: don't be a dick to a cop lol. Just put the keys up and chill.
Exactly. You can be 100% in the right and you still will have a really bad day if you want to argue with the cop on the side of the road. Cops are human too, and being nasty to them probably won't end well for you. If you've got one who gets off on that sort of thing, arguing with them could be the "excuse" they're looking for to mess up the rest of your week.

Chill, be cordial, and take the citation. Once you've gotten home and de-stressed, and you're thinking more clearly, then you can consider your options.
 

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@C7Fan sorry to hear about your encounter with LEO. Your demeanor after the stop helped tremendously in keeping you out of the unit's rear seat handcuffed and on your way to jail.
A loud exhaust attracts attention for good and bad reasons. LEO was drawn by it and simply paced your Vette before initiating roadside disco lights show. Only way to avoid that would've been to drive the limit or PSL+5-7 since it was at night. I recall my advice about your Vette:
C7 in your case the more laser heads on your Vette the better. Red Corvette will draw laser hits like moths to the flame, and any LE will want to paint your "silhouette" on their unit given half a chance. Stay safe and good luck.
To any LEO your red Vette looks like this Big Boy pictured:
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A really nice trophy.
Hope your issue gets resolved satisfactorily. Take care.
 

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Sucks that you got caught, but if all you have to do isa online course I would say you are Lucky. How do you get a ticket for excessive fuel consumption? I have never heard of that.
I was running late to work in my Camaro SS back in 2016 and the cop was super chill. All I paid was like 25 bucks no points or anything.

And for anyone wondering it was I-40 between Winslow and Flagstaff. I was driving home from work leaving Winslow when it happened. That stretch from the 65mph and forested areas leaving Flag are always speed traps. Winslow usually the traps are on the East end headed toward Holbrook, which is why I feel stupid cause I got on it leaving town.

Wife and I are house shopping, I just got off a hot train, (I work for a class one railroad) was thinking of finals this week and was trying to schedule a home showing with our reality agent lol.

My schedule is so crazy busy with college, work, and music I just enjoy cruising in the car lol. Oh well yeah the LEO was super chill because with a railroad you need a valid drivers license to work since you are FRA certified and work a licensed position.

I'll grab the ticket later and see what he used. I'm assuming pacing.
 
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Got a 101mph just leaving Tucson. Motocycle LEO said he got me on LIDAR but my Escort Redline never alerted to the laser and just a week ago I was getting laser alert tones just fine. Also, I didn’t think laser could be used effectively from behind?
Laser can definitely be used from behind! You may want to look into a set (front & rear) of laser jammers for your ride :)
 

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i've taken the defensive driving course route to avoid points and reduce the fine in multiple states....multiple times....

Pretty sure you will still pay a fine around $100 in addition to the online course fee. No biggie.

I actually just got back to Texas from a trip out to UT/AZ and drove through that area. Luckily i was in my Jeep and it doesn't go fast haha. Just about every LEO i came across from Flagstaff to Houston was using CO Ka and the R3 picked it up from miles away.
 

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So wow. It finally happened. LEO wasn't speed trapping or anything. He heard my Vette getting on the on ramp (muffler delete go figure), tailed me at night and before I knew it red and blue in my mirror. It scared the **** out of me.

I had enough sense to stash my R3 in the Vette's cubby hole for valuables (THANK YOU GM), and had the keys up on the dash ready. Not a peep from my R3, nothing on Waze. Nothing. But he did have of course a dash cam with the speed limit.

So I haven't had any sort of offense on my license since 2016 (cop gave me an "excessive fuel consumption" ticket) and that's it. The LEO told me he already booked two people for jail. I guess anything 86+ is deemed criminal speed in Arizona.

He cited me and said if I did the defensive driving school the points wouldn't go against my license or my insurance thank god and let me drive away. The only reason why he even let me go is I wasn't a dick and my job requires me to have a valid drivers license to work. Plus he kinda well really liked the car....


I'm still ****ing rattled. The damn R3 has saved me so many times, I've marked the traps on my commute, but man I never in my wildest dreams would have thought a cop would tail me from an exhaust note...

So my question is what now? I'm obviously going to do the defensive driver course online, but since I have such a damn lead foot and the car is so easy to speed in, any advice? Besides yeah not gunning it within any town limits. He also told me people will call me in simply cause I'm in a red Stingray. Lots of haters **** like that.

So wow. At least I didn't go to jail.
I can tell you what this is having prosectuted many many traffic offenses back in the day. Thats where you go straight out of law school: Traffic Court where you can't do much damage, most of the offenses are civil and you'll get the DUIs and the Reckless offenses.

ITS the car and the sound that got you. I don't car if you were using the new V2 or Redline EXcess or R1/3, COPS now and have always looked at certain cars are a "red Flag" for a stop. Vettes, Porsches, Camaros/Firebirds. In fact, when they'd testify, the first words out of their mouth were never "A CAR" but, "I observed a Red or Yellow Corvette traveling at a high rate of speed and hit him with my radar and clocked him at 105 MPH." Oh "and your honor, the car was very loud and thats why I noticed him."

If you were driving a Nissan Altima, Malibu or minivan at the same speed, it would have been I saw a "car" traveling at a high rate of speed and used my radar." (but he probably wouldnt have gone out of his way to notice you in the first place. ) There's something about sports cars that just stick out like asore thumb. In fact, I eimmediatelynoticed when our fellow members got called in on his Mustang that on a scanner, the first thing that the dispatcher stated was a Black MUSTANG traveling at a high rate of speed. Yes, I know its for descriptive purposes for the officers , BUT the fact is, it was emphasis MUSTANG. Plus, I think that sports cars are an envy purchase and those who dont have them dislike them (and usually because they're either driving a Prius or a Subaru. )
 

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@C7Fan What was the make and model of the patrol vehicle and did he have his headlights on? Did you notice a vehicle following you when you were at 105? And if so how long?
 

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@C7Fan What was the make and model of the patrol vehicle and did he have his headlights on? Did you notice a vehicle following you when you were at 105? And if so how long?

I never noticed him at all. I was distracted on the damn phone trying to schedule a reality agent to show a home lol. Oh. And the ticket says "radar" which is false. My r3 never detected anything. Nothing. Nada.
 

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I can tell you what this is having prosectuted many many traffic offenses back in the day. Thats where you go straight out of law school: Traffic Court where you can't do much damage, most of the offenses are civil and you'll get the DUIs and the Reckless offenses.

ITS the car and the sound that got you. I don't car if you were using the new V2 or Redline EXcess or R1/3, COPS now and have always looked at certain cars are a "red Flag" for a stop. Vettes, Porsches, Camaros/Firebirds. In fact, when they'd testify, the first words out of their mouth were never "A CAR" but, "I observed a Red or Yellow Corvette traveling at a high rate of speed and hit him with my radar and clocked him at 105 MPH." Oh "and your honor, the car was very loud and thats why I noticed him."

If you were driving a Nissan Altima, Malibu or minivan at the same speed, it would have been I saw a "car" traveling at a high rate of speed and used my radar." (but he probably wouldnt have gone out of his way to notice you in the first place. ) There's something about sports cars that just stick out like asore thumb. In fact, I eimmediatelynoticed when our fellow members got called in on his Mustang that on a scanner, the first thing that the dispatcher stated was a Black MUSTANG traveling at a high rate of speed. Yes, I know its for descriptive purposes for the officers , BUT the fact is, it was emphasis MUSTANG. Plus, I think that sports cars are an envy purchase and those who dont have them dislike them (and usually because they're either driving a Prius or a Subaru. )

No joke, I've been road raged, gotten nasty looks from people cause I drive this thing. So I agree with what you've said 100% about envy and all that. I'm barely 30 so people seeing a young dude driving a sports car would invoke a lot of envy.
 

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I never noticed him at all. I was distracted on the damn phone trying to schedule a reality agent to show a home lol. Oh. And the ticket says "radar" which is false. My r3 never detected anything. Nothing. Nada.
You were driving 105 mph and looking at your phone??? That's a self inflicted wound G. I wonder whats up with the radar??. I wonder if the R3 went to sleep on you?
 

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You were driving 105 mph and looking at your phone??? That's a self inflicted wound G. I wonder whats up with the radar??. I wonder if the R3 went to sleep on you?
Well no I was trying to call them lol. I have the windshield mount with waze but yeah totally my bad.
 

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I never noticed him at all. I was distracted on the damn phone trying to schedule a reality agent to show a home lol. Oh. And the ticket says "radar" which is false. My r3 never detected anything. Nothing. Nada.
With that car, your "spidey senses" have to be good. At night, I just don't speed unless I have a good rabbit. But, the one thing I always notice is someone that matches my speed at 90+. I immediately question if I just blew past an unmarked.

And you are getting off lucky. 100+ here and most prosecutors will bury you.
 

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