Mom said, "Go play in traffic with your RedLine EX"!

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  1. PHILBERT

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    Feeding my RD OCD habit, I spent some time yesterday playing in holiday shopping traffic with the RedLine EX. Looking for CAS BSM IVT input to re-evaluate the best setting options. Dangerous, I know (it was at times), but I figured the luxury vehicle "noise makers" would be out in full force. Took video in 2K to review the results. Unfortunately, the camera was in front of the detector, so no eye candy to offer here (sorry). Used the video for documentation and verbal notations.

    After using Mild Alert Tone the past couple of weeks, I started feeling like I was missing new alert information. In short, couldn't trust Mild Alert at 1 to 3 dings...and that's often all you get. Sometimes it re-alerted to a Ka threat on top of K noise, but I encountered a real K Band threat on top of K noise that didn't re-alert. No buano! What to do now? Needed to switch back to Standard Alert, keep the volume under tolerable control, and try to minimize CAS BSM pollution as much as possible. Went to a strip mall I never locked out before and played with volume and Auto Mute. Volume 2/3rds with Auto Mute High seemed to be enough volume and reduction. Locked out the doors once done with the test.

    Let's go find some CAS BSM noise! Highway Sensitivity with TRS off, and MRCD off. Sat next to the road facing traffic for 15 minutes. Lots of cars streaming by, and nothing. Real Ka went by, and as usual "Reported" never showed up on the Escort Live map! (same thing happened several other times that day) Turned on MRCD and waited 10 minutes. Nothing! Headed south to a more affluent area and almost immediately got MRCD falsed by strip mall door openers. Turned that back off and continued hunting. Finally! Came up on a Honda SUV that kept blasting me. Turned on TSR to see if it would reduce the alerts. NO, it didn't. Followed the Honda into a gas station to make sure it was the actual offender (it was). Turned off TSR again and went back north, just taking notes on grayed-out door sensors when I came up on a Pacifica spraying me with K Band alerts. Tried Auto Mode this time. Still getting hosed! So, I turned that back off and followed this guy when STORED appeared (without my intervention) and the alert was grayed-out. WTF? After a mile or so, the same Pacifica frequency alerted again. This time I MUTED the offender and waited to see if it would re-alert. After a half mile it "bliped" STORED again without me doing anything. No unmute before this happened, but apparently the EX thinks this was the 3rd time it observed this frequency in this area (probably was), and locked it out. I don't like that. K band is not that common here, true, but the lower budget departments DO use it. What if a real K alert is on one of those frequencies? I have to hope it is selective enough to lockout JUST that EXACT frequency, and not a group of frequencies near that frequency.

    So, I guess the moral of the story is IVT filtering on the RedLine EX is somewhat useful, as many known offenders seem to be filtered out, but a couple still get through. No tricks like Auto Sensitivity or TSR help, and MRCD may defeat IVT filtering altogether, as I tested that on a trip to Boston and back (OFF going up, ON coming back, three times the false hits with MRCD on). MUTE seems to be the only option. It did seem to quiet down the noise...until the stupid detector unwauntedly locked it out. Hopefully, when muted, you still will get NEW ALERTS on different K Band frequencies. I'm not sure about that. Ka probably, but I kind of doubt you will get another K Band alert while CAS BSM is muted. Does anyone know for sure???

    I guess this is about all you can do with this detector. Like it, or not, that is what I have to work with (for now) in my personal SUV. I have a trip from NY to FL and back coming up soon. MRCD will be enabled only where it is reported to be used, so I'll have to deal with the "extra noise" in those places. Lower volume and MUTE should help some.

    I do love to drive! But this RD OCD has me driving just to play! It's a sickness! :pervert:

    Phil
     
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    Yeah, Auto Learn can actually lock out BSMs. I've had it happen with my Max 360. But presumably it will also unlock them if you drive by the same spot without encountering one for (I think) 3 times. As for the lockout radius and frequency band, we need a sticky on this topic for all detectors. It gets asked a bunch and it would be nice to have a known place to refresh one's recollection rather than having to search for the information.
     
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    Addict ! Welcome to the club LOL.
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    Made me laugh!

    It's a sickness. I'm going out again today. Taking "the kitties" for a Florida Trip Training Mission. :kittyshifty:

    Yeah, sure...Just an excuse. :ohnocrying:

    @Brainstorm69 Good idea. If someone is considering purchasing one of these things, as many do, having a dedicated place to getting the info would be good.

    On another note, the "Auto-Unlock" feature has always had me wondering just how many times it takes to re-enable a frequency that was locked out. Is it really 3 times?

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    Sure wish there was an iOS version of escargot it looks very cool
     
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    Cyber Monday’s coming on fast.
    Black Friday Cheap Android The phone I ordered will be here Wednesday and I get back from SD Friday
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    Ya I have not ordered one yet, which one did you?
     
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    Took the easy way out.
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    Display: 5.0-inch, IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 1280 x 720 pixels (294 ppi)
    Platform: Android 8.0 Oreo
    Bluetooth: Yes, v4.2 with A2DP, LE
    Navigation: Yes, with A-GPS
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    Looks good man!
     
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    There you go. Looks pretty nice. Can you use it without activating it?

    I have an Android phone for work, so I might see about using that. Normally, I don't mix work phone business with personal stuff. I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue, but I always use my personal phone for personal stuff.

    Today was even better for CAS BS BSM hits. Drove behind a Genesis (?) that kept nailing me full alert on 24.160. Muted it, and then shortly after it went gray (didn't see "Stored"). Unlocked it, muted it, and the same thing happened. This happened over three times. At one point I had some blue X band hit at the same time that never unmuted. Kept unlocking and muting, and finally it stayed blue and muted for a few miles. Had a bunch of other Honda and Chrysler 24.160 and 24.198 full-blast hits and muted those too. Too much work.

    Also, I think my RedLine EX speaker is going bad. At 3/4 volume, it's somewhat thin and weak. Great! This detector could be capable if Escort gave it some much needed love. Not sure what to do about the speaker audio yet. Hopefully it makes it to FL and back.

    If they could only improve CAS BSM (and the speaker now too), it could be a cool detector. :3:

    Phil
     
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    Should be able to hot spot with iPhone.
    BT and GPS... Unlocking is an option if necessary. Spectrum just announced $14 / Gig.
    And someone mentioned a cheaper plan.
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    My EX is sitting in the dugout on injured reserve. Not coming back out unless everything else I own is eaten by sharks in a Sharknado. I do appreciate your patience to do what you can to get it working as well as possible. Too bad ER would not take your journal of events to help them improve. I am sure you are validating what they know, or what they stick their heads in the sand when brought up.
     
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    DrHow, Been a bit busy at work. Sorry...

    Yes, it is not good enough. Doubt ER will do anything. And I too hope to see some great 360 offering from Radenso.

    I was reading the other thread and It also looks like Laser Falsing is driving some people nuts. I get a few of those. If there is one thing ER needs to understand, it's that FALSING is not tolerable. They either have to fix it all...and quick, or lose business.

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    There it is. Great deal. Nice looking phone. I like Samsung stuff. Escargot Drive on the Samsung. I have a Kyocera Android phone for work, and I put TMG Defender on it a couple of days ago. So I think I will try ED on that.

    But you got a good deal on that phone.

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    benzr Been there done that !! Original V1 user !! Advanced User

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    Update J3 came in .... yay !!

    Thanks buddy for the link 50 bucks for that phone is awesome !!

    Have you found the root app for it yet
    I believe its Oreo 8.xxxx.

    Let me know Thanks !!

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    Don’t feel need for rooting. Put it in airplane mode and it stopped nagging me to activate .
    Found a company that says they can unlock it. Not planning to buy air time at this point.
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    Hate to tell ya the minute you put it on wifi

    YES mine is in airplane mode
    Guess what ??
    Now im getting Nagged to Update .. sigh
    WHY I want to root it !!!

    That and other reasons.

    Hey stupid ques ... Are you running Daze 3.721 ?? On it ??

    Think i got vers correct.

    If so what apps to load it ??

    Yeah its been awhile since i played Android "".

    Thanks in advance !!

    Back to Topic. ... They maaaay be able get the Redline EX usable"" to our RDF standards with Software Updates !! They have the needed hardware. Faster CPU etc etc.

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