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Hi,

In new to the rdforum and recently purchased a Uniden R1 and have some observations and questions. I haven't really had a chance to test the long range capabilities as there haven't been much state police around lately. However, I did get on the highway and was alerted to Ka band immediately. Cop was .75 miles away. I have some questions hopefully you can help me with.

1) Why do cops have their radar on when on the side of the road responding to a traffic accident? I find this odd.

2) I was alerted to K band today while passing two cops at an accident scene. However, I was only alerted to it when I was maybe 50ft away. This scenario has happened a couple of times. It makes me wonder what would happen if the officer was on the side of the road looking for speeders instead. Maybe the radar isn't operating at full strength while helping during at accident scene? I was in city mode...K filter and TSR on.
 

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Hi Pacattack81,

Leo's often leave their radars on all the time while driving around and doing things even when they aren't enforcing traffic, Lots of the ones near me leave their units running while they are getting gas, lunch, or even commuting home after work.... if they are in the middle of a traffic stop they may have just left it on after pulling someone over or sometimes they might intentionally leave it on to slow down anyone coming up to the scene that has a RD. Since many radar units are installed these days there is not need to hold them in the hand or push buttons so they can just leave them blasting away...

As far as the short alerts, also look around the accident scene area, any storefronts nearby with automatic door openers? that can cause a false thats really weak... or if there is a vehicle involved that has a BSM system that can do it as well. also take note of the frequencies involved, certain frequencies are more common for real Kband 24.125 or there abouts is common for one of the K band radar units thats pretty popular, not to say they don't drift a bit but it can help you figure it out. Do be warned in City mode your Kband range wont be great, i typically find it's about 0.5 -0.75 miles in that configuration. if you are on the highway or if you are speeding around town you should bump it up to highway or advanced at say 50-60% to get enough range for a save if they use Kband in your area.
 

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Hi Pacattack81,

Leo's often leave their radars on all the time while driving around and doing things even when they aren't enforcing traffic, Lots of the ones near me leave their units running while they are getting gas, lunch, or even commuting home after work.... if they are in the middle of a traffic stop they may have just left it on after pulling someone over or sometimes they might intentionally leave it on to slow down anyone coming up to the scene that has a RD. Since many radar units are installed these days there is not need to hold them in the hand or push buttons so they can just leave them blasting away...

As far as the short alerts, also look around the accident scene area, any storefronts nearby with automatic door openers? that can cause a false thats really weak... or if there is a vehicle involved that has a BSM system that can do it as well. also take note of the frequencies involved, certain frequencies are more common for real Kband 24.125 or there abouts is common for one of the K band radar units thats pretty popular, not to say they don't drift a bit but it can help you figure it out. Do be warned in City mode your Kband range wont be great, i typically find it's about 0.5 -0.75 miles in that configuration. if you are on the highway or if you are speeding around town you should bump it up to highway or advanced at say 50-60% to get enough range for a save if they use Kband in your area.
Thanks. I'll try running in highway made. Not sure it's worth it with all the falses on K band though. One thing to note, I get a little further detection on the K band speed signs so I find it strange it only picked up the LEO when I was right on them.
 

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Chances are it wasn't the actual Leo running radar then as their guns are more powerful than a speed sign in most cases. Its also possible they were shooting the signal perpendicular to you as well... if the radar antenna was firing at a 90 degree angle to your direction of travel then the range would be significantly reduced, couple that with city mode and TSF on that might do it. when their antenna is 90 degrees to you they can't get your speed due to very high cosign error, they will read basically 0. it's only a threat if they are at least somewhat on axis.

if highway mode is giving to many falses then try advanced mode, you can adjust the sensitivity on each band separately in 10% increments. Highway =100% city is about 15-18% so you could use advanced mode to find a good balance of range and false filtering :)
 

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Chances are it wasn't the actual Leo running radar then as their guns are more powerful than a speed sign in most cases. Its also possible they were shooting the signal perpendicular to you as well... if the radar antenna was firing at a 90 degree angle to your direction of travel then the range would be significantly reduced, couple that with city mode and TSF on that might do it. when their antenna is 90 degrees to you they can't get your speed due to very high cosign error, they will read basically 0. it's only a threat if they are at least somewhat on axis.

if highway mode is giving to many falses then try advanced mode, you can adjust the sensitivity on each band separately in 10% increments. Highway =100% city is about 15-18% so you could use advanced mode to find a good balance of range and false filtering :)
Today I got my 2nd real Ka alert on the highway. It was definitely in plenty of time...Waze and the detector was going off so it was a bit nuts. It look like the officer just pulled someone over. I don't think it was long since there was nothing on Waze until right when it all went down. Do you know why the state trooper would keep his radar on while he's pulled over in the middle of a traffic stop? The signal was full bars as I got close. Why doesn't he turn it off when he has someone?

Also I get a false Ka alert in the same place on the highway. It scares the daylights out of me Everytime lol. I thought Ka doesn't really false.
 

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usually they don't bother to hit the off button... and you never know perhaps right as he's finishing another clueless person will blow past and he can just go grab them. anything near that spot where you get the "false" (cross street, overpass, building, electronic signage) and what frequency is it? they do make KA band speed signs, and some KA band traffic drones.... so could be that
 

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usually they don't bother to hit the off button... and you never know perhaps right as he's finishing another clueless person will blow past and he can just go grab them. anything near that spot where you get the "false" (cross street, overpass, building, electronic signage) and what frequency is it? they do make KA band speed signs, and some KA band traffic drones.... so could be that
I wonder if he got him with instant on or not. I'd like to experience picking up instant on. In time I guess. It doesn't look like there's anything around. No patrol cars. I should have bought an R3 instead so I could lockout certain falses and quiet ride seems nice if you're in traffic so you don't keep getting false K band alerts.

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usually they don't bother to hit the off button... and you never know perhaps right as he's finishing another clueless person will blow past and he can just go grab them. anything near that spot where you get the "false" (cross street, overpass, building, electronic signage) and what frequency is it? they do make KA band speed signs, and some KA band traffic drones.... so could be that
I got another Ka alert today that was real because I saw the officer had someone pulled over, but it was only from a distance of about .2 miles. Even as I drove past it only stayed on for another .2 miles. I understand there's many factors in regards to range, but I thought it was strange because the other Ka alert gave me a lot more distance. What are your thoughts?
 

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Be careful what you wish for @pacattack81. If you are really hauling and get hit by instant on radar at close range you are getting a ticket. There is slim/no chance of slowing down enough before your speed is registered. With your R1 range and sensitivity are enough to alert to KA at great distance provided conditions and terrain are favorable. If there are trees, foliage, heavy traffic, hills, and curves, detection range will be negatively impacted.
Stay safe.
 

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Be careful what you wish for @pacattack81. If you are really hauling and get hit by instant on radar at close range you are getting a ticket. There is slim/no chance of slowing down enough before your speed is registered. With your R1 range and sensitivity are enough to alert to KA at great distance provided conditions and terrain are favorable. If there are trees, foliage, heavy traffic, hills, and curves, detection range will be negatively impacted.
Stay safe.
Sorry, what I meant was wanting to experience was an instant on alert from a car way down the road in front of me so I'd have enough time to show down. Then I'd feel like I won the lotto lol.
 

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Has anyone seen vans on the highway that say "Inform"? The Uniden picks them up on Ka band? Are they photo radar? I thought that doesn't come up on radar. I'm curious what they are? Can anyone shed some light on these vans?
 

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Has anyone seen vans on the highway that say "Inform"? The Uniden picks them up on Ka band? Are they photo radar? I thought that doesn't come up on radar. I'm curious what they are? Can anyone shed some light on these vans?
Where are you located? There are van's in Canada I know, but i'm not certain of their use in the U.S.

I also don't know if you have updated firmware and checked things like segmentation for your area, that can help a lot with false hits.
 

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Has anyone seen vans on the highway that say "Inform"? The Uniden picks them up on Ka band? Are they photo radar? I thought that doesn't come up on radar. I'm curious what they are? Can anyone shed some light on these vans?
All the mobile speedcams I've seen set up are unmarked and usually white in color. Here in MD, I've only seen Jeeps and Explorers used.
 

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So I picked up my R7 from BB yesterday and took it on a 200 mile trip from Eastern L.I. to NJ and back. Hit most of the major roads. L.I.E, NSP, SSP, Cross Island, Belt, 278, 287 etc.. I used Vortex's settings after factory resetting ->firmware update--->reset again.

First a little background. I've been using detectors since the original Escort with the meter. Mostly Escort, various different BEL including one ancient "hand calibrated" unit way back when, and a Uniden RD9 as well as an RX65 was my last BEL model... When I bought my first V1 I stuck with it and only upgraded (traded in actually) for the Junk Fighter unit. I'm one level down in firmware on V1 so I need to segment bands using JBV1. So while I am a long time user, I am NOT a tweaker, enthusiast by any stretch of the imagination. I mostly set it and forget.
My current detector is a V1 with JBV1 on a toss away Samsung phone.

So, my reason for trying the R7 is mostly ergonomics. My corporate phone is an iPhone so I need to carry 2 phones with me to get the most out of the V1. Cords everywhere and a royal PITA. I wanted to consolidate to the iPhone and the R7.
I drive a Mustang Vert and the V1 fits perfectly above the mirror using those clear Scotch block type ezPass velcro pads. It's a perfect fit and powered from a homebrew connector tapping off the mirror lights.

So, on to the R7.

First impressions. This thing is big. Really thick in fact. It seems to weigh about the same as the V1 but does not feel as solid as it's plastic. very high quality plastic though. I have no real complaints here.

First attempt at mounting it was to use the Scotch velcro blocks glued to the little windshield mount and then stuck to the cowl trim piece above the mirror where the V1 lives. In theory it seemed like it would work. It didn't. I had 2 problems. First the thickness made me have to adjust the mirror too low in order to generate space. That one I could live with. The second problem was that with the little bracket Velcro to the cowl above the mirror, there was way too much vibration and since the surface area on the clip is small it was unstable... So long story short after screwing around I gave up and used the single suction cup to mount in the left lower corner of the dash by the registration sticker. This was actually pretty solid and that single cup mount is incredibly sticky. This worked well. If I keep the unit, Blendmount or similar is in my future I think.

So what are my initial impressions of the unit?
In no particular order:

Hate the location of the buttons
Love the menus. Very clear and easy to use.
Documentation is very good as well.
Sound is loud enough for me. Didn't test with top down though.
Display is very nice looking.
Driving by my usual suspects of malls, construction signs etc it was really no more or less chatty than my V1 with JBV1 and the "Balanced Settings" sweeps from this site.
I had a couple of LEO Ka bands and the Uniden picked them up way before I was anywhere near the LEO.
I noticed some odd K band activity, I'm assuming punching through but I don't know for sure. Mostly seemed to be coming from behind.

So what's the bottom line for me?
First, I need some more time with the R7. No question about that.

Honestly, I'm not seeing any real world difference between my V1 with JBV1 and the R7 other than the mounting issue in my particular car.

Is it a great detector?
Sure is.
If you are running a 2nd tier detector and thinking of upgrading, just do it.
You WILL notice the difference.

Is it worth $600.00 for someone with a current V1 running JBV1?
I'm struggling with this one.
Right now I'm 60/40 for returning it however I have some driving to do this weekend so I might change my mind.

I'll report back either way.
Thanks for a great forum!

Happy detecting!
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Hi,

In new to the rdforum and recently purchased a Uniden R1 and have some observations and questions. I haven't really had a chance to test the long range capabilities as there haven't been much state police around lately. However, I did get on the highway and was alerted to Ka band immediately. Cop was .75 miles away. I have some questions hopefully you can help me with.

1) Why do cops have their radar on when on the side of the road responding to a traffic accident? I find this odd.

2) I was alerted to K band today while passing two cops at an accident scene. However, I was only alerted to it when I was maybe 50ft away. This scenario has happened a couple of times. It makes me wonder what would happen if the officer was on the side of the road looking for speeders instead. Maybe the radar isn't operating at full strength while helping during at accident scene? I was in city mode...K filter and TSR on.

1) Sometimes they just leave it on. Kinda like you would leave your stereo or cb radio on. It happens, no biggie.

2)I doubt that was real police radar. Probably a BSM or automatic door false. Or maybe the officer left a hand held K band radar gun on laying on the seat or floorboard. Who knows really. Don't get too worked up about it, stuff like this happens to all of us with detectors.
 

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