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Have had this unit for about two and a half months now and have appreciated how quiet it is, as well as the utility of the arrows. Installed it with a Blendmount solution and wired it to the power supplied to the mirror so that was awesome too. Like others, was concerned about the potential for a loud lock up, but was most concerned about it have the silent lockup. As such, I purchased a Pocket Radar and would test it every so often when it seemed TOO quiet.

All was well until yesterday. Had a reflector on the windshield to keep the sun out of the car and when I got back after work noticed that there was a moderate amount of condensation on the windshield. Turned on the defrost, and as I was driving away noticed the first of two error messages that both went away on their own: CHECK FR. As I got closer to home and it was radio silence, I checked with the pocket radar and NADA. So sounds like one of those silent lockups. Great.

Got home, and following morning I checked again as I was leaving to work. Initially I got nothing, but then it went off alerting to the K signal and I had it lock up- despite the fact that I was no longer activating the button on the Pocket Radar. Cycled the unit on/off by pressing the power switch silenced the alert, but when I tried the Pocket Radar again, same thing. Including video of the second loud lockup. I had to unplug the power cord to the detector, and then it would detect the Pocket Radar without locking up. Believe, though I'm not certain, that it wasn't fully connected to Escort Live. I try to run with EL active, though occasionally it loses connection to my iPhone. It seems like I wasn't getting the signal this time.

I've actually enjoyed this detector but now have significant concerns about it. Any thoughts from anyone on the forum? I'm assuming I'll have to go to the escort forum and post about this so they can give the standard "mail it in and we'll repair it" advice?
 

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My 360 has been idle while I’m traveling with R3 so I haven’t noticed any anomalies. But you caught my eye when you mentioned the pocket radar
Remember others mentioning it and forgot to follow up. (Someone on the forum was tinkering with building a tester a while ago too)
I assume this is the device you are referring to:
www.pocketradar.com: Traffic
And I will mention that I was playing with my range finder
https://www.google.com/search?q=nikon forestry pro rangefinder and it does consistently set off the 360’s laser alert. Posts to EL also LOL.
In fact, I’m going to see if the R3 is fooled by it now.
My first thought was the parking sensor folks might be able to use the Nikon as a testing device. (They would probably have FW adjusted to recognize its laser or it would be ignored)
Update: The R3 is either smart enough to ignore the Nikon or blind LOL.
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That Pocket Radar is the one. It usually sets the GT360 off. Do aim it out a side or rear window so it bounces back to and not directly at the radar to minimize (hopefully) overdriving the RD.

Had another instance this morning. Connected to EL. Same location as one of prior lockups noted above. It picked up what I believe is legit Ka band signal, then stopped. Noticed that the EL PSL number was no longer showing. Tried the Pocket Radar and got instant response- usually it’s delayed a bit. And then it locked up. Had to unplug and replug back in.

Had high hopes for this RD, now have major trust issues with it.
 

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Connected to EL.
Same location as one of prior lockups noted above.
It picked up what I believe is legit Ka band signal, then stopped.
Noticed that the EL PSL number was no longer showing
Picked apart what you wrote for a reason.
Ecort said the reason they were / are having a problem fixing the problem is it’s not repeatable.
You have a spot that causes the lockup every time you drive past it?
The spot has a constant Ka signal or a K / X signal is being mid-interpreted or misrepresented. (?) Do you have another detector you can run past that point or know someone with a Gt360 or other Ecort device?
If you can pass this place anytime and get a lockup, Ecort will want the co-ordinates
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Couple of things. The first silent lockup didn’t happen in that spot. Second, that Ka signal isn’t always there. And third, the times I got it to repeatedly lock up was with the K band signal from the Pocket Radar. Finally, it would continue to lock up until I pulled the power plug- turning the device on and off with the button worked to restart the RD and silence the non-silent lockup. But it would return if I used the Pocket Radar again. Only when I pulled the plug would I then be able to use the Pocket Radar without locking it up again. At least that was the experience I remember. Would like to do more controlled testing if I can.
 

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My 360 has been idle while I’m traveling with R3 so I haven’t noticed any anomalies. But you caught my eye when you mentioned the pocket radar
Remember others mentioning it and forgot to follow up. (Someone on the forum was tinkering with building a tester a while ago too)
I assume this is the device you are referring to:
www.pocketradar.com: Traffic
And I will mention that I was playing with my range finder
https://www.google.com/search?q=nikon forestry pro rangefinder and it does consistently set off the 360’s laser alert. Posts to EL also LOL.
In fact, I’m going to see if the R3 is fooled by it now.
My first thought was the parking sensor folks might be able to use the Nikon as a testing device. (They would probably have FW adjusted to recognize its laser or it would be ignored)
Update: The R3 is either smart enough to ignore the Nikon or blind LOL.
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I've found that Unidens seem to be programmed to ignore unknown pulse rates. On my laser tester, the only thing that does not set off my Uniden detectors is the "Unknown" button. All my Escort and Beltronics units, on the other hand, will alert to that button.
 

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I still have not had a lockup of my GT-360 since mid August. I run it mostly with EL on longer drives and off on short trips. I have no pocket radar to trigger it. I wonder if that is part of the equation? I remember seeing Vortex lock his GT-360 while he was using a radar source for demo purposes.
 

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What bothers me is if you don’t have a testing device, how do you know it’s locked up? I’ve had a number of times it doesn’t display the speed limit but the scan bar is still rolling.
Do you use the scan bar ?
And is it still moving during a lockup?
When I asked Vortex, he said I don’t know, don’t use scan bar.
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I stopped using the scan bar a while back as there was another post documenting continued scan bar activity even with the silent lockup. Others have described the speed continues to be updated, so not unexpected that scan bar would keep running.

Agree with you Up All Night that one needs a test device with this RD. As annoying as the loud lockups are, what really bother me are the silent ones. Trust in the RD has to be there.
 

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I stopped using the scan bar a while back as there was another post documenting continued scan bar activity even with the silent lockup. Others have described the speed continues to be updated, so not unexpected that scan bar would keep running.

Agree with you Up All Night that one needs a test device with this RD. As annoying as the loud lockups are, what really bother me are the silent ones. Trust in the RD has to be there.
Yup, a lockup while it's alerting is just annoying. A silent lockup could be deadly.
 

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Another two lockups. One of each. Testing with pocket radar yesterday set it off and wouldn’t stop. EL was on, was near initial site of prior loud lockup. Could mute the detector, but it wouldn’t stop until I pulled the power. Second was tonight, tried testing it with EL connected in same spot. This time it didn't recognize pocket radar at all. Kept trying, no dice. Got home and tried again, no luck. Unplugged and hit it with pocket radar, and it worked again.

Can't trust this RD.
 
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Another two lockup’s. One of each. Testing with pocket radar yesterday set it off and wouldn’t stop. EL was on, was near initial site of prior loud lockup. Could mute the detector, but it wouldn’t stop until I pulled the power. Second was tonight, tried testing it with EL connected in same spot. This time it didn't recognize pocket Radar at all. Kept trying, no dice. Got home and tried again, no luck. Unplugged and rescheduled, and it worked again.

Can't trust this RD.
Sorry to hear that. They need to get a fix out for Beltronics detectors.
 

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Absolutely.

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Had another loud lockup last weekend. Different spot than before. Interestingly though, this time I let it go for about 30 sec wherein the display stayed constant as did the sound and then I pressed Mute. This time I got a signal that said something like GPS lost or No GPS. Wonder if loss of GPS connectivity has something to do with the lockups?!? If so, then I wonder if mounting location was a factor, as I use a blendmount adapter putting RD high up and GPS acquisition takes a few min normally for the unit.
 
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Had another loud lockup last weekend. Different spot than before. Interestingly though, this time I let it go for about 30 sec wherein the display stayed constant as did the sound and then I pressed Mute. This time I got a signal that said something like GPS lost or No GPS. Wonder if loss of GPS connectivity has something to do with the lockups?!? If so, then I wonder if mounting location was a factor, as I use a blendmount adapter putting RD high up and GPS acquisition takes a few min normally for the unit.
Interesting data point. I'd report this over on ERF, it may help them replicate the problem: Another Escort mac 360c locked up. - Escort Radar Forum
 

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