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You are SOL buddy! Sorry!
 

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@Transporter, Please read up on jammer use before going out into the wild! Look up the terms JTK (GOOD) and JTG (NEVER). you want to disable jamming ASAP! Having a timer do it for you is to be a worse case backup! A jammer IS NOT "A YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING" CM!

BTW, ALP has a customizable timer to auto disable jamming as well. Read up. Most seasoned users pride themselves on JTK ASAP!
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I beg to differ with your incorrect and inaccurate statements that over simplify what I am saying. I KNOW all the terms! And that is EXACTLY the idea behind TMG, not having to do anything other then basically what one does with a radar detector, slow down to PSL when the TMG A-15 alerts! I NEVER said it was a passive counter measure, I said it does it’s job automatically IE it is programmed to handle the entire encounter so the driver can focus on slowing to PSL and paying attention to driving conditions.

The TMG does NOT JTG plus it auto JTK! It is perfect for both the beginner and experienced jammer user. The driver only needs to react to the TMG Lidar alert by slowing down to PSL while only needing to pay attention to their driving. No need to grab or press any control panel to shut down jamming (JTK).

Yes I don’t currently have a Lidar jammer but I do know and understand the TMG both using it and what it does. Plus I ran active counter measures for radar for over 10 years until Ka Band became wide spread. The setup would be considered very similar to TMG because it also auto JTK after 6 seconds.
 

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Having a timer do it for you is to be a worse case backup!
Agree 100 %.

I experienced shooting distance @ 700' , even down to 350' in school zone.
Relying on the auto 4 secs is suicidal + a good incentive to bring the ban
hammer.

2 choices to counter this short coming :

A) have the control box very close / convenient to power off.

B) if concealing the cpu is a priority , one needs a kill switch to power off ,
be it wired or by rf.

The problem i see is for the amateurs / non-rdf users / who want protection
without realising the consequences...'' i bought it because i dont want tickets ,
i have no interest in the how it is done...''

In a sarcastic wording : should this technology be reserved to the Elite ?
 

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TMG does offer full time jamming, that is the "test mode" feature. Use at your own will, and use in a timely manner. The CPU will remember your last setting at every power start up.
 

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I of course agree that you want to slow down and JTK ASAP. Also, if you have warning of a trap ahead, you should probably slow down and kill them before getting hit at all. The 4 sec Autokill was included to protect those of us that understand the above from the rest who don't. It's only a backup but at the same time is far more responsible than what Escort is doing.

That being said I'm pretty sure you can JTK from the phone app as well as the control box and as @Eloi said, you could wire a kill switch easily enough.
 
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I beg to differ with your incorrect and inaccurate statements that over simplify what I am saying. I KNOW all the terms! And that is EXACTLY the idea behind TMG, not having to do anything other then basically what one does with a radar detector, slow down to PSL when the TMG A-15 alerts! I NEVER said it was a passive counter measure, I said it does it’s job automatically IE it is programmed to handle the entire encounter so the driver can focus on slowing to PSL and paying attention to driving conditions.

The TMG does NOT JTG plus it auto JTK! It is perfect for both the beginner and experienced jammer user. The driver only needs to react to the TMG Lidar alert by slowing down to PSL while only needing to pay attention to their driving. No need to grab or press any control panel to shut down jamming (JTK).

Yes I don’t currently have a Lidar jammer but I do know and understand the TMG both using it and what it does. Plus I ran active counter measures for radar for over 10 years until Ka Band became wide spread. The setup would be considered very similar to TMG because it also auto JTK after 6 seconds.
www.rdforum.org: Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum » Jam To Kill (JTK)

FYI, in some cases, 4 sec you will have JTG and PASSED the LEO. THERE is a need to JTK, and that is what every responsible user should strive for.

Again, auto timeout is NOT SOMETHING NEW, ALP has a customized time out for disabling the LID (laser interference defense) time from 1 - 9 seconds or unlimited. Some users set to 3 or 4 and STILL manually JTK. When you manually disable the defense once at a reasonable speed so that a speed can be acquired on your vehicle THAT is known as JTK. Letting a system that does not know where the LEO is, or the speed limit or how fast you are going can not JTK, it just stops defending after a preset time.
There are MANY REAL LIFE encounter videos here where users drop anchor and JTK in under 2 seconds! When using lidar, you get a feel for acquisition times for various cars, and 4 seconds is a long time....

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That being said I'm pretty sure you can JTK from the phone app as well as the control box and as @Eloi said, you could wire a kill switch easily enough.
From what I have read, I believe that both are possible.
 

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I realize we've strayed from the topic a bit;
I plan to handle encounters like this:

1) Get used to the receive only button and/or kill switch and practice. Even practice during radar encounters or just visual encounters. Develope the muscle memory. I don't yet run into lidar very often at all.
2) Test and adjust aim if necessary.
3) When approaching what is expected to be a real lidar encounter, I would like to make sure I'm at PSL and in receive only mode.
4) When that day comes where I actually encounter a legitimate lidar signal, I hope to be smooth and ready to JTK only. I never want to let 4 seconds pass.

Anyone have other thoughts or tips?
 

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So everything I have read in TMG testing was summarized....if you want more info go into higher level talk....well umm if I am to spend $500+ I want to wait for my higher level talk before I upgrade the system since if it's not up to the the new champion which can be had for a bit more than umm what are my pros and cons? I know I am moving into an area that MIGHT not receive the dragon but than again...will they not?! I do't know I am a type of a person that does in depth research on tech before I splurge...I mean after all that's why I joined this community?! ;)


However, until/IF I ever get an account upgrade what are the current pros and cons between TMG and ALP? Sure bluetooth and all that lingo...but what if my wife doesn't pair her phone and she doesn't need bluetooth then what else...yes GPS...but do you have to have the box exposed to see the sats thus you can't have it hidden in a nice place that no one else will notice?! I mean there is a difference between a 3cm by 3cm GPS token vs a XX cm vs XX cm box.
if you have more question, you can pm jag
 

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Anyone have other thoughts or tips?
Practice makes perfect! Sounds like you have a good plan mapped out.

Remember, it is important not to JTG, but more important not to JTK too early and end up with a ticket!
 

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I of course agree that you want to slow down and JTK ASAP. Also, if you have warning of a trap ahead, you should probably slow down and kill them before getting hit at all. The 4 sec Autokill was included to protect those of us that understand the above from the rest who don't. It's only a backup but at the same time is far more responsible than what Escort is doing.

That being said I'm pretty sure you can JTK from the phone app as well as the control box and as @Eloi said, you could wire a kill switch easily enough.
I would never ever trust a non wired deadman switch...i.e...control app that has to comm over 2.4ghz frequency while driving in a city etc. Every step between the time you press the screen (partially wake the phone from standby...even when screen is on) to the time the phone registers your finger, to it sending the signal over BT and until the BT module confirms the integrity of the packet and initiates JTK takes precious miliseconds. Especially if you have an older phone with lower version of BT that still has some latency to it. that's why I love wires...I will hold off for as long as I can before I purchase BT headphones since I love my wired high quality headphones, no interference and I will not use my BT functionality of my phone for anything that is time sensitive...sure I can use it to swap profiles between parking and defense since that doesn't require any time sensitive measure (i.e. I am normally parked when I do that).

God forbid if your app crashes while you are driving or if someone calls you and takes priority over the screen. I am old fashioned and I prefer dedicated wired kill switches.

--- DOUBLEPOST MERGED ---

I realize we've strayed from the topic a bit;
I plan to handle encounters like this:

1) Get used to the receive only button and/or kill switch and practice. Even practice during radar encounters or just visual encounters. Develope the muscle memory. I don't yet run into lidar very often at all.
2) Test and adjust aim if necessary.
3) When approaching what is expected to be a real lidar encounter, I would like to make sure I'm at PSL and in receive only mode.
4) When that day comes where I actually encounter a legitimate lidar signal, I hope to be smooth and ready to JTK only. I never want to let 4 seconds pass.

Anyone have other thoughts or tips?
I set my ALP for 3 seconds (Min) since just in case I am busy doing something else like avoiding people slamming on their breaks then I want to make sure that there is a minimal amount of jamming w/o my interaction.
 

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the ole knife switch=that'll kill lightning :O)
 

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