I am waiting for an account upgrade before I purchase TMG

Discussion in 'General Laser Jammer Discussion' started by tempnexus, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. 87GN

    87GN TXCTG Rollin' Steel Wheels============ Advanced User Acceptus Premium Member

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    You are SOL buddy! Sorry!
     
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    I beg to differ with your incorrect and inaccurate statements that over simplify what I am saying. I KNOW all the terms! And that is EXACTLY the idea behind TMG, not having to do anything other then basically what one does with a radar detector, slow down to PSL when the TMG A-15 alerts! I NEVER said it was a passive counter measure, I said it does it’s job automatically IE it is programmed to handle the entire encounter so the driver can focus on slowing to PSL and paying attention to driving conditions.

    The TMG does NOT JTG plus it auto JTK! It is perfect for both the beginner and experienced jammer user. The driver only needs to react to the TMG Lidar alert by slowing down to PSL while only needing to pay attention to their driving. No need to grab or press any control panel to shut down jamming (JTK).

    Yes I don’t currently have a Lidar jammer but I do know and understand the TMG both using it and what it does. Plus I ran active counter measures for radar for over 10 years until Ka Band became wide spread. The setup would be considered very similar to TMG because it also auto JTK after 6 seconds.
     
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    Agree 100 %.

    I experienced shooting distance @ 700' , even down to 350' in school zone.
    Relying on the auto 4 secs is suicidal + a good incentive to bring the ban
    hammer.

    2 choices to counter this short coming :

    A) have the control box very close / convenient to power off.

    B) if concealing the cpu is a priority , one needs a kill switch to power off ,
    be it wired or by rf.

    The problem i see is for the amateurs / non-rdf users / who want protection
    without realising the consequences...'' i bought it because i dont want tickets ,
    i have no interest in the how it is done...''

    In a sarcastic wording : should this technology be reserved to the Elite ?
     
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  4. Jag42

    Jag42 TXCTG RD tester /US exclusive TMG dealer. Advanced User MFG/Vendor Premium Member

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    TMG does offer full time jamming, that is the "test mode" feature. Use at your own will, and use in a timely manner. The CPU will remember your last setting at every power start up.
     
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  5. OBeerWANKenobi

    OBeerWANKenobi This is not the car you're looking for..... Advanced User

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    I of course agree that you want to slow down and JTK ASAP. Also, if you have warning of a trap ahead, you should probably slow down and kill them before getting hit at all. The 4 sec Autokill was included to protect those of us that understand the above from the rest who don't. It's only a backup but at the same time is far more responsible than what Escort is doing.

    That being said I'm pretty sure you can JTK from the phone app as well as the control box and as @Eloi said, you could wire a kill switch easily enough.
     
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  6. thanks

    thanks for all the fish Advanced User Acceptus Premium Member

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    www.rdforum.org: Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum » Jam To Kill (JTK)

    FYI, in some cases, 4 sec you will have JTG and PASSED the LEO. THERE is a need to JTK, and that is what every responsible user should strive for.

    Again, auto timeout is NOT SOMETHING NEW, ALP has a customized time out for disabling the LID (laser interference defense) time from 1 - 9 seconds or unlimited. Some users set to 3 or 4 and STILL manually JTK. When you manually disable the defense once at a reasonable speed so that a speed can be acquired on your vehicle THAT is known as JTK. Letting a system that does not know where the LEO is, or the speed limit or how fast you are going can not JTK, it just stops defending after a preset time.
    There are MANY REAL LIFE encounter videos here where users drop anchor and JTK in under 2 seconds! When using lidar, you get a feel for acquisition times for various cars, and 4 seconds is a long time....
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    From what I have read, I believe that both are possible.
     
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    I realize we've strayed from the topic a bit;
    I plan to handle encounters like this:

    1) Get used to the receive only button and/or kill switch and practice. Even practice during radar encounters or just visual encounters. Develope the muscle memory. I don't yet run into lidar very often at all.
    2) Test and adjust aim if necessary.
    3) When approaching what is expected to be a real lidar encounter, I would like to make sure I'm at PSL and in receive only mode.
    4) When that day comes where I actually encounter a legitimate lidar signal, I hope to be smooth and ready to JTK only. I never want to let 4 seconds pass.

    Anyone have other thoughts or tips?
     
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    Bossdad71 Premium Member Advanced User MFG/Vendor Premium Member

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    if you have more question, you can pm jag
     
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    Practice makes perfect! Sounds like you have a good plan mapped out.

    Remember, it is important not to JTG, but more important not to JTK too early and end up with a ticket!
     
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    I would never ever trust a non wired deadman switch...i.e...control app that has to comm over 2.4ghz frequency while driving in a city etc. Every step between the time you press the screen (partially wake the phone from standby...even when screen is on) to the time the phone registers your finger, to it sending the signal over BT and until the BT module confirms the integrity of the packet and initiates JTK takes precious miliseconds. Especially if you have an older phone with lower version of BT that still has some latency to it. that's why I love wires...I will hold off for as long as I can before I purchase BT headphones since I love my wired high quality headphones, no interference and I will not use my BT functionality of my phone for anything that is time sensitive...sure I can use it to swap profiles between parking and defense since that doesn't require any time sensitive measure (i.e. I am normally parked when I do that).

    God forbid if your app crashes while you are driving or if someone calls you and takes priority over the screen. I am old fashioned and I prefer dedicated wired kill switches.
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    I set my ALP for 3 seconds (Min) since just in case I am busy doing something else like avoiding people slamming on their breaks then I want to make sure that there is a minimal amount of jamming w/o my interaction.
     
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  11. Eloi

    Eloi Premium Member Advanced User Premium Member

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    When i read this , that is the image that pops my mind :leghump:

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    the ole knife switch=that'll kill lightning :O)
     
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