I got pulled over.....why?

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Gang,

This one was odd. I'm driving through a suburb of Philadelphia, two lane road and I'm keeping pace with cars in front of me. Out of nowhere, a local LEO pulls me over. I was polite, handed him license and registration and asked for his permission to go into the glove box as that's where the insurance card was. He says, "go ahead". He takes my info, comes back two minutes later and gives me a warning for speeding in a 15mph school zone. WTF? The warning has no written speed, my R3 never went off, he never said what he clocked met at etc. I'm not gong to look a gift horse in the mouth but my guess is that he saw NJ plates in PA and thought he had an easy mark. Any feedback? Thanks.
 

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You said local pd. I don't think locals can use radar. He must have used his superb eagle eyes he developed in the training academy and got a visual estimation of your speed or vascar/enradd. Do you have dash cam footage of the pullover and before?
 

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You are right @omgboost locals cant so it had to be some kind of Vassar. It seems like he might have not been real sure of his stop. I dont know of many locals that give breaks since it goes into their city fund. Anyway weird how he singled you out of a group of cars.
 

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I'd guess he either clocked you (as in stop watch) or he did a visual estimate of your speed. The fact there was no mention of your speed makes me think it was visual estimate. You looked like you were speeding to him and he gave you a warning, for which he likely still gets a stat.
 
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Maybe your car make and color was involved in something a few minutes earlier in the area and he wanted to take a closer look at you as a possible involved suspect. You know school zones here are 15 mph also, but only enforceable during school hours and the signs have flashing yellow lights that are activated during those times.

What time did this occur? Was it during school hours before or shortly after school students are dismissed?
 

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You are right @omgboost locals cant so it had to be some kind of Vassar. It seems like he might have not been real sure of his stop. I dont know of many locals that give breaks since it goes into their city fund. Anyway weird how he singled you out of a group of cars.
You aren’t porking somebody’s old lady who is married to LEO are you?
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So far only State Police Radar can use radar. Lots of painted lines and reference points for clocking. Unless things have changed in PA the bulk of the moving violation fine goes to the state. PA also has all sorts of programs to be paid for that they line item add to the fine.

What jurisdiction were you in?
 

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Lots of problems in 2018 with the Philadelphia police pulling over vehicles without reasonable suspicion or probable cause
Just flat making things up actually
You can catch a few youtube videos on it
Its way out there
 

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My nephews call it a CYA Warning. They say there is a higher number of NJ drivers driving without any Insurance so they need a reason to pull people over then check for current insurance. They have to justify pulling you over to then have a reason the check for valid tag sticker and proof of insurance. No expired insurance, no real proof of speeding, the warning covers the LEOs butt, and he gets to turn the warning in to show he is trying to produce revenue.
 

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My nephews call it a CYA Warning. They say there is a higher number of NJ drivers driving without any Insurance so they need a reason to pull people over then check for current insurance. They have to justify pulling you over <...>
Probable cause.

If the LEO is running your license, registration, and insurance check from his MDT...this happens in minutes from the comfort of his patrol vehicle. At least, this is how it happens in AZ. According to family members, complete insurance info shows up on their screen as part of the validation of current registration.
 

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Probable cause.

If the LEO is running your license, registration, and insurance check from his MDT...this happens in minutes from the comfort of his patrol vehicle. At least, this is how it happens in AZ. According to family members, complete insurance info shows up on their screen as part of the validation of current registration.
In AZ they will confiscate your tag on the spot.
 

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They can check everything from their car but will take your license to check for outstanding warrants. I've been paced and pulled over twice the last two years both warnings both run my license to make sure I was "clean." Also, I have heard their matching programs from the onboard laptop isn't accurate and some LEO's never use it .
 

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In AZ they will confiscate your tag on the spot.
My statement is still accurate, and was predicated on the OP's initial query in this thread:
fishing66 said:
Any feedback?
It's obvious the OP was on the up-and-up in his particular case, since it was a BS warning by the LEO, predicated on insurance issues in the region.

We darn sure (still) have plenty of those issues here in AZ. All ya haveta do is listed to the scanner. At least once, you'll hear "insurance expiration of..." and some date in the past when a plate is run - presumably for a different (e.g. primary) violation.

Next time, I'll pay closer attention to see if a tow-truck gets dispatched on a situation like that.
 

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